Frage von paradise13:
Had a MiniDV camcorder SonyTRV 30 with which I am the movies on the computer playing, handle (Magix), back to the camcorder and then played on the television was viewed.
Super quality!
Last year I broke my mini DV camcorder (Panasonic) to which I can not play back purchased. After editing, I burn them with the highest encoder settings on a DVD. But I must say the quality I am not convinced. You simply can not keep up with the former quality.
What camcorder would you recommend if your optimum quality after editing on the computer would have.
My Handel says, comes just a MiniDV camcorder in question.
The Manufacturer says MiniDV dies out.
What to do?
Thanks for your help!
Antwort von der henne:
So, before whom thou hast only for "normal" DVDs to film, so with HD, it is a good MiniDV camcorder s.besten with 3CCDs still the best: good quality, simple processing (editing), sophisticated system , cheap consumables (tapes).
I would recommend Panasonic GS320/330 with a Raynox wide angle converter and sufficient lighting. If you want HD (today or maybe in the future), then Canon HV20/30.
Antwort von paradise13:
So, before whom thou hast only for "normal" DVDs to film, so with HD, it is a good MiniDV camcorder s.besten with 3CCDs still the best: good quality, simple processing (editing), sophisticated system , cheap consumables (tapes).
I would recommend Panasonic GS320/330 with a Raynox wide angle converter and sufficient lighting. If you want HD (today or maybe in the future), then Canon HV20/30. So HD it should be now. But how do you see the future of the MiniDV system?
And s.wichtigsten: It will not stop its normal Dvd's because their quality is far enough for me not. I would like to have the best quality on my plasma.
Antwort von der henne:
So, as with the future of the MiniDV system looks like, I can not tell you because I do not look to the future can :-). But there are so many DV devices in circulation, that it is synonymous in 5 years or tapes to buy will give way today for VHS. I know not exactly what you want on film, but if you focus on the best small price with the best workability, then the only HDV, like the Canon HV30. If you then have a Bluray burner treat, then can the movies on your plasma enjoy. The Cam is obviously synonymous with HDMI directly connect s.den Television.
Antwort von jazzy_d:
tapes, it will still give a very long time. New devices based on miniDV recording rather not.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Paradise13
Experiment once the real resolution of your plasma to get out and then you choose a system or a format, the "native", ie without interpolation points can be displayed. So you reach the maximum quality.
Do not Of the "FullHD" promise fade. Most devices that are currently s.Consumermarkt are not of the "FullHD" forecast resolution.
And each interpolation quality cost much .... So look carefully before you buy.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Experiment once the real resolution of your plasma to get out and then you choose a system or a format, the "native", ie without interpolation points can be displayed. Sounds clever, but it is not. The mass of living rooms in the plasma is below 1024 x 768 or 1080 x 1080 pixels. Both are far away of the available high-definition camcorder formats, so (rarely) 1280 x 720, 1440 x 1080 or 1920 x 1080th
A resolution for the TV-Matching camcorder is probably not available - but it is synonymous solder. If the electronics in the TV are not quite creepy, is the Runterskalieren no problem - branded devices you can see the advantage of HD yet. And soon expected except for cheap rod messengers or small screen diagonal synonymous only FullHD panel offered - then there are already 1440 x 1080 or 1920 x 1080 is ideal.
Most devices that are currently s.Consumermarkt are not of the "FullHD" forecast resolution. Mr. Wunderlich: How often for as yet? A unit that is advertised with FullHD, has a panel with 1920 x 1080 pixels. That alone guarantees still not a good picture - but without the Resolutionist But if and available.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
tapes, it will still give a very long time. New devices based on miniDV recording rather not. Aha s.was or how do you do that fixed?
Because now the first memory models on the market?
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The raw material can be synonymous as AVI unkompremiertes material on a DVD burn.
The play of your camcorder is probably not drum head gently.
Whether you need BluRay, it must be so times in the space provide.
And of course HD material looks better than s.Plasma SD, fairly or logically?
I knew not why Memory of MiniDV here should be replaced in the next 3 years.
Antwort von Nachtmensch:
Hello DeKid B.,
I knew not why Memory of MiniDV here should be replaced in the next 3 years. I already know why:
Because the DV 13GB/Stunde to synonymous SDHC cards could save. The prices just so jumbled. And then you could without the mechanics are not only vulnerable but sequential file-access, that would be something.
For the archive then you need something other than the Camera misbrauchen.
Easy, right?
Lars
Antwort von Daigoro:
sensitive mechanism Ermm .. Here we have ne Canon MV100 Built in 2000 in uncomplainingly use.
If the 'vulnerable Mechanics' is, I would have liked more of it.
