Frage von Moritzk:
Hello dear friends camcorder and film,
I ask for your
Council and to your
opinions. I would like to see next week SonyHDR-SR11E buy, and then with several of these short films, documentaries and other things turn.
I am aware that there are no ultra Proffesionele Camera, but I think next to give you is exactly right.
Nevertheless, I would like, even before the purchase to rate your opinions here.
Request for records of owners of SonyHDR-SR11E, something about dealing with this Camera zuerfahren.
Hoffe but synonymous to Pro and Contra messages.
I am grateful for every second you for your reply s.mich take.
Greetings to Moritz
Antwort von Kino:
..., And then with several of these short films, documentaries and other Saxony rotate. ...
Very nice! Want synonymous in the western film?
Or is that the next poll? ;-)
To Camera, I can not contribute.
Greetings from the "Middle East"
Christoph
+ + +
Antwort von Kino:
twice
Antwort von Moritzk:
Oops ... there was a mistake s.meinem Pc ... it's late ...
Asking for answers about ... thanks
Antwort von heimax:
As you can see the survey are 2 / 3 of respondents think the camera is recommended. I own it for about a year ago, and they would immediately buy.
Vorausstzung is a powerful calculator, and a entsprechendses Program, the AVCHD files.
Most negative reports obtained by the users of Camera of hearsay know.
Mainly movies I dogs during training, so fast movements and never had problems.
Gruss mags
Antwort von Videofactory:
Hello,
I have not the HDR SR 11E, but the SR 12E, so what the functions of her completely equal.
I am with the camera is also very satisfied.
What I miss a little, is a manual audio control of external microphone, the automatic works quite passable.
What I still miss a little, clear values. Have they never needed initially synonymous, but with time one would like to maybe make exact settings, what with a bar graph is not perfectly resolved.
Ultimately still annoys me that the shutter speed can not adjust.
However, I am with the camera very satisfied and recommend it very clear next.
And if you with your shooting (yes, I do not know exactly what you want, such as film) to a precise setting of the aperture and shutter speed can abstain, you will be synonymous with the Camera have no trouble.
Test pictures and videos you can find the Camera
Antwort von Moritzk:
As you can see the survey are 2 / 3 of respondents think the camera is recommended. I own it for about a year ago, and they would immediately buy.
Vorausstzung is a powerful calculator, and a entsprechendses Program, the AVCHD files.
Most negative reports obtained by the users of Camera of hearsay know.
Mainly movies I dogs during training, so fast movements and never had problems.
Gruss mags So first thank you for your notice and Tips,
So I've recently bought a new calculator ... but I wonder now whether he is fit synonymous AVCHD.
I'll give you times and the data so you can say something about this.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400@3.00GHz11
Mainboard Gigabyte P35-S3G
4x 1024 MB RAM
Ati Radeon HD 3600 Series 512mb
500 GB hard drive with 32mb Cach
340 Gb hard drive with 64 mb Cach
So I think the rich should be ... or you need more info.
I'm curious about your answer.
Liebe Grüße
Antwort von deti:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400@3.00GHz11
...
Goes great.
Deti
Antwort von Moritzk:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400@3.00GHz11
...
Goes great.
Deti Really ... das freut mich :-)
From experience I said? Or yourself these Pc?
Liebe Grüße.
Can anyone else what to SonyHDR-SR11E.
Antwort von deti:
From experience I said? Or yourself these Pc?
Is this in use. For cutting, we use Sony Vegas.
For the Sony camera, I can not say much - in the price category, we have only Canon - because I got a little more for your money.
Deti
Antwort von Moritzk:
Cool :-) I am covered my Pc would be too slow for editing AVCHD ... How can you say to an export of a 20-minute film takes?
Antwort von RickyMartini:
I have a Q6600 @ 3GHz in use.
I use "Edius NEO" and "Sony Vegas MS. With a 6:20 min long video takes to render with Vegas m2ts after about 26min. However, only about three cores used.
Dennach should render time with you for a 20min video probably take 2 hours.
I would be better to use a Canon, because the BQ of Sony Not Canon comes out and the AF of Sony Very often behaves well.
