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concert / band vx 2100 with record



Frage von swann:
November 2006

subject to the concert / recording band, give it here so much. but ask me to stay only on the building. I film with the sony vx 2100 the stage (another camera stands on a tripod). This camera manual I will now use. but since I only s.nachmittag camera in hand and get s.abend movies, I need some things clarified before.

1. It is useful in a spotlight mode to drive
2. can you predict the exposure at a maximum value set during filming or move?

there is, I think, a button to the camera on manual to make. then the auto focus and even what it is essential to adjust.

maybe I get this camera anyway earlier in the hand or come to a manual, for advice, I would be very grateful.



Antwort von oliver II:

"Swann" wrote:
1. It is useful in a spotlight mode to drive

And I always thought that the mode of Renault ;-)

There is no single answer, because it is very light conditions on the matter (concert is not the same concert). If you're mostly close-ups of the actors do, the less sense Spotlight mode. This is useful if a certain part of the image in the shade and the other is strongly illuminated (even Spotlight). Perhaps this is more what your camera fixed.
With my XM2 I have good experience with the manual aperture made.



Antwort von Jan:

I've only experience with the PD 170, which is ne VX 2100 is upgraded.

That would be my settings (Everyone has his or her point of view):

AF - For the Camera festmonierte better manual removal of the stage set, Sony is generally very clear in concert lighting (what Canon can not say) to have no risk but not AF.

White balance - I have always had a good picture at SonyPD 170 White Balance setting - artificial light when the lighting situation is too confused then stop it manually WAG.

Shutter - 1 / 50 sec purely throw - fixed - not automatic, because the camera on the idea could be just a 1 / 25 sec or longer to use only 1 / 50 sec and shorter for the easy inclusion of movement needed. Closure is equal to the rear alongside Viewfinder adjustable.

Aperture - the majority here makes this manual, I find the automatic aperture better to have made recordings. After my feeling Aperture jumps in changing to the next higher - you have to imagine how a dimmer for light, as if the dimmer turns very quickly. That may be so because the PD 170 in only 1 / 3 steps how it works. I find this picture via automatic better, there's aperture change revealed a more homogeneous picture. manual aperture is lateral (side against cassette tray)-Iris.

If, however, have different focus areas should be himself, do you without the manual, Aperture is not next.

Gain - depending on the light, if possible, not much higher than 6 dB, because then the noise in the hard Sonysynonymous increases.

Important even if the upper camera is operated in order of the shots in the Halbtotale to change (no one ever wants to be a far-acting Picture where all watch, but the tape eigentl hard to see, it is important that there is a perfect agreement between Camera 1 (I say now) and Camera 2 (stage there) - s.besten by radio.

Camera 1 must watch it in the Camera 2 Picture has never, and never Camera 1, the angles of the shots in the Halbtotale (of head to foot singer zb) change if both the stages Camera 2 in the same grade scene moves.

For this reason there are synonymous with the professionals an extra 1 cameraman - was I think POH or something like that, the cameras anweisst what - who when up, please Totale Camera 1 - Camera 2 singers Closeup, Camera 3 visitors etc.

If not all the band members in order to extract large to fit the picture, and tens of cameras you do not have available, such thee in the tape from the visitors s.Interessantesten (& Charismatic Movement) is (usually the singer) and think more on him than on the inside is always the same boring looking bassist.

Good movies!

VG
Jan








Antwort von Jan:

Even the Spotlight feature in Canon, Canon is known for a very dark scene in the tape display overexposed, because it just such a lighting situations do not always cope well, no preference whether XM 2 or XL 1 - is Spotlight. Nobody wants grell / bright overexposed faces.

A SonyVX 2100 / PD 170 has no such problems, or if only very rarely.

VG
Jan



Antwort von BjörnF:

So this Spotlight mode is there, the automatic support. The expected simply not work if you put the camera manual keys.

The VX has a switch between auto and manual. This does not auto, the manual everything is set. You can still individually select whether White Balance, Aperture and Shutter manual regulated. The (auto) focus is always with another switch s.Lens controlled.

Anything you manual steer, as the value is displayed in the Viewfinder. Ie in the reverse, if you are not 50 for the shutter, aperture and no no icon for the Weißableich siehts is because each time the automatic turn.

If you want to Aperture manual control, you have to synonymous fixed to the shutter ne 1 / 50 that otherwise governs your camera manual to automatic Aperture.

So my recommendations:
White Balance with both cameras at preset tungsten (I suppose at times, it's not an open-air ;-)
For the shot: Autofocus from, and if you have no second helper, Aperture on automatic. Fixed shutter 1 / 50.
For the Stage: notes Shutter 1 / 50, Aperture manual focus depending how fit you are manual, but automatic is synonymous.