Antwort von Nachtmensch:
Of course there is always synonymous good equipment. But moving parts are potentially more vulnerable than electrically connected. It depends much synonymous user s.bzw. his care.
Then it could possibly increase the power of this mechanism to serve as an argument? Battery life may indeed play a role.
Regards
Lars
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Lars Gude
Yes You might sometimes be right now ..... as synonymous all major laptop manufacturer to memory modules will be set as some already do but I think the MiniDV tape will be even longer.
Nor is the "Back Up" s "on tape is still a relatively safe thing ..... whether a memory card here will replace the tape, I doubt times.
I mentioned already trying the Sony Maybe time a BluRay disc mini invent should be a medium, I would be more opportunities than a memory admit.
(See Monday MiniDisk drives or more generally, in comparison to DAT Streamer - durability, handling, etc)
I own both Syysteme and can recommend the Monday DAT drives and discs were not really enforced. (Storage capacity)
Denoch provides access MO faster than DAT.
Since I synonymous in photography at DIA / roll film set, but synonymous Digital cameras have now I can not really in the video production of the memory card or provide the breakthrough this as fact in the space provide.
While it is on memory leak there but for the next 3 years will clearly dominate the tapes, I am convinced.
An ordinary consumer can not umbedingt the memory card is recommended.
Occasionally it may be so approved, the fellow in the HDD / DVD / memory cards provide an advantage, but the codec jungle and post tapes are probably not the time to topen.
The question is therefore only when you really should find another medium could store more data to the tape then the Rank of change. (CD vs. MC)
I do not want to be misunderstood, I find synonymous memory technology interesting, but I do not want to test the rabbit industry.
(Also, I can not understand when you play a DVD created correctly, that serious differences of raw material to talk, it would be so disastrous as many films which is then available on DVD - synonymous when you consider the s KaufDVD often more capacity than a 4.7 GB blank. But times have each of the DVD Shrink disc compared with the original, which probably should be no difference.
"Can of course, because I wear glasses to me just so happens" The difference vs. tube. Plasma is already a new chapter)
Thus the tape so you remain faithful.
Although vs HF100. HV30 with an exciting theme and propagated by the customer should purchase a camcorder chen synonymous pushes forward the development.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Daigoro:
Thus the tape so you remain faithful.
Although vs HF100. HV30 with an exciting theme and propagated by the customer should purchase a camcorder chen synonymous pushes forward the development.
Actually a sad subject - many missed opportunities.
Klammer yes I am not nostalgic for MiniDV fixed, but think critically at just too many inconsistencies in the nice new HD world, but my Umsteigewillen powerful brakes.
Schade eigentlich.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Well over the next 3 years, because something shows.
But as long as the Canon XL series is not completely set to memory card you should assume that even the manufacturer has not yet become united.
And only by test customers to get to new ideas, but I would like to None of these customers, I have enough money left.
The HD jungle synonymous but is a thicket which still must find its standard, which is actually based on SD no more, but then gabs synonymous accordingly wait what time brings.
The thread starter but I would like to recommend that tape and find the lens diameter chip size and interlaced / deinterlaced s.der lot of quality here, so what should be considered. New technology does not ever really get better.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Nachtmensch:
Well over the next 3 years, because something shows.
But as long as the Canon XL series is not completely set to memory card you should assume that even the manufacturer has not yet become united.
And only by test customers to get to new ideas, but I would like to None of these customers, I have enough money left.
The HD jungle synonymous but is a thicket which still must find its standard, which is actually based on SD no more, but then gabs synonymous accordingly wait what time brings.
The thread starter but I would like to recommend that tape and find the lens diameter chip size and interlaced / deinterlaced s.der lot of quality here, so what should be considered. New technology does not ever really get better.
MfG
B. DeKid Thank you for your Council!
Another question.
If I use the material on the computer did, and then edit on a media store, is there ever an alternative to the DV media (considering quality). For example, the DVD is so compressed.
Is there a possibility of a DVD in such a way (special encoder, etc.) the quality of the band has a DV (when watching on a plasma)? Ich finds halt practical films of my family to be regarded as a DVD of mini-DV.
Thanks for your answers!
Antwort von beiti:
is there ever an alternative to the DV media (considering quality). For example, the DVD is so compressed. DV is compressed synonymous (only not so strong).
Is there a possibility of a DVD in such a way (special encoder, etc.) the quality of the band has a DV (when watching on a plasma)? Ich finds halt practical films of my family to be regarded as a DVD of mini-DV. If you're with a maximum data rate (8 Mbps) and a good encoder in maximum quality setting work, you'll see on the synonymous plasma no difference.
The big advantage of DV quality is mainly for the cut of importance, because the Picture of DV based cut better and better edit it. If the movie is finished, you can live well with DVD.
