Frage von Magnus:
I am looking for a while already Camera combines the following, and this wish is determined not only on my note:
- Recordings on hard disk or SD Card
- External microphone input available
- DV - Video - In and Out
- Webcam function in full resolution via FireWire or USB
- All automatic setting synonymous manual adjustable
and in the consumer segment to 1000 ¬.
The image features of modern cameras are so good that it comes to the actual characteristics of a camera no longer is. It is only on the equipment.
I say the first producers of such a gigantic business camcorder ahead. Or was I wrong?
Or someone knows an unaddressed device that is at least nearly as rankommt?
I read a lot in this forum, but never posted, so please for a little bit nice to me, if you bored with the Post.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
The ideal egg-radical-Wollmilchsau-digital-4 :4:4-camcorder will never give, as the manufacturer so that his business would break even. So it may inform the customers of each year suggest that he would be a new camera, because the new model has finally Mic-in and manual focus, which is not old, but analog-In ... etc. Each generation brings new camera some small piece of news and to see what else is gone.
The camcorder Manufacturer-determine and control the market, not the consumers.
Technically there should be no problem, all the features desired in a camera to accommodate, and the synonymous still halfway good. Some cameras come with the already quite close. However, the cost then synonymous> 4000 ¬.
And ultimately, the market for this camera Allesköner then synonymous rather small, probably because the mass but rather drauflosfilmt without a plan. And then it will halt its cheap! You need only look at the full purchase requests for advice here in the forum view. For the majority is at 400 ¬ already concluded!
Antwort von beiti:
The question is to what standard and Video Compression with which such a device would work. To 1 GB of memory fit just 4.5 minutes video in DV quality. A 2-GB SD would be approximately 9 minutes full. Is this practical?
With HDD it would be more conceivable, for example, a small 60-GB HDD for about 4 hours recording (though the holiday has become scarce, if you are not synonymous nor an extra plate to take outsourcing).
Not for nothing so far everything working HDD and Flash Card Camcorder with heavily compressed formats (eg MPEG 2), for an intense but not worth finishing.
Until further notice we are in the area of challenging Filmerei unfortunately on the DV tape dependent, because no other medium of a similar capacity at this price possible. In a few years may be different.
Functionally, there are a whole series of computer models that meet your requirements. With the 1000 Euro but it could just be.
Reliable, mature high technology to savings should not be expected.
Antwort von Wiro:
I say the first producers of such a gigantic business camcorder advance Write the producers just one after another s.and submit the proposal to them. Tell them exactly how to do it, and then lets you s.dem gigantic percentage of business involved. Then you'll synonymous way, very rich.
;-)
Gruss Wiro
Antwort von Cocoa_Magazin:
www.red.com I just say!
Antwort von AndyZZ:
www.red.com I just say! Halt not only for 1000 ¬ ....
Antwort von almosely:
Solder times I go so hard ... can not be:)
But AndyZZ has quite ... because no manufacturer would be with the I-can-all model even destroy the market.
And the success so they are fairly synonymous, there is someone new every day to buy a camera.
Furthermore, it would be so boring if a device could be anything ... even then I knew not where with my money:)
Antwort von Dongball:
Mist was not eingleoggt ...:)
Antwort von Magnus:
The approach with the soldering iron, find quite convincing.
Most models are slimmed-down anyway technically equipped for more than ultimately rauskommt. Vielleciht you should really own hands.
I thank you for the sympathy!
Antwort von Dongball:
Tell us about it but if you have the Non-Pros Ultra Model've done, I want to be synonymous one:)
Antwort von rtzbild:
www.red.com I just say! 17 K-$, nice machine ...
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Olli
Antwort von Cocoa_Magazin:
I disagree. Example from the photography. Who would have a Canon EOS 1Ds or 5D before 10 years possible. Both cameras are s.sich actually perfect and not verbesserbar (full-chip and really perfect Picture - had both).
I hope only one thing: just the images I with the Canon EOS 5D can record a film! Of course, not all pixels are read out, only the 2 million, which are needed for 1080p. This should technically zero problem. Only thing with the Viewfinder / mirror should also be solved differently (certainly not a problem synonymous).
The masses are too Objetive da! I have, for example, a Tamron 28-105 mm 2.8 consistently. Perfect for film.
Have with a 35mm adapter ordered and am curious how it works. Be informed.
