Frage von yellowcam:
Hello!
This is my first contribution, I have read for weeks here with, but really smart, I am not yet become.
Actually, I myself have been so abgefunden me the CANON XL2 to buy. In most forums and amounts are told "you can not go wrong" - is this correct?
- After exactly one sows studied formally, if you are with the matter not know: o)
Basically I would like a lot of Internet movies, Imagefime (DVD / CD), producing commercials, etc..
The Canon XL2 has no "HDV".
Where could restrict me, which has the disadvantages?
- Should you be here for a better HDV Cam decide?
Do you have an alternative to the Canon XL2, which (apart from price) is simply better quality?
One more thing ':
- What speaks against it, in my case, not a used XL1 model to take? If this theory be enough?
I'm grateful about each contribution.
yellowcam
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi
Well actually you can with the XL2 nothing wrong ...... is naturally assumed that you have experience with cameras ..... the XL series may already be Semi Pro class will be .... With Plug 'n Play has only to do something.
For the things that make you want to be synonymous a HV20 / 30 range.
HDV / HDTV and what ever it is only conditionally Net I fit, but you would have a camera, the future is secure.
If you really want to only once in the XL2 is a Filmerei only conditionally recommended.
It is quite a good camera, is synonymous with the good work.
Accordingly, you can be here only to advise an election.
The XL1 is not a model which I would still recommend that it is the view from collectors.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
I am a different opinion - I think the camera in today's sense, as difficult usable.
It looks like a shoulder camera, but it bears not so. The users I know have a XL 1, 1s, or 2 certificate, have very rarely of the interchangeable lens option, some have more than the wide.
I do not currently as it is expensive, but for 4000-5000 ¬ (adoption), I would definitely buy something else.
XL 1, I would recommend even less.
I've now even the XL 1s - and a friend of synonymous - at the Panasonic GS 500 (700 ¬ Consumer) in a theater or concert by rotation - the images were later merged. It is surprisingly much, that the Canon images were rather poor. It is simply too old.
Now, like the newer XL 2 da better.
SonyPMW-EX1, SonyHVR-Z7, possibly the Panasonic HVX 200, I would assume since.
If there is a shoulder camera must then save a little and take the SonyHVR - S 270th
If the price is still lower than this, take the Canon XH A 1 with the presets of the trunk, so you do not do anything wrong synonymous.
For me the XL Series a pseudo-shoulder camera - sorry for s.die XL lovers. I have been with the series never really warm.
VG
Jan
Antwort von yellowcam:
For the things that make you want to be synonymous a HV20 / 30 range.
hmm, that is a cam for 300-400Euro.
Can you really make good recordings?
- If it is, I have a SonyPC8, I imagine the 3-4 years for 900Euro bought.
I just wanted to make what Professional.
A cam which is characterized by a sharp Picture impressed.
If you really want to only once in the XL2 is a Filmerei only conditionally recommended.
How do you do that, with the Plug & Play?
I photograph as many years. I know you are really good photos with the "standard" settings gets.
Do you that?
Thank you for your answer!
Antwort von yellowcam:
I am a different opinion - I think the camera in today's sense, as difficult usable.
How do you that, from today's meaning hard ...?
- But you make good pictures?
- Provides certainly the right and advanced controls?
.... have very few of the interchangeable lens option, some have more than the wide.
That I already suspected.
What is it with the other cams (for example, your alternative proposals) these cover the entire focal length range from good?
SonyPMW-EX1, SonyHVR-Z7, possibly the Panasonic HVX 200, I would assume since.
If there is a shoulder camera must then save a little and take the SonyHVR - S 270th
Unfortunately, everything was far too high priced for me.
4000 Euro is the absolute threshold of pain.
Should I still buy a bunch of accessories (tripod, mic, lighting .....)
Thank you for your answer!
Antwort von Jan:
Well then the XH A 1 32,5 mm was if I remember rightly the focal of Optics - sometimes that's enough for most situations.
The XL 2 is a valuable and well-equipped camera, but it is believe that a 576i PAL Camera. The really bad shoulder of the XL Series have been synonymous here criticized several users.
Sometime you may want synonymous times elicit high definition signals. Then, the XH A 1 for the right price. XLR synonymous and it has a multitude of manual controls (gamma, Knee & Color Matrix etc).
For an Internet movie or a PAL DVD, the XL 2, but not for more. Ich hab grad seen the XL 2's for 3200 ¬ - the price is gone down to eat.
Since I lately with many HD camcorders have filmed, can be difficult to me for a PAL Camera convincing. Except for me with the SonyDSR PD 170 - because they are with XLR and for a PAL camera in the price class for making bombs Picture - especially Lowlight.
If you then look at the sharpness of a XH A 1 - or other HD Camera - have seen, do you want to possibly have not synonymous, unless your images are for Web & PAL DVDs thought.
