Frage von filley:
Good day dear forum,,
I am more or less professionally with live visuals at club context and the video recordings of my small digital camera sony schnuckelig Koemm me being miserable, it takes at 25fps and so do I have any after effects from movies and draw pictures to interpolate, but the True, it's not ..
I just want to have the opportunity to film the pitching is not bucking arises, whether slowly or quickly ..
when I look now for 650 euro a great camera to buy, although I have a better zoom and certainly synonymous designed a moving objective, but the problem with the flow of the videos, I will continue to have ..
I despair, because the market s.digitalen cameras is simply too big .. I want to buy me a video camera when I really only 2 things really matters.
1. disk as a storage medium
2. the possibility of 50 F / sec (!) to be included
Now, I do not have any of thousands of euros on hand to me a studio camera to buy, so there must be something good right now, just to be around 650 euros as the maximum price ..
mr nice when the saturn was my question yesterday with a bit overwhelmed and could only communicate to me that all the cameras which offer only 25 f / sec can ..
is it normal that in a somewhat 'lower' price categories garnicht something with the equipment is possible?
Antwort von Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:
The Saturnman was right. So I do not know any SD Cam's 50 frames per second recording (ie, at least not for 650 ¬)
What did you do for a Camera? Otherwise, perhaps a HDV Cam, for example, HV20, the 50i (fields) can hold.
Although, I would now invade the HVX200, which can cost just 50p and 5000 ¬, so a real bargain!
Antwort von filley:
wow!
5000 Euro?! , Which by far exceed my budget ..
MiniDV I just wanted to avoid me because of the transfer to the computer in real time probably would annoy pretty quickly ..
50i are not synonymous interpolated images?
equal of the camera?
my clips, I now sony dcs with its F17 on ..
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... video footage of my sony ... digitalkamera Koemm me being miserable, it takes at 25fps and so do I have any after effects from movies and draw pictures can interpolate ... my clips, I now sony dcs with its F17 on. . I suspect the problem lies elsewhere: The DSC-W17 is a digital video camera to my knowledge, not with 25fps, but alternatively with 30, 16.6 or 8.3 fps - even as MPEG1 best in the 640x480 VGA Resolutionvon pixels. Perhaps, against this background would be a perfectly normal - and affordable - SD PAL camcorder but have better results, which you aspire?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Marco:
The JVC PD1 is 50p in 4:3 SD format. The camera is as new device used on eBay often times between 600 and 1,000 euros to be found.
Marco
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
PD 1 may be synonymous 16:9 625 / 50 P, like 4:3 625 / 50 P.
Sanyo VPC HD 1 A / EX I would still come with 60 P, but with Resolution640x480 there.
Yes Digicams gibts 25 P rather few, because I fall Casio Z 1000 / 1050 off the one. Whether a rich 640x480 - naja.
I do not think, however, that each user P Picture 100% Picture of an I at the first viewing may differ without the program lard.
I think the 25 / 30 P images of a digicam still significantly worse than for a computer 50 i Picture, not only because 720x576, but synonymous, the significantly higher data rate of MiniDV with 25 MBit / sec, digicams are rarely more than 10 Mbit / sec, often only 5 Mbits / sec. This is a swing synonymous with the use of a fast card is impossible.
W 17 should be about 70 MB / min, ie 9.33 Mbit / sec.
You can not have everything stop ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von arnosworld:
I suspect the problem lies elsewhere: The DSC-W17 is a digital video camera to my knowledge, not with 25fps, but alternatively with 30, 16.6 or 8.3 fps - even as MPEG1 best in the 640x480 VGA Resolutionvon pixels.
Gruß Bernd E. and by what criteria to select the camera-recorder between the 3 of you said MODIS?
perhaps I should read the manual times, so will certainly not be fully automated ..
So 640 x 480 is sufficient for my needs from the fullest, "I do not want to make movies ..
Hello,
PD 1 may be synonymous 16:9 625 / 50 P, like 4:3 625 / 50 P.
Sanyo VPC HD 1 A / EX I would still come with 60 P, but with Resolution640x480 there.
Yes Digicams gibts 25 P rather few, because I fall Casio Z 1000 / 1050 off the one. Whether a rich 640x480 - naja.
the cameras, I will look at it, thank you for the tipp.!
Hello,
I think the 25 / 30 P images of a digicam still significantly worse than for a computer 50 i Picture, not only because 720x576, but synonymous, the significantly higher data rate of MiniDV with 25 MBit / sec, digicams are rarely more than 10 Mbit / sec, often only 5 Mbits / sec. This is a swing synonymous with the use of a fast card is impossible.
W 17 should be about 70 MB / min, ie 9.33 Mbit / sec.
include a camera with its hard disk as a storage medium as a digicam?
or else it looks like with the data rates with hdd cameras from?
lg,,
p.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
perhaps I should read the manual times That is always a good idea ;-)
include a camera with its hard disk as a storage medium as a digicam? Why not? The storage media has nothing to do.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Peter06:
wow!
MiniDV I just wanted to avoid me because of the transfer to the computer in real time probably would annoy pretty quickly ..
. you will render times for sd and hd a lot more annoying:)
Antwort von Axel:
... it takes at 25fps and so do I have any after effects from movies and draw pictures to interpolate, but its true, it's not .. ! Interpolation is not the motion information, but the missing pixel rows on the surface of individual frames. A PAL-Cam from the supermarket is actually a frequency of 50 stages, a 60th of NTSC And since you wrote that the image would be less, it would be advisable for your budget, as well.
At variable speed in the post it is always better to take pictures with little motion blur to have (short Shutterzeiten). This normally leads to a kind of playing Jerkiness. After Effects may be inferred from these clean frames by analyzing the frame to frame of pixels moved a motion blur calculation, the playback speed of each effect adjusted liquid.
In plain 50p bring you any advantage in terms of clean movement, only the images themselves will be better dissolved. In addition, costs progressive recording exposure time, a disadvantage for Timeramping (see above).
Antwort von wolfgang:
Well, compared with 25p in 50p mode brings a JVC PD1 already a bit of advantage, the motion resolution is concerned. You see just at the wrong PD1 a difference if you live around the camera hangs s.einen plasma, and between 25p and 50p shifts.
Price could PD1 - tape anyway - for yourself an interesting compromise, because the apparatus of the 50p you want may well indeed, and because it occasionally on ebay is still available, such as Marco really meant. I have here a synonymous around, in my opinion, I switch to HDV actually becoming less and less use (even for the few events that I have 2-camera film to fashion).
Antwort von Jan:
Yes the 30 progressive frames / sec a digicam - there very often used - you can quickly get on your nerves - for the user to be a 50 then i have to do in the editing program. Since Casio has ever had a good idea.
Sony digicams often have two settings at 640x480, even 30 B / sec or about 16 B / sec depending on model.
Ok, HDD camcorders are synonymous often 9 / 10 Mbit / sec in the best level, but only the best companies get to use the high quality level similar to a mini DV Picture out. Digicams try halt with DivX or H.264 recently a 2-5 Mbits / sec High Picture in shape, but very rarely succeed in motion. When Still Image and shallow pans may be even a digicam still go. Well maybe I'm synonymous überpingelig.
JVC PD 1 can recommend a kind of high Voreiter Consumer - pity the JVC is not too much success.
VG
Jan
