Frage von Blackeagle123:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5850174509&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr8_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
here is the link for the Camera!
(Sorry that I am the same to my post "Search Betacam" written and got it 2 times so that has been posted. But since it actually post anything to do with the Betacam search, I once again here!)
Thanks for your thoughts schonmal
Love Greetings
Constantin
Antwort von Frank B.:
Hello,
my opinion is worth a VHS camera anymore. We may fall into this case of the Optics (deceived by appearance). Technically, is someting totally outdated. Even a recording on a digital disk, bypassing the VHS recording can only occur via composite, resulting in the worst possible quality.
It is interesting maybe a cheap Top - Camera from Hi8 or S-VHS field, the signal recording it via S-video on a digital disk.
Here you can safely achieve a quality, more expensive, the synonymous DV - Cameras
can withstand.
Gruß Frank
Antwort von mdb:
my opinion is worth a VHS camera anymore. We may fall into this case of the Optics (deceived by appearance). Since it is in this case to S-VHS, I do not see it that way. In the system which they would have at least one Y / C output offers (better than composite). I do not know the camera, but I would not dare to call them generally regarded as worse than any DV camera. And if I then look at the price (12 * 25 = 300 Euro) including the replacement warranty, I get the DV-cam for this? Of course, one must remember that the post-processing, especially s.Calculator, is expensive (you have to stop S-Video can capture).
Antwort von Chris2:
Thus, an absolute nonsense! Once you record on analog VHS to DV media you have a clear difference in quality. Okay, if you jump with Y / C go out, it'll be half so bad ... but how will you be able to record the action with sensible eh?
And there still seems to not even be a battery while :-)
Have an absolutely worthless piece of this is electrical, with the guarantees you no great joy when you have more wilt synonymous only half-serious claim s.deine shots and the workflow. Any cheap camera has as Aldi holidays offer IN ALL RESPECTS much more. Sowas offer to lease and then at such prices, I think this is a baseless impertinence.
Schonmal pictures of those cheap consumer cameras from these times seen? Low resolution, totally desaturated and pale colors (this) is still very low color resolution, interlaced, etc etc etc.
You prefer any used purchase, please DV Camera around the same money as this stuff.
The thing is just great. Nothing else.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Okay, thank you for your opinion!
I really weitergeholfen.
But what exactly is the difference between Betacam and S-VHS camcorder? Draws a Betacam not synonymous on VHS or S-VHS cassettes?
Become a part of me that buying on ebay under any circumstances! :)
Love Greetings
Constantin
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
"It is interesting maybe a cheap Top - Camera from Hi8 or S-VHS field, the signal recording it via S-video on a digital drive."
Link: http://cgi.ebay.de/SONY- CCD V5000E-PROFESSIONAL CAMERA SHOULDER-V-5000-E_W0QQitemZ5851275146QQcategoryZ11392QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem then something like this is more of a corresponding Camera?
What price would be justified for this yet?
or how siehts with this one from (S-VHS): http://cgi.ebay.de/Schulterkamera-with-S-VHS-Recorder-Panasonic-Typ-NV-MS4E_W0QQitemZ5850340052QQcategoryZ12060QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Schonmal Thanks in advance!
Many dear greetings
Constantin
Antwort von Chris2:
Draws a Betacam not synonymous on VHS or S-VHS cassettes? How do you get that idea?
Under Betacam one normally sees BetacamSP, the most used (and most expensive!) Professional analog video format. It captures on a separate cassette (1 / 2 inches, there is a large (30 min) and small (60 min) cassettes). Outrageous analog Betacam offers quality - but what does it properly. With VHS to not even compare. Two years ago it was virtually impossible for a used BetaSP player (not recorder!) For less than 5,000 euros to purchase - what does a complete camera, so you can derive from it. I highly doubt that anyone one no longer used BetaSP standing around in the basement has.
then something like this is more of a corresponding Camera?
What price would be justified for this yet? Why do you want to necessarily as an old, analog (or semi-analog device) Scrap? Bring you but only disadvantages ...
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Because it is a shoulder-mounted camera, which would I use for more interviews, or if I do not films from Tripod.
My small Panasonic NV-MX300 Of course, despite it wobbles stabilizer yet! For a tripod or Kran-/Steadicamaufnahmen I would continue to use the 3CCD Camera!
I can ask for views WDR, whether they have or BetacamSP gigiBeta (if not) too expensive!
What price would be justified for a BetacamSP or DigiBeta?
Had such a Hi8 (, Video8) or S-VHS Camera significantly worse in picture quality? The good, would continue the fast manual setting of shutter speed, shutter, focus, and partial zoom. If I make the s.meinem digital camcorder during an interview (on the street while standing still ,...) manual, are partially blurred the resulting images. (If not filmed by Tripod)
That's better for the large camcorders: - /
I hope the picture quality is not significantly worse!