Björn



Antwort von BjörnF:

"Jan" wrote:

White balance - I have always had a good picture at SonyPD 170 White Balance setting - artificial light when the lighting situation is too confused then stop it manually WAG.


That will be two cameras during the concert difficult. Concert Lighting is sometimes pretty nasty bunt, which brings a tungsten preset synonymous over synonymous and one has two cameras to the same white. If you go to the "Colored" adjusts, the more the mood is broken.

Quote:
Gain - depending on the light, if possible, not much higher than 6 dB, because then the noise in the hard Sonysynonymous increases.


The leaves are unfortunately only in its PD regardless of the aperture control. In its VX Gainwerte are part of the diaphragm arrangement that is OPEN then +3, +6 ....

Quote:
For this reason there are synonymous with the professionals an extra 1 cameraman - was I think POH or something like that, the cameras anweisst what - who when up, please Totale Camera 1 - Camera 2 singers Closeup, Camera 3 visitors etc.


The director called and sits in a meaningful way of Directing, where he sees images of all cameras and the intercom on his instructions there. That will cut live synonymous. And in the post-production then just "renewed" - what one individual leadership synonymous cameras recorded separately. And of course there will be stage cameramen repeatedly Picture found.

Björn



Antwort von Markus:

"BjörnF" wrote:
The director called and sits in a meaningful way of Directing, where he sees images of all cameras and the intercom on his instructions there. That will cut live synonymous. ...

But is obviously a budget issue. 1-2 days Postpro vs. Additional costs of a live production. For the Picture-/Tonregie says that the settings are denied and consequently more is possible than in the subsequent sorting of any work in the pans Postpro.

I personally now do everything manual, because of changing lighting may be on an automatic rarely leave. The light goes out and just seconds later, again: Picture This starts completely overexposed and blurred? - No thanks!

As the White Balance to Tungsten is determined, the signal gain does not normally be touched and the exposure time to 1 / 50 s was set to restrict the other settings are usually on the aperture and focus. This can be synonymous without camera helpers do well. (Especially as a help s.einem compact camcorder synonymous so no real help more, but preferably in the way).



Antwort von Jan:

"BjörnF" wrote:


The director called and sits in a meaningful way of Directing, where he sees images of all cameras and the intercom on his instructions there. That will cut live synonymous. And in the post-production then just "renewed" - what one individual leadership synonymous cameras recorded separately. And of course there will be stage cameramen repeatedly Picture found.

Björn


If no extra Directed man and there is more camera men on the ground there are a first cameraman, the camera people are instructed, which has an abbreviated name synonymous po?, Which comes but rarely well before geb ich zu.

Ich habs (despite turning Live Beginners PD 170) managed at the 3rd Concert of a festival that my cameraman 2 (stage - my trainers) in 45 min only 2-3 times in the picture appears. By simply with an eye looks where he is, with the second super Sw viewfinders of PD 170 refereed. A better solution is of course a radio between the camera men.

And always try the overview of the whole stage to receive, and to guess where the other cameraman then hinläuft. It's damn hard. If the stage is a little cameraman behave professionally and not wild uncontrollably across the stage running, you can create it. Good for the concert gabs 4 possibilities for the stage cameraman on the stage, making my job much easier. Because he does not always and it was only only one of Page came.

When White Balance - Fluorescent, Manual Focus and the 1 / 50 sec we are all agreed.

VG
Jan



Antwort von swann:

a big big thank you s.alle guide. This brings me next. The result gives, however, until after the Christmas presents.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

I add this Praxistipps times even with a link to download the manual that came with the VX2100:

www.sonydigital-link.com/DIME/camcorders/MDV/MDV.asp?l=de&sc = & m = DV DCR-VX2100E

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Markus:

"Jan" wrote:
If no extra Directed [...] man because there is a first cameraman, the camera people are instructed, which has an abbreviated name synonymous po?

Po? Perhaps the work of ... for everything! ;-)

No, seriously: If we actually did something, then it was just 1st Camera But overall, our productions more "team-shaped" and over the intercom will (where possible and not interfere) a kind of regular entertainment.

The other camera is synonymous people have good ideas and one can deny toll who of where the best view on certain subjects has. To make the synonymous really fun!



Antwort von megalutzi:

Hello,
So when there is television or the synonymous "lichtsetzenden cameraman." The chief cinematographer is looking for the simplest camera and from there the instructions.
So at least I know, but usually there is still the director.









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