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Frage von alexanderdergrosse:


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Antwort von High_Tension:

Hi,
s.sich a good idea ... but I have to score a couple of what to grumble / supplement:

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote:
- Cameras (no preference whatever Manufacturer) in the same price segment offer roughly a similar quality


The "about" would I write gaaanz bold because often the nuances between "good" and "ok" to decide.

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote:
- Resolution of at least nominal FullHD HDV, or at least his or ADVC
(DV / Pal are obsolete)


... rich but often perfectly adequate cause less computational burden, need less space and are on average cheaper than HD Cams .... so sweeping that one can not say mE

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote:
- Dig.Kameras s.Kaufpreis ~ thousands have to be good enough for television (not movies) to rotate as documentaries / TV movies / series


If you do not say that you have with such a Cam've rotated. However, most want a color depth of my knowledge what 4:2:2 DVCPro HD offers only. Since the cams go in 4500 (about) going on. You're right that the synonymous in the division "s.1000 ¬" falls, there is only a small hole between your money category and the actual price for bradcastfähige Cams.

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote:
- Cameras in the HDV format (~ 1Tsd price segment. In comparison to ~ 3-4Tsd.) Ähliche offer a quality, only the housing and cosmetics for manual settings are more expensive pronounced


Not to mention of the "upward always be better lenses (which ultimately make the Picture) and the possibility to modify certain parameters and then the Picture adapt their own ideas ... The only difference on cosmetics and manual control is runterzubrechen something superficially ...
It reminds me, that the lower Cams almost exclusively 1 / 4 inch chips (and often only one of them) while the more expensive models 1 / 3 inches (and these usually 3), which is the image quality worse vsbei light significantly improved.

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

The tutorial has the objective of "superficial" to advise, without compromising on technical Mikrokramm to talk. This would again especially for newcomers to make headaches and numerous other questions would follow. So is my intention "obeflächlich" to stay.

Quote: . rich but often perfectly adequate cause less computational burden,

I assume that people do not have old PCs and modern PCs have no problems to work with (who still has old PCs?)
except eee series. Size is good but a long-term investment must be. Therefore, it is considered the modern Pc and to be used to set FullHD recommended. Prices vary and change, it should be about. This is a rough-help at 1 Page.

Quote:
what the low light image quality vsbei significantly improved.

The light is the prerequisite of good pictures, for this reason, another surcharge on the equipment.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Anyone who still has old PC s?

EVERY 2nd and I know the people who Cams 1000 euro target scarce.

So flat you can make no statement.

Although HDV cams are recommended, I think that a "family father" with a DV Cam more than happy can be.
Especially when you "used" Cams envisaged by the part really bring with better options than, for example, 800 euros newest cameras.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

Your commitment to honor, but because of the deliberate superficiality, I fear that some of their own opposing statements contained in this advice tend to purchase additional confusion for beginners make. About turn, otherwise you can argue: "FullHD" (or was currently in the consumer sector, this descriptor is sold) I would not be such a major purchase criterion, but the statement
"alexanderdergrosse" wrote: ... for television, home, internet, streaming, Clipproduktion, advertising and DVD production reaches the inexpensive magnetic tape and FullHD format from ...
you should perhaps even be the first time on working ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von High_Tension:

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote:
The light is the prerequisite of good pictures, for this reason, another surcharge on the equipment.


Because I give you are absolutely right. This applies to the prosumer to professional area without any restriction. However, I think (or I hope) is not that a prosumer up such a tutorial for the camera takes the field. I see the audience in the consumer more of a good to very good camera for the private use of want to buy. And just as the least desire to deal with lighting. On this basis, the brightness of the lens but again a criterion.

Apart from that I think it is laudable, a simple purchase advice for beginners to make, but not with the hook that for the sake of simplicity important details out of it.

Perhaps it would be once a task with the help of active community such a simple tutorial for the camera to buy. The idea is definitely very good.

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

I thank you for the suggestions and will modify the tutorial that finally something is universal!

Quote: However, I think (or I hope) is not that a prosumer up such a tutorial for the camera takes the field.

I believe that many of the newcomers with a CameraLink search option to the professional sector and want something future-proof rang deal.
Everyone plays with the idea of private films in addition to something else synonymous "higher" try (Filmmaking, etc.).

15 years ago, I had one of the first Handycam and quality it was useless in low light but then it was good. Really amazing, I found that even with the old cameras in sunny day good results can arise. Today, after many technical advances, it does not take so long to choose, each cam is basically good, with plenty of light. Who but a cam for the next 5 years wants to buy and do not want to endlessly make any comparisons, then we should s.etwa 1Tsd. and in HD quality start.
(HD-Fenrseher stood before 2 years only a few, now it's like going to the loo, a Selbtsverständlichkeit)

Quote: Perhaps it would be once a task with the help of active community such a simple tutorial for the camera to buy. The idea is definitely very good.