Love Greetings
Constantin
PS: There is synonymous with Betacam 1CCD and 3CCD differences? Or in the Hi8 or S-VHS machines?
Antwort von BjörnF:
Hi Constantin,
without getting too close to you - but perhaps you should think again what it means for your production processes, if you then have BetaSP material.
Costs are likely old 300s or 400s BetaSP cameras (usually without Batteries and Optics) is still four digits. Ne functional DigiBeta determined 10000th
But that's not everything - because you Bruach an additional player to view the tapes or einzudigitalisieren. The SP cameras have indeed nen BNC output, but since you only siehts the camera image. When playing only what you see in the viewfinder.
So I think you'd better look at data-shoulder cameras.
MfG
Björn
Antwort von Frank B.:
Hello,
I've just noticed that I was wrong. It is for this device is a real offer SVHS. I had not read the first read far enough, had seen only in the description VHS.
An S-VHS machine can of course connect via S-Video s.ein digital recording medium. However, it is with this camcorder is a very outdated model. The Panasonic MS 4 and even the SonyV 5000 (after they have been asked more in the thread) should be newer. The V 5000 also features stereo sound on the still digital. We can therefore, in addition to the recording on a digital medium, nor a viable Parallelaufnahme to make at least for the audio material on Hi8 tape. It is also possible for the V 5000, a manual level control.
Gruß Frank
Antwort von PowerMac:
Also of me:
you're still young. 16 if I'm not mistaken. Do not start with such a nonsense to.
Older Beta SP cameras cost at least 5,000 euros. And have thereby irsinnige Volume hours talk-they are strong (!) Needed. So no guarantees. In addition, one beyond repair or maintenance ensure your financial resources.
A DigiBeta with essential costs (Tripod, Lens, Batteries) equipment still good 20,000. For Z. Since you have a complete consumer camera, I assume that you do not have 20,000 euros for disposal. Synonymous and should not be.
In addition: to cut DigiBeta material, or 8 or 10 bit uncompressed it needs better editing system with SDI and RAID. No, no premiere;). If you already filming on a DigiBeta, you need a Class 1 monitor, otherwise it brings not. Unfortunately, the costs synonymous money back.
Please do not forget the whole thing. A data-shoulder camera? If you did need to specify ...
Antwort von mdb:
It captures on a separate cassette (1 / 2 inches, there is a large (30 min) and small (60 min) cassettes). Small cassettes (5, 10, 20, 30 min); large cassettes (5. 10. min 20. 30. 60. 90 that do not fit into the camcorder). The terms are for NTSC, PAL, they are correspondingly longer (90 = true) 105
Antwort von mdb:
But that's not everything - because you Bruach an additional player to view the tapes or einzudigitalisieren. He could take the color adapter to play out of the camera. But without TBC and Dropoutcompensator and only composite output, but not worth the Betacam.
Antwort von mdb:
I can ask for views WDR, whether they have or BetacamSP gigiBeta (if not) too expensive! http://www.wdr.de/unternehmen/t-boerse/index.jhtml
PS: There is synonymous with Betacam 1CCD and 3CCD differences? Or in the Hi8 or S-VHS machines? 1-chip Betacam SP? Never heard of
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Thank s.alle erstmal!
I had imagined it any differently ... I thought this betacam have the same quality as DV cameras today. And then I would have walked out from the analog s.besten Camera and then had the überspeilt on my digital camcorder to your PC, respectively), nor a card purchased (analog / digital converter. Mhmm ... in which what you've told me now it's not nearly as easy. Since these cameras have no analog-out: - / I think I'll leave it to blow up as 20000 ¬ but my part;)
Love Greetings
Constantin
PS: no need yet to specify a shoulder-mounted camera! : - /
Antwort von Flati:
I thought this betacam have the same quality as DV cameras today The true extent synonymous, but here you must not neglect them, what kind of optics betacam s.den dranhängen. The MX300 is where you have a very good camera, but with such a halt Optics'll never get out a soft depth of field.
When I look at your issue, then I get the impression that you yourself have very little information and you s.Fachwissen synonymous missing something, which is not bad. But I would never see where a camera (I want to buy have defined) clearly without my wishes.
You feel it (I once insinuating) at about interview situations to be taken seriously (hence the shoulder camera), but if I were you then watch the films with an S-VHS, I would take you no more seriously, since I had more respect for you If a MX300 with films. You purchase a monopod and a shoulder support will ast you spending less and a good quality.
