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Frage von c.herf:


Hello,

I want to try it as a documentary and short films next year, some with their own camcorder. I had the direction of Canon XH A1, Panasonic DVX100BE thought that I have after careful consideration at the moment too expensive to try out also extends perhaps synonymous what "smaller". Now I would like the films synonymous times on a canvas or in small cinemas. Actually it should not be too easy to start but in the meantime s.mich been synonymous for small camcorders around. I want to have a chance Microphone adapter (XLR perhaps?), 25p progressive recording (I've seen), I would like synonymous, preferably focusing and zoom ring, the possibility of the Aperture manual procedure. HD or no HD? Or FullHD? 4:3 or 16:9 chips? This all has me for help and suggestions camera. Oh yes ... Finance: between 800-2000 euros (new if possible)

Greetings and thanks in advance in advance ....

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Antwort von C.I.W:

In the SD area, I would you to find your budget
Canon XM2 SonyVX 2100 (Both under 2000 ¬ to Grieg)
If you have a HDV Cam spontaneously occurs to me looking for the Canon HV20 On.

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Antwort von WoWu:

... hello ...
.. because you have an opportunity, a material synonymous to edit? Because the budget is, of course, almost no more air in it ...

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Antwort von C.I.W:

100 ¬ for Magix Video deluxe Pros will surely still be inside.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Deep inhale and XH A1.

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Antwort von c.herf:

1. So the vx2100 does not have 25p, but otherwise I've just heard the best. That is when Docus not so important. But even if you want to s small scenic NEN movies or music video shoot ... will probably see even in good lighting nice.

2. PC altogether tidy. About editing software do I later thought! Do not confuse now! ;)

3. What makes the difference of HD and not HD, for example, recordings with a XM2 and the HV20 on a screen noticeable? And the higher resolution because really "good" (short films and documentaries !!)??

4. That with the Canon XH A1 is common! I want to still synonymous! Where there are not too good camcorder to buy used?

Thanks

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Children, but you must know that will soon no longer sow DV movies in 4:3 buys. 16:9 True HD and slow - that is no way out. Not even for messages to the sender nor 4:3 - DV stuff. So geil a DVX from handling, no HD, no 16:9. There must probably be realistic.

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Antwort von c.herf:

Ok then please have a two-time HD-Cam recommendations .... 25p and 16:9 and 800 - about 2000 ¬! Canon XH A1 and does not count because I already know;) ... which bring the FX7 or FX1? However, it will almost back to the Canon may ... Oh yes, and someone knows where used camcorder to get? With warranty?

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Antwort von Nacho:

HV20 + DOF Adapter?
Stay in the financial framework that meets the requirements, there really good shots.

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Antwort von c.herf:

35mm adapter? Since I still have to buy and Lenses NEN so that I monitor the Picture nich aufm head must-see ... maybe later retrofit .... expensive wirds synonymous, then at least with Camera 3000 ¬ provides good pictures but .... well .... any other suggestions?

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Antwort von schellemedia:

Hi,
we lend at affordable prices .....

http://www.schellemedia.de

regards
Annett

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Antwort von c.herf:

Good Prices! Not quite my area. But I have to try more than the rent would stretch. Thank you ...

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Antwort von PowerMac:

HV20 or XH A1.

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Antwort von c.herf:

And in between there are HD-mäßig nothing? Perhaps what with his "good" manual focus?

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Antwort von C.I.W:

There is currently little something, or nothing. Please wait until new Sonyseinen shoulder camcorder rausbringt. ~ 1600 ¬

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Antwort von Nacho:

"c.herf" wrote: And in between there are HD-mäßig nothing? Perhaps what with his "good" manual focus?

HV20 with "focus wheel:

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=1188

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Antwort von c.herf:

What do you think of a 20 hours completed with wide-angle Canon XM1? (1299 ¬)

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Antwort von Jan:

Where are the movies presented?

Video projector (beamer) as I have heard, there you can see very well whether the Camera s.Ende the chain with only 414,720 pixels saves, like XM 1st 1300 ¬, I would not do it, synonymous when I was quite satisfied with the DM XM 2 was up to the Auto Focus Problems with Lowlight, Sound (Camera takes it very badly if the input level is slightly higher - this may Sonydeutlich better) and the Exposure problems in black & white contrasts (dafür gibts ja Spotlight feature so no "absäuft").

VX 2100 but of course, synonymous to expensive for a SD camera.