VG
Jan
Antwort von PowerMac:
So at times the butter fish. There is incorrect or unclear in your contributions, seeker! With "hard," said Jan "seriously usable". It is s.schwer, shitty of the weight distribution and b) it is only SD. It looks great, but is equally good as smaller cameras. Uses interchangeable lenses, hardly anyone in the XL-series of Canon. Will actually a very good SD Picture. However, I would personally rather a greater and discarded DVCAM Camera (DSR-or synonymous of the 5100er JVC) buy a new XL2 in 2008. But why on SD? SD is dead right in first image films. (Or you produce these shitty commercials and image in the regional TV Oberbeuern south behind the seven mountains run?) You need HD. The EX1 is much better. You write "with a sharp Picture impressed." Picture sharpness uneven impression. A synonymous Digibeta is not so sharp crack like a consumer HD camera, but much better from the whole picture. Sharpness is s.sich little. Next, the HV20 does not cost 300 euros, as you claim. 700-800 euros are. Would you have researched something, you knew that the HV20 as "the" secret tip amongst scenic filmers applies. Your PC8 is not outlines a comparison of them. So: under HDV is nothing more. Purchase s.besten of the Canon XH A1 or the Money EX1. Or save a lot of money and buy the HV30.
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Antwort von Jan:
So it could be synonymous articulate!
Thanks Powermac.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
So: under HDV is nothing more. Purchase s.besten of the Canon XH A1 or the Money EX1. Or save a lot of money and buy the HV30. * sign *
SD, I would now only on one condition restricted recommend you get a CameraLink saubillig with all manual controls, will immediately begin to have at the moment but no money. The XM2 is simply out of saubillig and beyond.
And even this "recommendation" only with a lot of reservation because a HDV camera, you can quite effectively synonymous finance.
Antwort von yellowcam:
Thank you s.alle answerer ...
According to research, and because I as soon as possible "the right" Camera would like to buy, I (IHR MICH), to decide and would buy Canon XH A1.
- The price is ok (for this, I can certainly a good product / quality expected), but what could look like the SonyEX1 more?
Why is it so expensive cameras?
What can you 6000euro with a model with more than a 1000euro Cam? (Processing, recording quality, functions, filters, etc. - what does it look like?)
One or two questions on the Canon XH A1:
You know whether the synonymous in 16.9 format aufimmt?
- In the sheets, only the LCD 16:9 represents?
There are some new cams directly on the possibility of hard to write, supports the XH A1 synonymous?
The transfer of data is done via FireWire, or?
Is it so synonymous record in slow motion?
So for example every second 1Bild and over a longer time (10 minute).
Would jendenfall to a function which I gladly would have.
You know of problems through the microphone?
- Camera-strong self-noise, etc.?
What is it with this plug & play on history itself?
- Should we first days studying until you get a recording-how, or what was meant?
Best Regards s.alle ...
yellowcam
Antwort von DWUA:
Hello yellowcam,
a "nice" slow motion starts with 150 pictures per second.
The Andreas Kieling, for example, uses such a device sometimes.
But not always.
If you want to gather the time, you can do every day 3 photos
and do you have for a year 3 x 365 images.
Why so expensive?
No clue.
Is probably little demand.
Mach's gut!
:)
ps
The most important:
If the picture is too dark, the protective cap from the lens to ...
Antwort von B.DeKid:
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After searching, .... I ......" the right "Camera would like to buy, I have decided ..... ....... to buy Canon XH A1. This is probably the better choice.
........- The price is ok (for this, I can certainly a good product / quality expected), but what could look like the SonyEX1 more?
Why is it so expensive cameras?
What can you 6000euro with a model with more than a 1000euro Cam? (Processing, recording quality, functions, filters, etc. - what does it look like?) Yes you will get top goods, whether Sony or Canon in the price league, you're both good companies located ..... Why Expensive - Better - Bigger
= Depends on the claims, the target audience, the quality and the prestige. ;-)
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One or two questions on the Canon XH A1:
You know whether the synonymous in 16.9 format aufimmt?
- In the sheets, only the LCD 16:9 represents?
There are some new cams directly on the possibility of hard to write, supports the XH A1 synonymous?
The transfer of data is done via FireWire, or? Yes - of which should be started. It is applied to each case record 16:9.
The capture to hard drive via firewire is made with Softwear.
Is synonymous with S Video or RCA possible. Thus it is with the XH A1 are synonymous.
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K ann is so synonymous in slow motion recording?
So for example every second 1Bild and over a longer time (10 minute).
Would jendenfall to a function which I gladly would have.
Hui ... wonder what da .... As more of a yes Time Lapse mode with means. Just as some SonyCams the offer, a certain number of frames every few seconds just to draw ......... slow motion would have more than 25 pictures per second .....
But I think it is the latest via Softwear perhaps could solve. But interesting question.
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You know of problems through the microphone?
- Camera-strong self-noise, etc.?
An external Micro is always advisable if there is one possible use.
I think that this is with a Canon or Sony with a relatively equal always behaves .... especially when drawing on tape on cameras.
