the moment I'm playing around a bit with the options of the MainConcept encoder, but rather killed me.
How do I get the MPEG file down so perfectly that it just barely fits on a single layer DVD?
Documented case of the default settings for one hours of DV video tape will be "only" 3.2 GB, so wasted space.
Thanks in advance.
Antwort von kerberos:
* * schubs
Can / Will to say None what?
Which is using your encoder?
Antwort von Markus:
"kerberos" wrote:
Which is using your encoder?
Hardware encoder Matrox RT.X100
Antwort von kerberos:
Aaah, I was afraid of it, that is an answer that I do not like ... ;-)
Joking aside, there are somewhere over the encoder be read as, besides the great PDF help?
I have seen in other encoders already that they are trying to take advantage of DVD has better to go but synonymous with the MainConcept ... :-( (
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
I'm using Compressor of Apple, which is really only with Quicktime Export batch list, and a bunch of presets.
As can be seen by a computation actually quite good, is how big the file will be afterwards. Most of the information synonymous agree:)
If the encoder you on such a display does not?
Antwort von kerberos:
The MainConcept encoder already has a display on how large the file, but for me is at 3.3 GB conclusion.
I thought if he already has DVD 'as a template, that he fully exploits synonymous to 4.3 GB. Great calculate there may be synonymous nothing that would have everything 'to walk'.
PS: I do not have a Mac and the starting material is an AVI with 13 GB (1 hour DV tape)
I like stop MainConcept quite well because he is with distance the fastest on my chest. For 1 hour video, he takes about 70-80 minutes.
Antwort von fabriquez:
I use the Procoder and even synonymous must calculate how large may be the MPEG2 files.
Antwort von kerberos:
Hmm, apparently synonymous, the principle applies here:
The more professional, more tricky. :-(
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Hmm ... 3,3 GB? Perhaps the encoder assumes that the sound is in PCM. Then he gives you the maximum video file size. I know the program is not at all, but perhaps you can adjust for sound something like AC3 and you choose a good compromise between file size and sound quality. Or you have the wrong DVD-I (given type can only speculate ... there were times blank DVDs with only 3, irgendwasGB).
Hope I was of help to you ...
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
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For 1 hour video, he takes about 70-80 minutes.
Synonymous, I hope that you still set 2-pass VBR. Otherwise may be of optimum use no talk!
Antwort von Sprengepiel:
Hi, 'm not even so sure understand your concern to you is obviously the file is too small, the MC calculated you? Then sit the data rate is high, but which is already at about 8000 kbit / s are. Much more could be trouble with the DVD player ready. Not all like high rates. The quality will increase no more synonymous great. Hang nen folder with stills, a "making off" or other substance with pure, s.Besten You can leave it as it is. Gruß Jörg
Antwort von Jörg:
I would find useful, can encode the maximum audio quality, look there once to see if you have selected the PCM. Gruß Jörg
Antwort von Wiro:
@ Kerberos Hmmm - somehow I have the feeling that you dig s.der wrong place. Your primary goal seems to be the DVD vollzumachen to the last byte ;-)))
Nimms but other times of the Page: There is a standard that defines, among other things, how much should be the bitrate of a DVD to be playable on DVD players. Bitrate calculators go for a DVD-5 of a max. Bitrate of 9800 kbit / s kbit off - are being reserved for video kbit around 8000, for audio (PCM) 1536 - the rest for other data. If you 60 minutes of video encoding with constant maximum bit rate, are the round numbers, nearly 4 GB. More is not!
This max. Bit rate should be for compatibility reasons, however ausreizen not full, otherwise it may get some players to playback problems. A popular video bit rate is therefore kbit 7000th The MainConcept encoder (I use it too) is on these grounds for 60 min movies a preset PAL DV High Quality 7Mb CBR 1 Pass With this preset I work s.with the top of the best of success - it is true by default everything.
So you should not put your attention to the fact that the DVD is "full", but that You produce as possible compatible stream. The information, which makes the encoder for file size are not important and usually synonymous wrong, as already estimated only. Let's not confuse you then.
If you have a lot of experience you can preset the 7 MB hochschrauben hand yes to 8 MB. Greeting Wiro
Antwort von kerberos:
Thank you for your efforts, I make intelligible.
I guess I'm actually set against a heresy, that means each complete, the better.
Here, times three pictures, the encoder is set as:
If I see it so true that everything is set correctly?
Why the encoder takes 'only' an hour while rumrödelt eg TMPGEnc about 4 hours s.der File?
Thanks for your patience. Perhaps I should explain myself more with the matter.
Antwort von Jörg:
The settings seem to be ok, I would choose at Picture 3 is a constant bit rate (need) more space. Why is the MC is faster than others, is the same reason as for Ferrari and Mercedes in F1 ... one has halted its mission.
Gruß Jörg
Antwort von kerberos:
Quote:
The settings seem to be ok, I would choose at Picture 3 is a constant bit rate (need) more space.