In many cases, the Picture of DVD even better, a modern DVD player because it in RGB signal, or even digital television via HDMI s.den go further, while DV camcorder best a Y / C signal.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Actually there is no possibility of the tape comes near.
The raw material can be gesplitet course (1 hr = 4 DVDs to 4.7 GB) There are synonymous AVI to DVD Player support (mostly as a Divx / Xvid).
There are also standalone DV player but more likely to cut than to play.
There will be several tests of the Kompremierung to give the best results s.deinem plasma to find. Then it can run almost out. Perhaps some day you would like to mention that the plasma may be some freaks here you specific tips for creating a DVD of this, it should eventually help.
Alla MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Nachtmensch:
Good evening DeKid B.,
Since I synonymous in photography at DIA / roll film set, but synonymous Digital cameras have now I can not really in the video production of the memory card or provide the breakthrough this as fact in the space provide. are other reasons but now that digital photography has not yet been competing with the analogues can.
The storage media is not the problem, the sensors are simply not good enough. (Contrast, color ...)
I find synonymous shame that often the recording medium with the compression algorithm and / or the data so mixed.
But if the people still TV (if synonymous plasma or LCD or whatever) well enough and is important, plays tape or not really does not matter.
Regards
Lars
Antwort von Jan:
That is so beautiful that the users (especially of Slashcam) their MiniDV tapes into the sky to praise - probably because for many years good experience with the old Magnteband made. Filme yes I almost exclusively synonymous with the DVCAM and DV formats.
But you can not defend you anyway, when the industry is the deal - DV is dead The s.Kostensparensten make what is and what the masses want. Even Canon will focus on Flash Memory, Panasonic has the DV tape for a high-resolution camcorder eh & illogical as a technological step backward view.
An employee of a leading video company said to me "We can be a flash memory part 1 / 4 to 1 / 3 of the production cost savings." Even the dreaded Manufacturer for repair (warranty) are characterized by the absence of a disk drive with moving parts, very reduced.
VG
Jan
Antwort von B.DeKid:
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But if the people still TV (if synonymous plasma or LCD or whatever) well enough and is important, plays tape or not really does not matter.
Regards
Lars Hi Lars
The sentence I do not really understand what it is ..... better as a TV device? Laser projectors?
As my test you do that now?
For digital photos vs. Digital video - yes there are some differences, I agree to
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@ Jan
Well as I said memory card will come someday - but you should now have the private user's friend I do not know if this is not exaggerated.
Your hint with the DVD is already Compossing rather what ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von beiti:
I find synonymous shame that often the recording medium with the compression algorithm and / or the data so mixed. Exactly. I bet that the majority of the tape-fans here in the forum a long hard drive or memory card would prefer - if you do not cut the less joyful Compression format would get (MPEG2 in SD area, MPEG4 in HD range).
The argument of cheap storage on DV tape is in practice rather trivial, this would soon find a replacement.
Antwort von paradise13:
Actually there is no possibility of the tape comes near.
The raw material can be gesplitet course (1 hr = 4 DVDs to 4.7 GB) There are synonymous AVI to DVD Player support (mostly as a Divx / Xvid).
There are also standalone DV player but more likely to cut than to play.
There will be several tests of the Kompremierung to give the best results s.deinem plasma to find. Then it can run almost out. Perhaps some day you would like to mention that the plasma may be some freaks here you specific tips for creating a DVD of this, it should eventually help.
Alla MfG
B. DeKid Good morning!
My plasma is now just over 5 years old (Philipps 9965). So do not let HD Full HD.
But please do not have the old thing mosern, yes you know what that thing 5 years ago has cost.
Would a top product (as today) solve my problem?
So the same DVD-quality mini-DV quality?
Or would the problem with the DVD Compression remain?
Perhaps someone has a hint for the currently best encoder?
Apologies my many questions.
But I would only ... processed material in the best quality watch.
Antwort von beiti:
How well or poorly in the plasma, I can not say. But that should actually be independent of the source image, ie if you have your camcorder get much better quality than DVD player, then what is not true (either with the encoder, or with the link between DVD Player and Television).
s.Encoder: With the highest data rate and 2-pass encoding should be no current encoder really bad. If, however, significantly more than 1 hour to squeeze a DVD and this must reduce the data, separates the wheat from the chaff. I myself use the
ProCoder Express
Antwort von paradise13:
How well or poorly in the plasma, I can not say. But that should actually be independent of the source image, ie if you have your camcorder get much better quality than DVD player, then what is not true (either with the encoder, or with the link between DVD Player and Television).
s.Encoder: With the highest data rate and 2-pass encoding should be no current encoder really bad. If, however, significantly more than 1 hour to squeeze a DVD and this must reduce the data, separates the wheat from the chaff. I myself use the ProCoder Express and am very satisfied. Eventually, I would now synonymous the significantly faster
Antwort von beiti:
Movie DVD's look fantastic on my plasma from. Perfect.
