Frage von zazu:
Dear specialists,
I just despair s.meinem perfectionism, which is unfortunately coupled with gross ignorance has ...
I cut my movies with Adobe Premiere Pro and am very satisfied. Unfortunately I am not so knowledgeable when it goes into the depths ...
I have of an event in America get recording on DVD - so clear in NTSC. I have separately mitgefilmt with my camera and would like both movies in the Premiere Project (PAL) together.
I've tried so far
[list] s.die original dvd with the camera on the dvd player and then incorporated into AP einzuspeisen - it fails s.der receptive from the DVD player (only sound - no picture);
b) with "DVD2AVI" the contents of the ntsc-dvd to avi encoding. Did work, but Premiere does not recognize the format ( "not supported format or corrupted file");
c) with dvd shrink to copy the DVD, and then again to start the experiment, with the camera on the dvd-player record - see result a) [/ list: u: aa8a657630]
Can someone give me a tip on how I use the file in a format that is editable with AP?
Liebe Grüße
and many many thanks in advance
ZZ
Antwort von PUDU:
The first thing you should disconnect Picture and Sound, because the sound synonymous to 4% shorter
Antwort von kafix2008:
The first thing you should disconnect Picture and Sound, because the sound synonymous to 4% shorter Only inverse Telecining must be adapted to the sound (and which was nothing). With an interpolated using standard conversion timeline import is the sound behind as long as before.
But his hauptsache mustard given synonymous when one has no idea.
Antwort von zazu:
Na na na .. Who will be the same because ...
Premiere is sometimes a Mimose and perhaps the idea is indeed not so absurd, Picture and Sound to be separated. But with what program? - And especially, what do I have when transcoding, for example, with "DVD2AVI" note?
Perhaps yes in my settings (frame rate, codec, video resize, Calculation mode ... so what do I do ...?) bury the dog ...?
Bin ja quasi newbie, so I'm not sure if my question under the rubric
Adobe Premiere Pro would not be better.
Probably zermartert you have the brains - and I'm just too impatient ;-)
Lieben Dank
Zazu
Antwort von kafix2008:
About Pasler / NTSC was in this forum actually already written a lot, maybe you can dier search on one or the other place.
Whether the split with the sound of an SDO is a good idea, I know not, of course, but when you export one would have to actually be able to output sound separately.
I myself was synonymous with my results so unhappy that I am on the KDV-500 hardware converter has converted me.
Antwort von beiti:
The easiest way seems to me the contents of the DVD with a good software converter (eg Canopus ProCoder Express) to PAL DV-AVI to convert and then as recordings of PAL camcorder further process.
A simple solution would be if you have one of those cheap DVD players can rise to NTSC after PAL convert properly (eg, of CyberHome). Then you could order the DVD and play on the AV-In your camcorder record in PAL. Comparison to a jerky quality conversion, the transformation of these players a bit more, but the usual handgefilmten home videos you can see the little pass.
Antwort von Gast 0815:
My method was as follows:
1) demux with DVD DGindex (http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/dgmpgdec.html)
2) script for Avisynth (http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page/de)
the standard conversion / create Resizer (see http://forum.gleitz.info/showthread.php?s=ed1016fdde7317b20390e8ee2ff31ec8&t=26240)
3) a DV-AVI (PAL) via Virtualdub (http://www.virtualdub.org/) can be created and will then continue to work ...
Greetings from Marburg
Antwort von miku:
It would be to me the "Cheap DVD Player Cyber Home of" a real NTSC after PAL conversion dominate ... comes out best, PAL60 and the least able to capture solutions to process.
Antwort von beiti:
It would be to me the "Cheap DVD Player Cyber Home of" a real NTSC after PAL conversion dominate ... comes out best, PAL60 and the least able to capture solutions to process. Why is every (!) Doubted if I write here in the forum? Am I in the technical field so implausible? : (
The aforementioned DVD Players take a simple but technically complete conversion (as similar as previous standard change-Recorder). There are only half doubled or omitted and the remaining slower or faster to play. This leads naturally to a bucking visible in sequences with uniform motion (eg panning), but it works. You can do so with each converted NTSC PAL recorders record (PAL60 with what was not - that would not PAL60 Jerkiness).
My first DVD player, which could, was a Yamakawa. Today I have a CyberHome, with which it works.
CyberHome Such devices are incidentally power synonymous with others in the United States, as there are hardly any multi-standard television, is the standard complete conversion is often the only way to PAL DVDs on NTSC TVs play.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
To open the DVD-Video
Antwort von beiti:
@ Quadruplex
Do you know what method with the frame rate conversion is done in VirtualDubMod? Come as a viable quality raus?
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Method - no idea. The result a bit jerky, but ansehbar.
Antwort von jbl:
Then you could order the DVD and play on the AV-In your camcorder record in PAL. Comparison to a jerky quality conversion, the transformation of these players a bit more, but the usual handgefilmten home videos you can see the little pass. Yes, that was one of my first attempts. My DVD player plays DVD-NTSC yes from synonymous. But my camcorder (SonyPC 100) are on the AV-In only sound ...