The more space is not absolutely necessary, I have indeed rausgelesen from previous posts.
CBR is actually better than VBR?
Nevertheless, it is 'just' a video of a camcorder synonymous (if it is a NV-GS140 ;-)))
Antwort von Wiro:
@ Kerberos Yes, in your case is better than CBR and VBR, as the DVD anyway is not full. VBR was invented to save as much space. Since you do not have to save but you can go stantepede with full throttle. Greeting Wiro
Antwort von kerberos:
Test runs. The file size but has apparently not changed.
But yes, the encoding is faster!
Antwort von Archimedes:
So, if you want a bit rausholen something, then I recommend you the following: 2-pass encoding, search method on 11 (is synonymous as recommended in the manual), Search to maximum (31), the average bitrate, I would at least 6500 kbps and set the maximum bitrate you can still set at 8500 kbps. Must it really PCM sound? The GOP structure, you can leave at 12. In the advanced video settings, you first need to change anything.
So you'll get noticeably better results than the default. The encoding, however, it takes a little longer. ;-)
But next up was written, it is at max. 8000 kbps are set to achieve maximum compatibility with DVD Players?
Also, I wonder if we take a consumer camcorder (synonymous if it is a Panasonic: D) really still finds a difference if the settings still aufbohrt next.
Greeting
Antwort von Wiro:
Well, it has been debated for many years, philosophizing and theorizing, whether one way or another to do and what then is the better way.
I think that is the only way to try it yourself and form his own personal and subjective opinion. Mach's just like how we all (or most) did it: Take a 20 minute-long clip with material that matches your average Qualitätsaufkommen, and burn them several versions. Sit it in a quiet hour before the Television and try to figure out, which version is better. It is best if you have one or more persons are in the process, who did not know which version is being shown, and then the judge is clueless.
And the version that appears s.besten in your eyes (and on your television and your players), then you are taking. It's like car-freaks: they discuss days and weeks in forums, as you can by optimal adjustment of the ignition timing for another half hp more out of the machine. They may be right. The automaker, however, takes an average factory, with all the gasoline brands, and get along in the summer and winter work, synonymous with dusty, wüstentrockenen or humid conditions. And it takes up in Purchase, that mglw. 1 or 2 horsepower will be less herausgekitzelt from the machine. And all the "normal" drivers (except the freaks) are wonderfully cope with it and go 100 000 n.damit ;-))).
My 5 cents. Greeting Wiro
Antwort von kerberos:
That will probably be the best.
Probably it will be probably 5 people in 5 different opinions of what is now the best video.
Thanks @ all for your effort to explain to me as a beginner, the times a little.
Antwort von Archimedes:
@ Wiro: Comparison of lagging a little, just this "1 or 2 hp more than" Michael Schumacher made after all the 7-time World Champion. ;-)
Particularly in the MainConcept encoder is such that the defaults are not exactly ideal. And we're not talking only of "1 or 2 hp less." This could be the basis of a short clip synonymous show very quickly. The MainConcept encoder has not bought one yet, in order to encode only with the default settings. Others can do as the encoder Procoder Express much better.
For DVD-standard data rates s.etwa 6500 kbps (average bitrate) are the differences in fact not so great.
As always synonymous, 6000 kbps average bitrate come to my camcorder footage for something little. I would at least set the average bitrate to 6500 kbps, possibly even higher if it is already encoded with default settings.
Antwort von Markus:
"Archimedes" wrote:
Comparison of lagging a little, just this "1 or 2 hp more than" Michael Schumacher made after all the 7-time World Champion. ;-)
Was not it to ordinary car wrench? - Or, in a figurative sense: DVD burning is not an Olympic sport in which it arrives at the last bit to come into the world rankings at number 1. A home video is thus certainly not synonymous better ... ;-)
Antwort von Wiro:
@ Archimedes I can not think of anything that I have written to 6000 average. My recommendation at this very special case, CBR 7000, ratcheted up by superior knowledge manual to 8000. This opinion I still represent more ;-))) Greeting Wiro
Antwort von kerberos:
"Markus" wrote:
"Archimedes" wrote:
Comparison of lagging a little, just this "1 or 2 hp more than" Michael Schumacher made after all the 7-time World Champion. ;-)
Was not it to ordinary car wrench? - Or, in a figurative sense: DVD burning is not an Olympic sport in which it arrives at the last bit to come into the world rankings at number 1. A home video is thus certainly not synonymous better ... ;-)
Right.
I have a few clips with optimized modified (? Can pass) settings, and can actually find any significant differences.
There are in my videos do not really synonymous for an encoder difficult scenes, such as bad light or fast movements. When I look at the videos on the television, they differ not really of the band playing.
Perhaps I must, however, synonymous times to clean the glasses ....