This is a good idea, although limits might be, for example, the goal that I seek, is 1 universal tutorial 1 Page no longer exists.

Quote: Anyone who still has old PC s?
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Although HDV cams are recommended, I think that a "family father" with a DV Cam more than happy can be.
Especially when you "used" Cams envisaged by the part really bring with better options than, for example, 800 euros newest cameras.


Old PCs were manufactured prior to 2000, then later would be. Well, this is a point where the buyer must ask, "old slow Pc VS. New."
(My PC is 4 years old with little RAM and can easily handle HDV) (other incredible thing is that I have with 150MHz Pentium music tracks were produced).
Long-term investment is important, I think.
(Have yourself a very long sought, and sought that when the time together, I calculate that would have made better films, lost search time)

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I will be the tutorial s.and modify, with the whole 1 sheet werdne be.
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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote: ... am of the opinion that many of the newcomers with a CameraLink search option to the professional field ... Everyone plays with the idea of private films in addition to something else synonymous "higher" to try ...
Do you really? The vast majority of beginner questions here in this forum revolves around small camcorder to 300 euros for holidays or children's memories - professional aspirations in the broadest sense should have None of the buyers. If the maximum purchase advice should take a page, then I would s.deiner place exactly on this circle and its knowledge Crop: The mention of 35mm film or requirements for movies and TV productions in this context is superfluous. Then two separate Kaufberatung prefer: one for the above entry, and a second for film makers with more ambition.
Three suggestions but I can still contribute the same:
"alexanderdergrosse" wrote: ... or at least HDV ADVC ...
The new format called AVCHD (Advanced Video Codec High Definition).
"alexanderdergrosse" wrote: ... newer Cams ~ 1 to offer a thousand s.HD related quality ...
Do you mean the SD cameras? HD cameras offer so in this sense always "HD quality".
"alexanderdergrosse" wrote: ... for private recordings ranging from several watts bulbs ...
Room lighting of this type is for Cheap camcorder, to the point here, with almost Lowlight video for inexperienced newcomers rather disappointing results. Perhaps it would be a good idea, with a corresponding reference in the purchase advice too much to dampen expectations.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

Berndt Hi, thanks for the correction, have been improved.
Have other things synonymous repaired.

Quote: 35mm film or requirements for Movies and TV productions in this context is superfluous.

It is precisely those questions that are frequently asked (after hunting 35mm Loook).

Quote: Room lighting of this type is for Cheap camcorder, which is here

Have undergone several hundred watts bulbs, that's when everything must be assumed that private entrants and filmmakers no light, or want to lug.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hi
To purchase such an advice to make you have to the whole list with a split divisions according to Consumer, Pro Consumer, indie filmmakers, professional, etc. to create. (Possibly Beginners)

Also need to format disks (storage media) and accessories are listed.

All in all I think the times without an external Page created here in this way no vernümpftige basic information you will create.

Your last statement to the light can assume that you ZERO clue regarding lighting, accessories, etc. did.

Just as an example:

Light can and must be divided between
- DIY Light (Baustrahler Styropur brighteners etc.
- Head Light
- Portable light (usually set of 3 stands plus lamps plus Softbox / reflector, etc.)
- Fixed lights / headlights PAR / Light Bank etc.

The various light sources (neon tubes, LEDs, lamps, etc.) beyond the scope of the quickly understandable.

Also light and color temperature play a role here.

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So I would first gather information, then according to various criteria and SOTI List.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS. At Commodore systems could have "Flash-like" Clips / create banners ;-) (synonymous Music).

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

Quote: Your last statement to the light can assume that you ZERO clue regarding lighting, accessories, etc. did.

For beginners, the only one cam and want to take film to light without the need to lug. See synonymous the 3-point lighting with umbrellas, the bloody Beginners would certainly not want to lug. As a final "exception" may be a rescue several hundred watt bulb act.

PSUnd well, I know of light. It is beautiful and good, with good lighting that is better, but if someone in the consumer area hotspots or other chunky stuff with tow will be (at a wedding), which is very questionable. In a wedding room, I had never been with a lot of people want to leave light, it submitted a 400Watt light bulb as a last resort and I was inconspicuous as it should be, that the celebrants were real emotions and not to light Schüchternsein stood in the headlights. Light is the a and o, I did not doubt. In addition to the advice I have lighting equipment as an alternative written.

Before here again a flame war starts or someone other down will make, I suggest that you have a version here write. (ZERO comments are superfluous).
It is a short compact instructions, no technical Kramsach.

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