My DVD's are not compressed!
On connection, it should not lie. With what software you previously encodierst your DVDs?
Antwort von paradise13:
Movie DVD's look fantastic on my plasma from. Perfect.
My DVD's are not compressed!
On connection, it should not lie. With what software you previously encodierst your DVDs?
Magix Video Deluxe
Antwort von beiti:
Have you or any other software with which you could try it alternatively?
Oh yes, I had almost forgotten how to see the same pictures from when you get it directly from the camcorder to play?
Antwort von paradise13:
Have you or any other software with which you could try it alternatively?
Oh yes, I had almost forgotten how to see the same pictures from when you get it directly from the camcorder to play?
From the camcorder perfectly!
Antwort von Daigoro:
An employee of a leading video company said to me "We can be a flash memory part 1 / 4 to 1 / 3 of the production cost savings." Even the dreaded Manufacturer for repair (warranty) are characterized by the absence of a disk drive with moving parts, very reduced.
Dafuer land then all support requests in the forums so here because the user no simple 'end to end' solutions will not be for weeks with the matter more deeply.
Which SD cards go for? How do I get the films in the calculator? What editing program can be over because all my codec? Is my calculator or notebook? How do I get on the Television? How I then archived s.besten?
Questions about issues that the industry does not answer .. wants?
Are synonymous, of course, no questions, which the ignorant "I want to film the" customer is immediately.
Antwort von beiti:
From the camcorder perfectly! Then it really seems s.Encoder (or setting) to lie. I remember dark, that here in the forum once the optimal settings for the Magix Encoder were discussed. Maybe you can help the search.
Otherwise, you still trying with the other encoders. "FreeEnc" there is free, "TMPEGEnc" at least a 30-day Trial. From the quick "CEE Basic" there is also a trial, however, is purely a watermark (for testing but the quality is sufficient).
However, the work with external encoders by far not as comfortable as the DVD-export editing program. You must first complete the film from the editing program to export, it can (and must) in the encoder adjust many details, and come back only "Elementary Streams" raus (per 1 file for video and audio), which you can then in an authoring program to DVD processing (eg for IfoEdit menülose DVDs, or GUI_for_DVDauthor).
Antwort von Jan:
An employee of a leading video company said to me "We can be a flash memory part 1 / 4 to 1 / 3 of the production cost savings." Even the dreaded Manufacturer for repair (warranty) are characterized by the absence of a disk drive with moving parts, very reduced.
Dafuer land then all support requests in the forums so here because the user no simple 'end to end' solutions will not be for weeks with the matter more deeply.
Which SD cards go for? How do I get the films in the calculator? What editing program can be over because all my codec? Is my calculator or notebook? How do I get on the Television? How I then archived s.besten?
Questions about issues that the industry does not answer .. wants?
Are synonymous, of course, no questions, which the ignorant "I want to film the" customer is immediately.
Well since you are guilty of something - what the true recovery or the problem is - it is necessary to slow computer and with swabs are not always constant editing programs.
HD flash camcorders have always been an AV or component cables for the TV s.Bord a simple interface software for the PC is synonymous here. AVC is now almost 100 ¬ each program.
And Wolfgang said, of HDV (ie cassettes, cameras) to create a HD disc is often richer than the same loss with AVC (such as flash memory cameras) to work and the format to leave.
Reading goes faster than with DV, just a 5 ¬ expensive card reader / recorder to buy and wait a few minutes until the MTS files on the calculator are.
Memory cards? Simple Memory Stick Pro Duo or SDHC card to buy your choice - for many filmmakers, it will be expensive, but maybe in an emergency is the laptop in the vicinity, or a cache of Jobo zb.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Daigoro:
Well since you are guilty of something
Maybe. But I put the current DV comfort (yes .. has lasted as synonymous to come) as the scale (3 s:), of which HD is still somewhat far away.
- The recovery was still true the problem is - it is necessary to slow computer and with swabs are not always constant editing programs.
Yes, and hold still.
Do not understand how technology such as Camera in a vacuum is developed.
After a year should at least cut the programs' constant 'with the formats you can work around. And if the computer is not fast enough - one of the advantages of h.264 should it be that the material is simpler thanks to operations in less expensive hardware is giessen.
Additional hardware for real-time en-and decoding should be more feasible in the area of his.
And then there is still the case with the filing ...
How was the synonymous - the caravan moves and when the next time everything runs smoothly, the industry synonymous in my circle of HD filmmakers welcome.