Antwort von Archimedes:
@ Wiro: That was already clear. With the 6000 kbps average bitrate, I referred to the settings made of kerberos. With 7000 kbps CBR, you can then have lived.
But since all DVD players will cope with bit rates of 8000?
Next up was written that this has not always been so.
Antwort von Jörg:
Hi, The answer is clear: No, they do not come. For this reason, the above is synonymous to add anything new. The Experimentiererei is beautiful and good, you can rumprobieren wonderfully on (the) same old test equipment. Through a later hooked then s.anderen device to another date. Who burns only for their own account so no problem if it did not run. With commissioned work we can be very well served reserves. The five different views of 5 testers recruitment tests you can safely delete. Most are at least six. It will seem worse each qualified testers. We managed habens with 3 same clips so beyond an "Expert Group". But that is not on video s.sich limited, with Audio gehts much better. I've only seen the 2 time someone has stood up, shaking his head with the remark "I see absolutely no difference" rausmarschiert is. It is therefore likely to be synonymous correct remark comparing 8000 versus 8233.87. Gruß Jörg
Antwort von kerberos:
Then my test would be the 3rd Times been. For I have seen on my standard television synonymous no difference.
Compatibility I've got to feel yesterday.
One of my created DVD could be easily reproduced s.meinem player) on the player my friend (same Manufacturer but different model has the DVD did not make a sound (no disc).
Antwort von Jörg:
Welcome to the club, kerberos
Antwort von Markus:
"kerberos" wrote:
One of my created DVD could be easily reproduced s.meinem player) on the player my friend (same Manufacturer but different model has the DVD did not make a sound (no disc).
Well, and then explain the time a customer who has otherwise not a ghost of a technical understanding ... ;-)
Antwort von rolarocka:
Hello can someone explain to me why take time to run DVD's on all standalone players, and our homemade not ????? Condition encoder settings are correct - Good Rohling
Antwort von Markus:
"Guest" wrote:
... why take DVD's run on all standalone players, and our homemade not ?????
If you think professional DVDs with the pressed, then the difference with the burned ( "our DVD") is obvious.
But I can reassure you: even pressed DVDs do not play in any DVD players. Here, the compatibility is only significantly higher ...
Was there not even one or more DVD player - I think it was about older Pioneer player - the greater of a total of 8000 kbps bit rate tended to jerk? ;-)
If one were to consider the still synonymous with want, would be necessary to fix the maximum video bit rate even lower. Moreover, some encoders tend to set the max. Bitrate synonymous times already strong to beat, which in turn can lead to skip when playing. Then there is synonymous nor the blank problem. Not every disc is equally suited for a particular DVD Burners and for a specific DVD player.
In short, a hundred percent guarantee that the self-produced DVD synonymous everywhere is running, but you never. I encode camcorder footage with the Procoder Express always in 2 rounds with the bitrate settings 3500/6500/8500. I encode to AC3 audio with a bitrate of 256 kbps. When I pass on the rolling video on DVD, then I say always synonymous, that I was not a wholly playability (for the reasons mentioned above) can guarantee.
Antwort von kerberos:
"Markus" wrote:
"kerberos" wrote:
One of my created DVD could be easily reproduced s.meinem player) on the player my friend (same Manufacturer but different model has the DVD did not make a sound (no disc).
Well, and then explain the time a customer who has otherwise not a ghost of a technical understanding ... ;-)
Better not, then I would in my circle of friends no longer be done.
I have the DVD burner in my way, laid finalized, and lo and behold: It works perfectly synonymous in the second player.
Antwort von rolarocka:
Thanks Markus + Archimedes
Antwort von Markus:
I have done many compatibility tests before I landed at a certain disc: Verbatim 4x DVD-) R (regular and printable. The fit s.besten my 4x burners of Pioneer. The volume of returns is positive 1%. : D
However, soon be to new compatibility tests. The stock of my 4x blanks that is coming to an end. ;-(
Antwort von kerberos:
My writer is not the problem, but rather the DVD player on which the material is to be played.
Currently, I still have a spindle of Taiyo Yuden 16x here.
Does anybody know if there a connection between incompatibility with DVD players and gives the burn speed?
And anyway: Has something else to do with the subject?? ;-)
Antwort von Markus:
"kerberos" wrote:
Does anybody know if there a connection between incompatibility with DVD players and gives the burn speed?
Blanks and burners fit together for me already, but just does not seem to all players ...
Antwort von Markus:
"kerberos" wrote:
Blanks and burners fit together for me already, but just does not seem to all players ...
There are a number of other factors. To mark blanks usually run better than any No-name products. What is everything in the world, "Tayo Yuden? - The only times that as food for thought. ;-)
Are generally regarded as the best blanks, which are of some brands used.
But which are synonymous fake happy. This land umgelabelt Rohlin even in normal trading. Sun has sold times the median market for a while blanks of Princo, which should be properly Yuden. It was a cheap irgendso dirt, which were burned at about 50%.