When can the Lowlight Picture of Sony Stark blur. The SR12 and HF100, I can test in parallel, so in my opinion at any time based verifiable results (comparison pictures).
Antwort von otzelot:
Hello!
I have SR11e the synonymous. Previously I had the CX6.
The SR11 is not the ultimate, but for the money a great Camera.
I am disturbed at the AutoFocus-optimal light conditions somewhat. as he ever has problems with the Sharpen. But that was when cx6 no different.
I have tried various programs cut and can say: nimmSony Vegas movie studio, or if you are you can afford the pro version.
the sony software is to zb pinnacle Studio 12 a lot faster.
the pinnacle takes forever if you want a lot of scenes in the timeline lie there. that makes no fun mehr.Mit Pinnacle I had often synonymous crash.
I have an Intel Core 2 Quad 6600@2.7 GHz with 4GB Ram.
The funzt quite well.
I have no other parallel to the camera my test, so I can not compare. I would like the SR11 but buy again.
Antwort von Moritzk:
Now I am sure you will laugh ... but I stand by it.
So I always cut with products of Magix, and had me over the years it normally.
Has someone already experience with Magix Video Pro X done? How does the program with the process of AVCHD cope.
Antwort von heimax:
I have the SR 11 and Magix and work with both 15 and VdL Pro X, I have installed. Depending on what I want, I work with one of deuces. The projects are always with both open. With a Core 2 Quad 2.66, both to cope. Pro X rather a little better.
For easy cutting, I still on the laptop of Power Producer Cyberlink installed.
Any talk of not clean working autofocus, I can not confirm. We film very often in halls and I am always amazed by the image quality not so good light.
As already mentioned, I would buy it again, especially if you both times to take hand in Sonyfühlt the value of simple.
Gruss mags
Antwort von Moritzk:
And the programs come with the Hd well or get AVCHD editing?
How long does it take for the export of Magix Video Pro X, and a 20 min long movie AVCHD?
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Sonyfühlt in the simple value of Maybe yes, perhaps the color is synonymous nice camera ...
For me, other technical characteristics of film as a hobby more important, such as:
- Good contrast coping
- Manual time code
- Manual aperture preselection
- Manual Tonaussteuerung
- Good manual Focusierung
- Manually change exposure
- Manual White Balance
- Good OIS
- Fast Auto Focus
- Passable weak light at 60 lux features object illumination
- Good LCD monitor, especially in direct sunshine
- Viewfinder
- Good archiving opportunity
Enjoy your decision!
Antwort von Moritzk:
And that has everything SonyHDR-Sr11E not?
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
I would at times simply the specification of the camera watching, not in the bakery.
Antwort von Moritzk:
What are you talking about for a fool? On your "fabulous" spells I can think of each refrain.
Ciao
Antwort von heimax:
The export of a movie, edited in AVCHD and then exported into MPG2 suitable for creating a DVD takes about the same time the movie lasts. Depending on how many crossfades, effects, or music you attach a little faster or slower.
About the only thing I would not manual can influence the Tonaussteuerung. The display is superior to all others, as well as the Lowligth properties in this price range
The Comparison of synonymous Slashcam speaks very clearly for the SR11.
Greetings from the mountains Helvetic mags
Antwort von Moritzk:
And how big is the loss of quality in the export of AVCHD to MPEG-2?
Is the quality still be HD?
How big is because ungefair a 30 minute long film recorded in AVCHD when he is in mpeg-2 is exported
Antwort von heimax:
The loss depends on the sighting device. At a tube TV, it is not observed. On a Full HD television, it is to see if I am with the DVD player, with the PS3 you will see almost no difference. The 30 Miutige movie is in mpg, depending on the setting in Magix to 2 GB for a DVD at Resolutionfür greater resolution times must I first look. But the film had already computer down. Tomorrow will (have Clear) came to see and report.
At today's prices for external hard disks, I am actually no preference how big the files are intended for viewing the films, I have a device name WD TV (the link is here: http://www.wdc.com/de/products/products.asp?driveid=572) the device is a plasma HD ready and I'm connected with the quality of the output very satisfied.
