Frage von Gavin:
Hello,
I am an absolute Beginners in the camcorder area.
After I regularly dive vacations for some underwater photography with my digicam did, I'm looking now very much for the filming underwater.
I read for about 2 weeks and cruising across this forum. So I have learned some basic concepts.
My rationale is, once I buy a used camcorder, for example, ¬ 300-400 on eBay. In order to practice a little more than water and find out whether I even like the film.
When I came up, I worried a complete UW gear and then I note that shooting is nothing for me, that would be a pity lost money.
When you read different forums of contributions it sometimes came so ago as if the old camcorder to the new part as equal or even superior SonyTRV-900, XM 1 (had me), but too expensive.
My question is: What camcorder for the last maybe five years have been particularly Outrageous? Especially in the field of image quality.
Perhaps even with a manual adjustment of white balance, shutter speed and aperture. Good Lowlightverhalten must not be quite sure.
If the name of good camcorder does not know it is very difficult to collect only by the search of the forum information.
If I make the film fun, I could imagine myself as the Panasonic GS-250 to buy one with Gun-Lux case or the Silverfish. Would that be a good choice?
About your help, I'd be very happy!
Greeting
Gavin
Antwort von michael_358:
Hi,
well, because you actually helping hands-on experience.
Working since 1999 with ner Pana NV DX 110th I would have to reliability
define the basis of a product name: see above.
About 500 hours recording head, thousands Cassettenumspulungen (yes, I do that really with the cam, one of my ideas of quality,
the coils, the cam can be synonymous).
Zero downtime, maintenance costs 120th - ¬. Operating Range: from -45 ° to +55 ° in Lapland in southern climes. No problems with ice, sand, sweat. Whether in a dogsled, snowmobile or off-road, 100% original batteries Funktion.Es working in intimate association with 5 nonames. The capacity is amazing 70-80%. Are synonymous, however, well-maintained.
The image quality is convinced myself lowlight still solala and the synonymous only with manual focus. The stability has more to tokenism. I'd always, always buy the 2.Hand Prices are, however, still pepper.
Gruß Jörg
Antwort von Jan:
Hello Gavin,
favorable would be the SonyHC 90 (Or for less money, the HC 42 with the same enclosure) with Original Underwater Housing SPK HCA together about 800 ¬ Internet price.
Unfortunately, it's all for 5m (I do not gehts for snorkeling or scuba diving right?), And less control Sonyhat eg no shutter speeds - not a pretty Scharfstellring like GS 250, Aperture or manual white balance, however, already.
Well once again just to gehts s.end's Money, which wants to spend it.
The underwater housing, the GS 250 is certainly not synonymous, or just cheap?
My uncle is a passionate diver in the club and I think have a housing
Of Subal or Sealux with SonyVX 2000 (He is familiar with video technology but not particularly out ...). Then easily go away for a few thousand.
Sealux
Subal LG
January
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
- This, I call it mal plastic bags for the cams for underwater, are cheap, but when you dive right then triggers the pressure synonymous keys s.der Camera. Touch-screen cameras are eliminated, logical.
- Correct pressure housing, as of Subal, allow access to almost all Kamerafuntionen. For this they easily cost as much as we like synonymous of the EIA of the camera - and they usually synonymous synonymous fit only for a camera.
- Under water it is fast and very dark, it lacks the full Lichtspektum. So synonymous s.Licht and / or think of Filters and / or ability of the Low Light Camera
The SonyVX2000/2100 plus Subal housing team with light then it is approximately 6000 ¬
Anything else from the Platik Bags: A grain of sand in the shutter and the camera drinking.
Antwort von jens:
I give thee, wheat absolutely right. The only question is what Gavin does now ;-)
My rationale is, once I buy a used camcorder, for example, ¬ 300-400 on eBay. In order to practice a little more than water and find out whether I even like the film.
When I came up, I worried a complete UW gear and then I note that shooting is nothing for me, that would be a pity lost money.
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
Buy a cheap na Cam afloat enddecken about his passion for film.
Antwort von Lothar1:
Plastic bags for cheaper: I had something synonymous, and I thought about to emerge: a water droplet inside? It was the last air bubble ....
So in Zukunt no more plastic bags!
Gruss
Lothar
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
this is clearly not a pro, the HC 90 with housing purchases.
It went about filming until some time properly, without paying much.
This is the same as with tripods. Of course, taking a customer for a consumer camera not a high-quality professional Sachtler 500 ¬ for ¬ 1000. The synonymous with the professional must be clear.
Gavin or lend you a device, if you want to buy a 800 ¬ Camera + Housing to the sample.
LG
January
Antwort von Gavin:
Hello,
And thanks schonmal for the many replies.
So if the filming something for me (is what I could well imagine), I would of course get me a fixed camera housing. I would finally like to have pretty deep down.
In a lighting system, I would do without erstmal. My dive partner would be a Floadreflektor get into their strong hand lamp and lighting technician would have to play. We do this so often synonymous with photography.
I worked a few seasons on various dive centers and the videographer (the film the Beginners and sell CDs there) I have always said the most important in underwater films is the red filter. I would buy the synonymous to me. Panasonic NV-GS 250, case and accessories come safely to the 2200 ¬. It wants to be considered very good.
So now is a fit erstmal used her camera. Then I would have liked a few more tips that may be based on personal experience.
As the camera such as Gebrauchtpreise for TRV-900, DX-110, MX-300 are located outside of good and evil, I thought s.günstigere cameras.
Perhaps someone has experience with the example of Panasonic NV-DA1? She is probably getting built on the basis of the DX100 (with a chip) and even for 180 - 280 ¬ depending on the accessories on eBay.
Or perhaps do you know any other models.
Thank you!
Gavin
Antwort von Jan:
Hello Gavin,
the red filter to the massive "blue" is recommended to stitch.
One of your tip, the MX 300's I know well, it lies just below the SonyVX 2000 and Canon XM 2 approximate level of JVC GY DV 300 (She has superior video streaming benefits that are likely underwater but not much use)
It is grad on Ebay have been favorable:
MX 300
Sie hat 2001 ca 3000 DM gekostet and wurde damals stark bewertet.
Wenn die Camera etwas grösser sein kann and ein Tauchgehäuse gefunden wird, ist die hier angegebene Profi Panasonic AJ-D 410 ( ich glaube sie kam 2000 so um die 10000 DM) bestimmt synonymous keine schlechte Wahl wenn der price nicht die letzten 6 tage noch extrem in die Height geht, obwohl es eigentlich keine Camera für Unterwasser ist..
Panasonic DVC PRO AJ D 410 MX 300
Sie hat 2001 ca 3000 DM gekostet and wurde damals stark bewertet.
Wenn die Camera etwas grösser sein kann and ein Tauchgehäuse gefunden wird, ist die hier angegebene Profi Panasonic AJ-D 410 ( ich glaube sie kam 2000 so um die 10000 DM) bestimmt synonymous keine schlechte Wahl wenn der price nicht die letzten 6 tage noch extrem in die Height geht, obwohl es eigentlich keine Camera für Unterwasser ist..
Or the cheap Panasonic AG EZ 35 of 2000th They were used in various small local reporters then. I have found on Ebay but no.
LG
January
