Frage von gh:
Hello
I want to buy a new camera and am not sure about the format.
Mini-DV or
Mini-DVD and DVD-RAM
are Choice.
At two electronics stores, the seller had, of course, two different opinions.
One says the DVD is not penetrated and the other says it's definitely easier to manage and edit them.
I opted for the brand (Panasonic), or is the wrong?
Either the NV-GS280EG-S or SDR-D250EG-S or S-VDR D300EG
At present, an S-VHS is still available. Unfortunately, this camera lately their mistakes. Therefore, an initial purchase.
The later film was and will always be processed. Cut-and-effect software for videos is synonymous not yet available.
Maybe someone has a proposal which camera might make more sense.
Many thanks in advance and a nice holiday wishes
GUDRUN
Antwort von kerberos:
facing the same decision I faced a couple of months.
At first I had thought synonymous s.einen DVD camcorder.
Here we have noted, however, that the camera starts already in MPEG, the data is so compressed.
The loss of quality, although not necessarily visible, but if you just need to work later the material, it is somewhat more complex.
We finally decided on a DV device and leave it in the same extensive testing. Overall, he created more than 7 hours in excellent quality.
The handling with the tapes seems to me easier than with the DV-blanks that you have (if synonymous unprotected) for a short time in the hand.
Achso, we bought the Panasonic NV-GS 140th
Antwort von Kiara Borini:
Panasonic is certainly not a bad address for an entry-level camcorder. In particular, the models with 3 recording sensors that red prisms on each, green and blue aufnemhen on separate chips are the usual sensors, superior to that calculated on a Farbosaik.
If you invest it so much, is that the optical image stabilization and no more electronical, you have certainly a good Kamra.
The best quality provides the DV format. The format of the DVD (MPEG2) is then subject to loss and suffering in the next section and possible future changes in the lighting / contrast / color adjustment.
DVD cameras, I do not believe. They suggest that one can shoot without editing and in sequential order. Thus film but nleider / fortunately, does not work. The sequence of looking is never the recording. And important scenes are always repeated. From Sound to say nothing.
So, if the tape is too inconvenient, then I tend to prefer the camcorder, the place prefers to DVD on hard drive, or take better flash memory. This goes silent, because there are no moving parts in Kamra. The Fomat is identical to the DVD and again as the images of a digicam copies cut on the PC, and then! burned to DVD.
The slightly faster than the capturing of the tape to the hard drive (with DV - video), however, with slightly reduced quality.
If so, it still should be, I think, is the Panasonic SDR-S100 a Chicken, part of your pocket.
Antwort von kerberos:
For camcorders hard disks should be synonymous, but note the limited capacity.
For a longer vacation, it can quickly narrow.
We have 2 1 / 2 weeks holiday created 7 hours video, this amount of data would fit in any hard disks camcorder.
Antwort von Kiara Borini:
Maybe, but I see the advantage of the hard drive, even better, the flash memory, is that it can be deleted before the city - about s.Abend the scenes that are not fit for the rough cut, targeted again and add if necessary. We must then sift synonymous not all garbage difficulty after the holiday.
How do you do that even with the digital images ultimately synonymous. Selbt And BTW, if we happen 2 Gig flash memory is still an awful lot, then we will find in the latest two years on the dozens available. Until then, it will help the next tank with built-in hard drive.
Camcorders with built-in hard drive, however, I rather think not as suitable as those with removable storage medium ...
Antwort von kerberos:
But still the problem remains that one has already been compressed material.
If you are capturing uncompressed it, you will not get very far with 2 gig.
And frankly, it was really fun to look at our entire Urlaubs' junk 'at home again.
Alternatively, one can avoid engaging in trash ;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
Uncompressed video but there is not here. DV itself is grossly compressed. Native would be about 22 MB / s. This would for 90 seconds at full 2 GB.
Antwort von kerberos:
Good, I should be more specific.
When a DV tape 60 minutes produced about 13 GB of data. This would be in the 2 GB of storage medium after a good 9 minutes s.end of the medium.
Whether there are now 90 seconds or 9 minutes, at least I can see at present no practical and inexpensive handling as it still offers a DV tape.
Antwort von Markus:
At two electronics stores, the seller had, of course, two different opinions.
One says the DVD is not penetrated and the other says it's definitely easier to manage and edit them. Hi Gudrun,
that other vendors either had no idea of DVD camcorders, or there is now an ultimate video editing software, of here, nobody knows anything.
Related topic:
Search DV camcorder suitable for me (500 ¬ ± 100 ¬)
Antwort von Modehilli:
And frankly, it was really fun to look at our entire Urlaubs' junk 'at home again. Good, all that remains uncontaminated! Well, if it's fun.
With me is a hobby now become quite a job, in which not only joy arises when people who have gone through my picture, others who have chatted to me in the O-Sound, and other annoying contemporaries still synonymous with capturing one twice the time to rob.
So far as relating to "junk". Who can turn without such a result is a garbage, perhaps one of the lucky few who can cut in a professional team significantly the costs. I can not, and it looks like I will learn it is no longer synonymous.
Following the three takes but I know usually still pretty good idea of what I s.besten Geung subjective. If I then delete the worst of the two and only two possibly eligible annuls, then I've won Some s.Zeit. That is why I stand the idea of video on the file system therefore faced fundamentally positive. However, I think DVD is the wrong approach, Fixed, hard drive for less than optimal, and to prefer the flash memory, synonymous with the knowledge that it takes enormous time in kurer yields in the price.
How, and why I continue to record to DV tape: Because I am the quality yet classed as better. With me the video quality of the Panasonic SDR-S100 can even fluctuate. The Photo mode mcih has not quite convinced, however.
But if all these arguments are open to exchange, then one can not deny these cameras, their raison d'etre: soundless, lowest volume, minimal weight, long battery life, it is next to the poorer quality so synonymous positive approaches.
And is easily as beautiful as the DV world once was, indeed, it has long ceased: HDV just pushes into the market with two modes, and usually does s.den progressive future! Output devices over. This HDTV is really not the last word for each dorm.
MPEG4 and Flash pushing beyond the realm Mobile Phone / PDA / blogs with mighty steps in this media world, whether we like it or not DV-lovers. The cement DigiCams MJPEG. But all are united in one. 25 frames wants None so right!
If we do not here have a little more tolerance towards a class of devices, which holds at least s.unsere PAL standards? At least when it is said that DV tendeniell provides the better material. The user should be free to decide s.Qualität between a maximum and a fundamentally faster data handling.
Antwort von kerberos:
Of course I'm tolerant of everyone is to the video format (which is here rather the type of recording is used), which he would like to.
But when I now see that for memory cards, DVDs and hard disks still outweigh the disadvantages, I prefer to stay with the DV-tape.
But each to his taste.