And only one more thing: Your interviewees are much more at ease when they are facing a small camera.
Have fun!
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey Flati,
Of course, I'll seriously made synonymous with a shoulder-mounted camera:)
klar ^ ^
The DOF is synonymous one thing to me is very important! Especially in the Betacam. I have soo much in advance not synonymous can check, since I have not found much and wanted to hear your opinion regarding S-VHS cameras, Betacam, Hi8, etc.
So once again summarized:
When I s.eine well-preserved S-VHS camera with a good lens, with which I can achieve a shallow depth without much zoom, get cheap and has an analogue output on which the video is played synonymous, then a worthwhile purchase or definitely not?
(Quality)
Love Greetings
Constantin
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
--------> Pushed up again!
Antwort von Markus:
Hi Constantin,
I interpret your requests this way: You do not want to admit that the days of SVHS and Hi8 are over and you hope you call someone a camera, the synonymous terms for today's superior picture-and sound quality and delivers the straight on eBay have for a cheap price is. - Sorry, that I may not be used synonymous.
If it absolutely must be a shoulder model, look at the views of SonyVX9000. Which is indeed synonymous not exactly new, takes only a full-size DV cassettes, and the synonymous Schwachlichtreserven not exactly correspond to the VX2100, but at least it is a digital camera with 3CCD shoulder. Only "cheap" is synonymous needed to be unobtainable. An estimated ¬ 1,000 if it is fully operational. ;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
Listen (...) did your opinion regarding S-VHS cameras, Betacam, Hi8, etc.
So once again summarized:
When I s.eine well-preserved S-VHS camera with a good lens, with which I can achieve a shallow depth without much zoom, get cheap and has an analogue output on which the video is played synonymous, then a worthwhile purchase or definitely not?
NO. VHS / S-VHS rather badly.
Hi8 worse.
Beta SP very good but analogous. Beta SP is just thrown out at the stations. A very good BetaSP synonymous with a good editing system is a still, two years at a public broadcaster.
Sorry, but your desires are illusions. Why do you think, no bad VHS cameras used? Why the most gibts bei Ebay for 40 euros? Why is no one takes, if they are synonymous shoulder cameras?
Your way or the desires cost more than 3,4,5000 euros.
Antwort von mdb:
You do not want to admit that the times of SVHS and Hi8 are over Still has a dockable JVC S-VHS (BR-S422U) for professional cameras (but no matching cameras More)
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
mhmm:)
Yes, Mark, I think you've hit the nail on the head;)
The model that you have mentioned to me, of course, synonymous still quite expensive, but that would obviously be a suitable model to my wishes!
I think it will remain in future reports or documentaries in the loan, until the time I got money to buy me a professional Betacam SP or digital 3CCD shoulder camcorder.
S.alle Thanks again!
Many dear greetings
Constantin
Antwort von Axel:
Of course, I'll seriously made synonymous with a shoulder-mounted camera:) Hi Constantin.
You hoof it with your, say, VX 9000, pansig as it is now time in the station / department store / the airport. Before a short time check: How long do you think you need to wait until someone asks you for a permit?
A friend who has the smaller XL1, it is permanently so. Be taken seriously is an understandable desire. Less troublesome is to take his
project seriously. [/ Quote]
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hello Axel,
yes, since you're quite right ... Although my projects-either way-seriously, I'll remember me that! :) But do people react (unfortunately) different when you get started with a shoulder camera. The people are indeed more open, if you have a small camera, but sometimes they say nothing at all, because we happen to have just a little Camera! : - /
Are open only to stop those in which one has an interview scheduled already fixed in advance, as in a senior position of the ADAC, who then interviewed herausplaudert happy times more! In a pedestrian area but one would rather not stand out and attract 10 people to get an interview ...
Love Greetings
Constantin
Antwort von Markus:
Hi Constantin,
if your film and your appearance convinced, then you do not need a great camera to pass as a pro. I've been with my TRV900 appeared for the wedding of rotation. With directional microphone, windscreen, fur and Headphones that looked passable.
And even if it might upset someone at the event, so the difference from "Uncle with the digicam" would at least be made visible when the film was edited. ;-)
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
:) Yes, the difference is definitely visible!
Well, directional microphone windscreen and camera shoe, I have not (yet).
Me one of you can the Funktoin "Iris" Erla in the (semi-) professoinellen cameras?
Love Greetings
Constantin
Antwort von mdb:
:) Yes, the difference is definitely visible!
Well, directional microphone windscreen and camera shoe, I have not (yet). A sound engineer could see clearly from this professional.
Me one of you can the Funktoin "Iris" Erla in the (semi-) professoinellen cameras? This is the aperture setting, I guess.
