Frage von Disli:
Hello
I want to buy like a camcorder and do not know quite what. I have chosen two times that of the description does not look bad:
1. PANASONIC VDR-D250 (DVD)
2. SONY DCR-SR60E (HD)
Unfortunately I have absolutely no idea of the whole. What makes the videos better (picture quality)? The Panasonic has 3 CCD (800,000) and the Sonyhat a CCD (1Megapix.).
What can you recommend me?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Gruss
Disli
Antwort von StefanS:
I recommend that none of the two models to buy. Instead, buy a model with MiniDV in this price class.
Please visit here in the forum after the approximately 100 other similar threads in the last few weeks. They are synonymous easy to find :-)
There, among other things in it, why the recommendation is.
However, you move with 500 - 700 Teuronen already above the price range that most demands caused here. However, greatly simplified, look you in the area MiniDV Panasonic s.der to 280er.
Greeting
Stefan
Antwort von Disli:
Thank you for your answer first. Various contributions have already be trimmed and am still synonymous.
Actually I do not want the MiniDV system that is so Mühsam (takes time) to the movies on the PC to bring.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Actually I do not want the MiniDV system that is so Mühsam (takes time) to the movies on the PC to bring. I can understand, but: Either you want to seriously cut - then leads to DV is no alternative. Or you're holiday and family movies - then get yourself a DVD model and forget the PC and cut ...
Antwort von Disli:
I'm more of a holiday and family films. I will not synonymous big cut and bring inside effects. Maybe times a "bad" part and cut out some text into the film and get ready. More because I will not do.
But what is now a better picture? 3 CCD (800,000) or 1 CCD (1Megapix.).
Antwort von StefanS:
The time available to you in the transfer MiniDV to invest Calculator (60 minutes tape = 60 minutes plus anstöpseln and and and), you save at the other formats do not, but give them s.anderer restore point!
In the DVD, for example, either you play each of the Camera, or order them from the DVD player to play, because if it detects you have it only once in the Camera "finalize", a process that just cost a lot of time can.
If you then have a look at something "rausschneiden", or something of the love Omi together, then at least you want, but to MiniDV grabbed it. Mpeg cut now ought reasonably possible, but he is still holding full (time consuming) pitfalls.
Finally: You have to live with your purchase. Good luck
Greeting
Stefan
Antwort von StefanS:
But what is now a better picture? 3 CCD (800,000) or 1 CCD (1Megapix.). Oh yeah, I forgot the Megagigahyperpixelmania.
The specification of PAL to DVD, MiniDV and hard drive is:
720 x 576 pixels = 414720 pixels, no more!
The remaining pixels in the cameras are designed to protect against and shake the so-called photo function.
The principle is "3 CCD, 800,000 pixel" better, although it was some single CCD has a budget of 3 Chipper which has made life difficult. But this is not due to the Megagigahyperpixelmania.
And if your car had 2000 hp, you're with your driving skills so that opportunities are not faster than Schumi with only 800 hp!
Greeting
Stefan
Antwort von Wiro:
But what is now a better picture? 3 CCD (800,000) or 1 CCD (1Megapix.) To complement this, a thread, which is around the same theme was:
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=109344
My pers Recommendation:
Take the 3-Chipper.
Gruss Wiro
Antwort von Jan:
SR 60? That is the U.S. 70 or SR?
We have the SR 30,50,70 or 90, but the 50 specialist business of Sony and Germany will not s.Grossketten next.
The SW is where either by pressing a button can be fired immediately (One Touch DVD Burning) or with the included program is a simple scene separation is possible. But be careful with all SR models can be created in a playlist or individual chapters are to be deleted, but the cutting / separation in the Camera is not possible.
The Pana VDR-250 has the greatest benefits if you have a DVD Players & Recorders searched the DVD RAM plays. One would like you could with the DVD Ram supplied with the program make a simple cut and finalize (finish) - which sometimes can take several minutes - at the Ram is not possible and necessary - very good.
If you are in the Pana DVD - RW uses the RAM you go some features synonymous with the cloth. Some computers have drives synonymous nor a DVD RAM problem - at least the cheap & Elder.
Depending on your preferences:
MiniDV Pana GS 280 / 300, SonyHC 94 / 96
DVD SonyDVD 405 / 505, Pana VDR 250 / 300
HDD JVC MG 505, SonySR 70 & 90
VG
Jan
Antwort von Disli:
SR 60? That is the U.S. 70 or SR?
We have the SR 30,50,70 or 90, but the 50 specialist business of Sony and Germany will not s.Grossketten next.
Here in Switzerland there are:
SONY DCR-SR100 30GB hard drive, USB 2.0
starting from 1'174 .70
SONY DCR-SR30E 30GB hard drive, 0.8 megapixel CCD, 20x optical zoom 800x digital zoom, 2.5 "color display, USB 2.0
ab 744.00
SONY DCR-SR50E 30GB hard drive, 1.0 megapixel CCD, 16:9 mode, 12x optical zoom 800x digital zoom, 2.7 "color display, USB 2.0
ab 859.00
SONY DCR-SR60E 30GB hard drive, 1.0 megapixel CCD, 16:9 mode, 12x optical zoom, 800x digital zoom, 2.7 "color display, USB
ab 798.90
SONY DCR-SR70E 60GB hard drive, 1.07-megapixel CCD, 16:9 mode, 12x optical zoom, 800x digital zoom, 2.7 "color display, USB 2.0
starting from 1'025 .00
SONY DCR-SR80E 60GB hard drive, 1.0 megapixel CCD, 16:9 mode, 12x optical zoom, 800x digital zoom, 2.7 "color display, USB 2.0
ab 998.70
SONY DCR-SR90E 30GB HDD, 3.3 megapixel CCD, 16:9 mode, 2.7 "color display, USB
starting from 1'190 .70
SONY HDR-UX1 4.0 megapixel CCD, a DVD camcorder, 16:9 mode, 10x optical zoom, 80x digital zoom, 3.5 "color display, HDMI, USB 2.0
starting from 1'638 .50
Antwort von Jan:
Sorry, was not meant bös s.die Swiss, here (where I live) are the SR 60 / 80 / 100 at least in the normal business is not available.
Although SR 60.70, and 80 is very similar, maybe Sony should know Switzerland.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Mato:
In general, I find it very nice that a Slashcam Dependence of specialist vendors has become, which is already in the lunatic asylum, or are frustrated at the South Sea Islands as dropouts have withdrawn.
Where are the good patient of premium specialty consultants? There are no more .......... heul
But there are still, in Slashcam Forum
Antwort von Jan:
I can tell you they were never in Slashcam or in another forum. Just as is true with the professionals of the upper price range.
I think I go into the consumer issues usually have much next as the average, with the exception of times here. The majority of the seller simply has little time or wants to be the time when the forums do not take every day because even 8 h gefachsimpelt is in the company. If you have guests such as the last time, then jumps to one or other "helpers" fast buck s.and has no more knowledge to offer for free by clicking here and then insulted them.
The real professionals - the camera men are quite successful in the job are driving them only very few of the forums around, no preference as it is, there are usually ambitious, or user services with volunteers at the stations - Exceptions times excluded. During my last rotation (as a helper better) hab ich mal professionals (editors, lighting or camera men) asked her knows any video forums and participate you there?
The Austrians and Germans have said - sorry no time and desire - no preference whom I asked.
So looks like ...
VG
Jan
Antwort von Disli:
I have now the SONY DCR-SR60E bought and am very happy with it. S.alle Thanks again for your advice.
