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Frage von alpha:


Hello,

there is a video editing software where I can cut footage and sound recordings together, the output of the finished film, however, is such that the video and the audio stream is not transcoded (rendered) is. The Videoseqenzen are as AVI (MJPG encoded) before and the Audioseqenzen as WAV. The output should then be almost back an AVI movie of the finished cut (Picture and Sound) contains. Most Vidoschnitt Programs do have the peculiarity that they can spend rendered the home movie only with its own encoder. But I would like to use my own codecs. eg divx. For I have the mpeg2 TMPGenc, which provides a very good quality.

Prinziepiell I could do this with VirtualDub. But maybe there is something else to cut even more comfortable, which corresponds to my needs.

Gruß,
Armin.

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Antwort von Gast:

So really any better editing program is able to export as an uncompressed AVI.
The rendering is the way, nothing to do with the encoding. Rendered the film is when changes are made s.Material (eg, effects or transitions) and these changes are considered in a real-time preview, or to be exported from the timeline out.

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Antwort von Marco:

"Rendered the film is when changes are made s.Material"

This applies to format that can be processed in the corresponding native editing systems, such as for DV, in most of us today in popular Schnittsytemen.
This applies to my knowledge, not - as in the case of Alpha described above - for M-JPEG. I then knew no adhoc editing system, the M-JPEG natively.

However, there are so massively nonlinear editing systems, the synonymous to DivX, MPEG-2, etc., can render. So there should be no problem to use any course editing system for them. The path through an intermediate is not essential.

Marco

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Antwort von alpha:

ok. I then got confused. Then I think the video should not be re-encoded. In principle, there must work Techniche synonymous with one MJPG encoded AVI. With VirtualDub, I've never done that already. I'm the first AVI loaded zurechtgeschnipselt and then append AVI segment with the next, and then then the next, etc. All the segments are AVI MJPG encoded. For audio I then selected a wav and wav audio file loaded. Then I just put on video and audio direct stream copy. When I save with s.avi all spend, spend is the same movie encoded MJPG. Audio is dazugemergt and also still has its original format. The problem is that the built-in encoder section of the program is often not so much good. Therefore I would like to stop with just cutting the average program. encode that I'd rather do with other tools.

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Antwort von Gast:

"Marco" wrote: This applies to format that can be processed in the corresponding native editing systems [...] [...] But I have not for M-JPEG. Of course you are absolutely right. I have no relation to MJPEG but really only wanted it out, that just does not render the same encoding.
And the fact that DV editing without rendering is not possible, however, encode without very much. If the interface software synonymous supports the original format as an export format. That would in this case of MJPEG-AVI to MJPEG-AVI.

Assume that the editing program would not be able to export the same output format, I would export as uncompressed AVI. Because this is the one of the most encoders accepted as a source format and is available for others - like - say, in most video editing programs as an export format.

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Antwort von alpha:

Thanks for the advice. I'll stop then just ask at the appropriate time producers whether the issue can speak in the original format. With an uncompressed output if necessary, I could live synonymous. Though the video will probably be very large. Therefore, I have indeed bought the MJPG codec. The capture of the analogue material is ideal because it does not appreciably affect the quality (if it is correct) but at a reasonable size for the cache on the hard drive is compressed.

I would like to participate einbaun synonymous 3d animation in the film. I could render even synonymous DV encoded. Is there a DV codec (s.besten free) to cope with all the tools. VirtualDub is not so as to cope with any DV codec. With VirtualDub, I have until now always generates DIVX movies.

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Antwort von Kellergeist:

Hi alpha,
You'll get an "old" editing program. Premiere 4.0 to 5.1 are best suited for this because they (almost) only be able to edit MJPEG AVIS. I also still analog (VHS) Material and am fully satisfied. Also 3D animations in avi format can be fitted. Oops, the file size must be below the 2-GB limit. Otherwise, an administration is not possible. Transcoding and you can join them later when you burn the DVD.

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Antwort von beiti:

Quote: Therefore, I have indeed bought the MJPG codec. The capture of the analogue material is ideal because it does not appreciably affect the quality (if it is correct) but at a reasonable size for the cache on the hard drive is compressed. Exactly the same purpose would fulfill a DV codec. Would also have the advantage, with any current editing software that is compatible to be () can be cut without recoding.

Quote: Is there a DV codec (s.besten free) to cope with all the tools. VirtualDub is not so as to cope with any DV codec. To here:
http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_14326114.html

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Antwort von alpha:

Thanks for the info. :-) I Werd's see if I get somewhere an older version of premiere. I once got the DV codec installed. I get time test if one makes reasonable quality. Da gibts so many I've seen. In part, are really expensive. Since it is probably already a different quality exist, between the DV codecs.

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Antwort von beiti:

I do not think that the DV codec differ significantly high. Much more important is the quality of digitization hardware.

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Antwort von alpha:

Thus, the capture does not in any way with the panasonic DV codec. 3D animations in my program, I can spend any video with the DV codec. (M-JPEG works) in VirtualDub, I can not select it when I'm in the capture mode. However, I can open DV videos with VirtualDub, and I can as synonymous, converts an M-JPEG video to DV. The DV video is slightly larger than the M-JPEG (quality on stage 19) and I imagine that the quality is slightly worse. Probably is the DV codec but rather for digital cameras. Since then I have to stay with M-JPEG.

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Antwort von beiti:

Quote: Thus, the capture does not in any way with the panasonic DV codec.
You have yet to reveal which way you get all your movies in the calculator. I suspect that not all hardware blends with any codec.

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Antwort von alpha:

I have a video card with a composite and an s-video input. The card has a Conexant 878A chip. And a Firewire port.

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vidoschnittkarte is actually not correct. More like a TV tuner card without.
The analog input composite films come on the map.

I guess because I need a card that has hardware side, the analog signal into a DV stream transforms. I think my card converts the analog signal simply in uncompressed frames. Thus, the software DV codec is probably not cope. With M-JPEG that works properly. In VirtualDub, I see in the capture mode, only a fraction of the installed codecs.

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these are really only the codecs that I've installed, with By raising the DV codecs.
In Filemodus all codecs are on display:

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Antwort von beiti:

Quote: More like a TV tuner card without. Yes, but a TV card does not have Firewire connector. Is therefore a very special part.

If the quality is in this analog inputs on the level of popular graphics cards, is not to expect much. And a codec that has a purely software-encode in real time, can never synonymous deliver top quality. (The codecs that are not appearing in Capturmode, perhaps not echtzeittauglich.)

As long as at least the Firewire connector is working correctly, I would think about an harwaremäßigen AD converter (eg Canopus ADVC55). That would solve multiple problems.

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Antwort von alpha:

Yes the ADVC55 Converter looks good. At sowas because I thought synonymous. Clearly, the outstanding quality of my video card does not, of course. I did so but already digitized some old VHS movies that showed out of the house had a diminished quality. Since then it's not as noticed. But thanks for the many notes :-)

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