........
What is it with this plug & play on history itself?
- Should we first days studying until you get a recording-how, or what was meant?
* Grins * That you have now had made aback ..... ;-)
Well I thought so ...
.... a camera like the XL 2, is plug 'n play "options", aimed as it may prove satisfactory, .... but it does not in any way a plug 'n play "device" is.
A camera of this price class is always a lot of different settings, which can be synonymous in peace must be appropriated.
But this is with all of the cameras say we Consumer Semi Pro Class .... if you can call.
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Best Regards s.alle ...
yellowcam Yes I think you do with the XH A1 a good grip.
Your ideas of commercials and short movies I Net, so you can come even closer.
Only one of the creative nun'mehr then, the camera will do your best to adapt to the circumstances the best possible picture to conjure.
And I see in a XH A1 anyway the Little Sister of the XL series. The Shots have been interpreted with a ebenwürdige Camera necessary in smaller packing made / provided continued.
Alla I wish what you like and have fun with the camera, you should have him.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... What can you with a 6000euro model with more than a 1000euro Cam ... Specify ;-) But joking aside: You've mentioned the reasons themselves. More expensive cameras - and in the professional area would be 6,000 euros more synonymous nor the beginner class - offer more possibilities for faster operation (switch instead of the menu), go to the higher quality optics, or more other inputs and outputs, usually a more robust processing, etc., etc. Not always do we need all this, but it works with a large shoulder camera is a totally different than the one with handles camera. That does not give you the joy s.der letting XH-A1: She is in her class which is currently best thing you can get and an absolute buy.
... to the Canon XH A1 ... Do you know whether the synonymous in 16.9 format aufimmt? ... Since it is in HD 4:3 area is generally no longer exists, is synonymous the XH-A1 in the 16:9 format.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Markus:
... if you look at the matter with not know: o) I just wanted to make what Professional. Most beginners think that the quality of a video is directly linked with the purchase of a video camera along. The more expensive the camera, the more professional the resulting film! - However, this is a mistake and quickly leads to expensive bad (sorry, is very direct, but may save you the same issues).
For example: If a professional a cheap disposable camcorder according to all rules of art, then the layman immediately: these are professional shots. Runs on the other hand, a camcorder Beginners (no preference how expensive it was), then the layman also immediately: This is a beginners video. - But why is this so obvious, even though the professional in this example, even a cheap camcorder was?
This is that video recordings for several aspects of the Beginners and fully and completely on the last point and focus ones:
[list] 1 The cameraman is familiar with the subject composition of white and apply this knowledge synonymous. What is important is not just
that something in the picture can be seen, but synonymous
where and how big it is placed in the Picture.
2. The cameraman knows
what he's filming, so that the audience later the contents can follow, without being bored or confused to be. There is a thread to perform an act, a drama - and although during the recording.
3. Depending on the need to proper support, such as Camera Tripods, dollies, cranes, Steadycam, etc. are used. Camera movements are not "fluffy loose from the hand." Moreover, it builds not on the effect of a movement alone (in terms of effect), but the picture always displays relating to and / or to act owned content.
4. There will always be respected in the light, so that the picture is very vivid. In case of need come reflectors and / or headlights are used.
5. Even the sound is not too short, because it is not insignificant accessory, as is often assumed, but often the main point is even not in the Sound and Picture.
6. Only now, after the above score, the technical quality, with a camcorder can be achieved for application. Without the other aspects would, however, only a third hands-free video with bad Windgepolter emerged as one of many Gelegenheitsfilmern it knows. In this case, it is synonymous, no matter whether it is in 4:3 or 16:9, or in standard or high definition has been rotated. [/ List: u: 6441603e0f] In short: It is not primarily the Camera, the image is generated.
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
Why is it so expensive cameras?
You can with a four-man crew plus equipment either in a ausgelutschten Panda n.zum turning the 300 drive, or in a combination of the upper class. In fact, we have both already made and the difference is ... unbelievable. You come in two vehicles to their destination, one wonders just how.
Similarly, when the cameras. For Billgheimern everything you can experience:
- Blurred images from open-aperture (workaround "Aperture" with all the attendant disadvantages)
- Noise s.mäßiger already brightness (ie, you need vast amounts s.Extralicht and erschlägst so perhaps the mood lighting),
- Bad Image Stabilization (ergo Zitterspinne pictures where the camera even without shoulder stability barely wobbles)
- Controls shitty achievable, if at all ... So you turn to automatic and hope that what was useful in what comes out.
In fact the list is endless. In the hands of the professionals
we can perhaps with a shitty camera was a little reach, but synonymous professional and can not conjure up from the glass block a Zeiss Optics makes.
We have with us a Sony with a heavy 5-digit amount is swallowed. In the hands of a very gifted artist camera (which I count myself to explicitly
not), is the indescribable: the work is considerably more pleasant of the hand, bottom line is faster and the customer can
see the difference.