But you're right, the DVD player can ... and when I do not even the jerky picture.
(Have even considered playing in the TV just abzufilmen ... ;-)
Thank you for your input
lg
Zazu
Antwort von jbl:
My method was as follows:
1) demux with DVD DGindex (http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/dgmpgdec.html)
2) script for Avisynth (http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page/de)
the standard conversion / create Resizer (see http://forum.gleitz.info/showthread.php?s=ed1016fdde7317b20390e8ee2ff31ec8&t=26240)
3) a DV-AVI (PAL) via Virtualdub (http://www.virtualdub.org/) can be created and will then continue to work ...
Greetings from Marburg Is certainly well intentioned and many thanks for your time - but I understand 'only station ...
lg return to Marburg
Antwort von jbl:
To open the DVD-Video
Antwort von beiti:
My DVD player plays DVD-NTSC yes from synonymous. But my camcorder (SonyPC 100) are on the AV-In only sound ...
But you're right, the DVD player can ... and when I do not even the jerky picture. Since you've misunderstood me. If it is not jerky, making your player PAL60 - and it helps you nothing if you have a proper standard conversion need you synonymous to a PAL recorder can record. I spoke on the other hand, of certain DVD players that are really changing standards - but then bucking.
Incidentally, I have the method of yesterday Quadruplex tried - and although with good success. (However, I have of PAL to NTSC changed, but the other approach is just as described.)
At the end of my attempts did I see three favorable standard conversion methods are available in direct comparison: The method of Quadruplex, with the conversion, Canopus ProCoder Express, and the standard conversion with the CyberHome DVD player.
Who's interested: Here are my observations.
All are useful, but each is slightly different result. All reduce the sharpness of detail (which is probably not only of the lower-resolution NTSC Come, I rather suspect that the fields in between frames to be interpolated to have the framerate to change).
1) The Quadruplex method (ie change of frame rate and Resolutionin VirtualDubMod) brings very good results with the restriction that there a few times per second, a small Ruckler there. It is in uniform motion, but little else. Most viewers will not notice if you do not explicitly draw attention to. ;)
2) With ProCoder Express movements are smoother, apparently are intermediate images generated by crossfading (you can see clearly s.den double contours, if you still watch). Completely smooth, the procedure is not synonymous, but better than the other two. ProCoder of disadvantage is that it sometimes flicker lines (field effects) is what I am with the other methods have not noticed.
3) The Cyber Home DVD Player produces halbbildbasiertem video with the strongest overall Jerkiness; Quadruplex in Comparison to the method is the Ruckelfrequenz higher. The result, however, is synonymous to good use and by the higher Ruckelfrequenz evenly. The method seems to vollbildbasiertes material (movie DVDs) optimized, because you can see from the bucking almost nothing.
Antwort von siematic:
Synonymous times I've made a test PAL to NTSC with Premiere 6.5 and the Main Concept encoder on the result can not mekern
Antwort von Quadruplex:
[quote = "Anonymous"] I do not trust me honestly not that-ac3 decoder to load (Windows brings as a "logo" Note that frightens me somewhat.
Just ignore it - I tried it on several PCs running XP without any problems in use. I am not with Premiere, but a standard - DV - but the video should be able to open ... Remember, in the stream on the sound menu to Uncompressed ...
Antwort von zazu:
Since you've misunderstood me. If it is not jerky, making your player PAL60 - and it helps you nothing if you have a proper standard conversion need you synonymous to a PAL recorder can record. I spoke on the other hand, of certain DVD players that are really changing standards - but then bucking.
Do you know beiti, perhaps jerky is not synonymous, because in the film simply does not happen pans. Therefore, for me is not visible.
All in all, let me recording on DVD player but no rest (I like electricity - always the easiest way ;-)
So yesterday, I have an older player LIDL (WELLTECH) enabled. Den hab ich s.meinen Sony DVD player and the output with my Sony cam off ....
Many roads lead to Rome, but - it worked! They are the scanned images in Premiere: Full Success! Minimal loss of sharpness in the detail (the sound schwächelt something). But no bucking. Everything Paletti. And the sound I've already backed up with DVD2AVI.
Zazu = happy
Thanks for the tips and motivation!
Antwort von zazu:
Just ignore it - I tried it on several PCs running XP without any problems in use. I am not with Premiere, but a standard - DV - but the video should be able to open ... Remember, in the stream on the sound menu to Uncompressed ...
Thanks, I will try something in my ignorance to practice (which is selfish tips of software manufacturers are concerned ;-)
'm A little "shit", because I fear for my project had s.dem months I have been working on. I will only finish before I get my new PC round (SP, USB2, memory, etc.) and me s.Download experiments dare ...
Uncompressed I instinctively chosen (Zazu = perfectionist ;-)
However VirtualDubMod gives me the only choice for video streaming in s.and menu I find no way of audio settings. The standard conversion has, in my view, however, works correctly. Only Premiere Pro still has a problem, the file to import.
However - it now has about detours still works (see feedback to beiti)
And I've learned a lot again.
This s.Dich Thank you!
LG
Zazu