There are currently no times useful on the market, so what about when is 1800 ¬, FX 7, I recommend, yes that is synonymous minimum 2500 ¬, FX 1 a little higher, many filmmakers put a little thing and have the here has often mentioned XH A 1 - XLR and good wide-angle, SW control panel option s.PC are their Keyfacts.

JVC HD 7 has tried, so the color can be commendable, output via DV synonymous, synonymous focus ring makes a good impression (at least better than the mini-wheels of Sony (HC 7) or Canon (HV 20), if it were not for the poor grotto "optical"! stability would collapse and the sharpness of the edges.

There is simply no good at the market in the price range of ¬ 1000-2500 - at least for the moment.

If you like the price of 2500 ¬ is too high, and some claim there is, you have manual adjustment (focus ring, zoom ring) would like to have, I would like to have for the Project s.deiner body was borrowed.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von c.herf:

Good. The 25p with hmm. Determines overestimated;) ... You can probably cut programs in 50 fields in 25 full or convert ...? Because I like the FX7 quite well .... there for 3770, - SFr (2300Euro) in Switzerland ....

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Antwort von Jan:

Yes 25 P is more expensive from a few exceptions, often only a bluff, it will be as synonymous with more expensive Canons often 2 half "ineinandergelegt".

SonyHDR FX 7 is a very good automatic camera, with hardly any major weaknesses, but some small inconsistencies synonymous.

Sonyhat unlike the FX 1 in the AV wegrationalisiert, now there are only a 3.5 mm jack input - and not even a line in but really just a normal microphone input. The manual Tonaussteuerung is only accessible via the menu, then press 3-4 buttons to get there - this is in the FX 1 better. The Lowlightbild is not bad, but somehow not quite the usual high Sony Or Canon XH level. Schade are synonymous to about 5 mm wide loss XH 1 & FX 1st

The 20 x optical zoom in Comparison to the FX 1 is interesting, the smaller 1 / 4 "sensors is less than I've felt bad, who wants less depth of focus - must stop the zoom rausfahren next - I have very ansehentliche portraits with 20x optical zoom and complete blurred background "managed".

The good public image (synonymous automatic), a very good stability and AF, a variety of manual image parameters (some of which not even the höherklassige had Z 1), such as Sharp Peaking adjustment assistance (in 3 colors) and the synonymous together with Zebra overexposure may help convince .
The level synonymous insertion in automatic mode you previously knew only a few models - not times Z 1 (professional version of the FX 1), exactly as the manual intervention in the AF with the focus ring (I was only 1)

There are a lot of synonymous finely adjustable s.eigenen parameters for stability and Aperture. Important functions can be performed at 6 Assign Buttons are stored, and from stability to infinity focus, Marker, Peaking zb are quite useful for that.

Whether you neuzugewonnene functions like the megapixel photos, or the super slow motion needs everyone must stop themselves.

Well FX 7 with a better Lowlightverhalten, line in input, Tonaussteuerung outside, possibly XLR - that would be the perfect camera ....

VG
Jan

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Antwort von DocMAX:

"Well FX 7 with a better Lowlightverhalten, line in input, Tonaussteuerung outside, possibly XLR - that would be the perfect camera ...."

well if you Lowlighteigenschaften the rich would
so that would be your perfect camera v1.
Incidentally, Canon has h1 weitwinkel less than the FX7
whether their lowlightfähigkeiten better than the FX7
I do not have at least aufghellte h1 recordings
just like a lighter color FX7 footage.
gruß cj

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Antwort von Filmroller:

If you are interested s.ner used XM2 searched my kannste for 1000, - have.
Gruß Siggi

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Antwort von Jan:

CJ Yes there are, therefore, the V 1 yes - yes Will Sony synonymous in the class to make money.

Well Lowlight is up as well to assess. In the recent past I had often the next DSR PD 170, which is an entirely different league, maybe somehow the FX 7, the number of pixels for HDV "protect".

The FX 7, but we still make big plus point, is to reinforce its no big problem, where the PD 170 at 6 DB GAIN nerves could have, you can at the FX CMOS 7 synonymous with no big problems on 9 DB Gain walk - because what has been done in the sensor technology.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von beni:

"Film Roller" wrote: If you are interested s.ner used XM2 searched my kannste for 1000, - have.
Gruß Siggi


is yet to have?
Ships would be possible in switzerland?
grüsse beni

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