Mipi
Antwort von Dongball:
I disagree. Example from the photography. Who would have a Canon EOS 1Ds or 5D before 10 years for possible That is true, but 10 years ago was synonymous technology you have not so far (or affordable) to something just as at times the market su chuck.
But as you can not expect, so we talk like this a perfect camera with the current state of things rauszubringen.
That we are about the smile in 10 years is clear.
And the manufacturer could certainly synonymous ... just want to not do it. But go as synonymous already the years before, with the pattern: "2 to Feature - 1 Feature away" before.
This is certainly not limited to any and everything, but for the most part.
Antwort von Wiro:
It is like the cars synonymous:
It can not be that hard, to build a car that is as fast as a Porsche, as comfortable as a Citroen (driving like God in France), as reliable as a Mazda, as quiet as a Rolls Royce, as safe as A diplomatic-Mercedes, and as light as a Fiat 500th And for 10 000 Euros.
This may yet again not so damn hard ...
;-)
Gruss Wiro
Antwort von Stefan:
...
- Recording on hard disk or SD Card
- External microphone input available
- DV - Video - In and Out
- Webcam function in full resolution via FireWire or USB
- All automatic setting synonymous manual adjustable
and in the consumer segment to 1000 ¬.
...
SD Card is IMHO not enough space on it. hard drive provides more space, but for price reasons, bad as the master and as a backup medium for chopped films in original version excuse. Technically would be hard for my Filmerei synonymous not go (too sensitive).
External microphone input. You mean to external, non-proprietary mic input ... for me to garnicht less important. But I see the need.
DV + DV-IN-OUT. Since biting is already the case with the space on the SD Card or the backup to hard drive. Why DV-IN on a hard drive? Good could be the latest DVD on the Camera and take a look on the train.
Webcam function via Firewire and / or USB is IMHO just a software issue. There are already solutions in this area. Often the camcorder manufacturers issued no software Fritzen and cover the area of software only through the purchase from. That could be a synonymous Dealers gewitzer do if the customer needs the feature.
Manual settings of all automatic functions. Well somewhere bite is synonymous since the dimension of Submikrocamcorder and number of necessary control elements could be an Intelligent ;-) Manufacturer Any proprietary jack for a remote control and provide a manual control module for advanced users offer. The question is, who's buying. Those that need manual rather not, because they use different cameras, I guess.
Good luck
The thick Stefan
Antwort von beiti:
I hope only one thing: just the images I with the Canon EOS 5D can record a film! The problem is the readout speed. It is obviously very difficult, so many chips that are at least 24 frames per second can read. (Would not it be so complicated, for example would Sonydas long, because the main point of criticism s.deren 24p cameras was always the small chip.)
Whether for film purposes, a chip in 24 x 36 mm at all would be useful is another question.
The best compromise may be chips, which are about as large as the current window film 35-mm film cameras (about 12 x 22 mm). Then you could synonymous continue existing film lenses.
In some years, such cameras in the professional sector (digital movies) to be quite widespread. But I doubt that they ever in the lower price range will be arriving. For the mass of the film are camcorders with small chips much better suited because they have a lower risk of sharpness and better automate.
Shooting with low depth of field requires very much effort for sharp points; AF in its conventional form is hardly in question.
Antwort von Wilma911:
Love Film community
'm new here and interested to read the contributions.
Have just one question on Magnus statement:
"Technically, would be hard for my Filmerei synonymous not go (too sensitive"
What is meant with sensitive?
We are looking for a CameraLink synonymous. This should provide very good sound recordings. The right picture is not as high.
There will be pictures of exhaust systems ....
Thanks in advance!
Greeting
Antwort von Nightfly!:
Moin moin!
THE IDEAL CAMERA will never give, because on the one
AndyZZ:
because the manufacturer so that his business would break even. and secondly (which is much more substantial) we are all not 100% the same wish.
For example, although I find the SD card camcorder but a cool development, I was me on my DV tape archive at the moment probably the first time a DV tape camcorder (+ HDV) buy
synonymous to the archives continue to be able to use.
Some other makes as larger cuts and throws the "all the old stuff" away.
Therefore, the diversity, however, synonymous with the highlights is always a little hitch.
Gruß,
Nightfly.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
The Ideal Camera?
either it has the other, or you will be just in any magazines described.
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