Small note, originally I was in the graphic arts industry as a relatively sophisticated and well known.
Gruss mags
Antwort von Moritzk:
The loss depends on the sighting device. At a tube TV, it is not observed. On a Full HD television, it is to see if I am with the DVD player, with the PS3 you will see almost no difference. The 30 Miutige movie is in mpg, depending on the setting in Magix to 2 GB for a DVD at Resolutionfür greater resolution times must I first look. But the film had already computer down. Tomorrow will (have Clear) came to see and report.
At today's prices for external hard disks, I am actually no preference how big the files are intended for viewing the films, I have a device name WD TV (the link is here: http://www.wdc.com/de/products/products.asp?driveid=572) the device is a plasma HD ready and I'm connected with the quality of the output very satisfied.
Small note, originally I was in the graphic arts industry as a relatively sophisticated and well known.
Wow, thought for a AVCHD movie would never in a bekommen.Bin dvd Very pleased with all the positive messages you habt.Ich made me hope it works in reality synonymous so well with my Pc, the work with AVCHD and Magix Video Pro X
Gruss mags .
Antwort von heimax:
Small Note:
I cut in AVCHD and burn the movie in DVD quality with the means of Resolutionvon 720/578, to be passed.
For me, nor do I export in Resolution1440/1080 as mpg around with the TV to WD. My plasma is not HD Ready and Full HD.
The attached program is synonymous PMB AVCHD DVD `s, which are then on the PS to be in super quality.
Gruss mags
Antwort von Moritzk:
Thanks for the tips.
And can the DVDs with this program were created, synonymous to a regular DVD player or just the PS3, or is synonymous Ps2?
Antwort von Videofactory:
A normal DVD player is definitely not synonymous am very sure that the PS 2 that do not play.
But I could imagine that a Blu-Ray player that can play.
Otherwise, only the PC and PS3.
Antwort von Moritzk:
Well next is not bad,
I then export the AVCHD movie is in Mpeg-2 and Brenne you on a standard DVD.
For the last Röhrenfernsehr it all. And I think the quality is still pretty good.
Thanks
Antwort von heimax:
That is correct, these AVCHD DVDs can only be on the appropriate players. These are Blue Ray Player, PS 3 and PC. On the tube TV so the quality is similar to Purchase DVD `s.
Gruss mags
Antwort von Moritzk:
Yes that's enough for me at first synonymous.
So sometime in the next few months, I will certainly synonymous to buy a better TV.
But the stands at last on the list now :-) erstmal ne important new camera :-)
Antwort von stepa:
I have the SR11 and synonymous what really bothers me is the built-in Microphone. The thing with me constantly overridden.
As a tip, I would recommend the Zoom synonymous Micro off. That sound you zoom along with the picture ran. In my former Panasonic was the perfect, which unfortunately get in the moment no longer be decent picture.
So just the normal sound recording and the picture is crisp anyway. However, the AF synonymous times already and also has problems with the focus.
That went on for me as I for example, from the plane window and wanted to film the disc with water droplets was full. The camera always tried the water droplets are not too sharp but what I really wanted to film.
So sometimes it even went in sunny weather.
Excluding these two deficiencies, then one has but a very good camera. That with the Micro, you can use an external remedy.
Antwort von Rolf Hankel:
The loss depends on the sighting device. At a tube TV, it is not observed. On a Full HD television, it is to see if I am with the DVD player, with the PS3 you will see almost no difference. The 30 Miutige movie is in mpg, depending on the setting in Magix to 2 GB for a DVD at Resolutionfür greater resolution times must I first look. But the film had already computer down. Tomorrow will (have Clear) came to see and report.
At today's prices for external hard disks, I am actually no preference how big the files are intended for viewing the films, I have a device name WD TV (the link is here: http://www.wdc.com/de/products/products.asp?driveid=572) the device is a plasma HD ready and I'm connected with the quality of the output very satisfied.
Small note, originally I was in the graphic arts industry as a relatively sophisticated and well known.
Gruss mags Hello
That means, you're with with the Western Digital Media Player satisfied?
In what format to save you because of your hard drive s.um film on the WD Media Player to view the Television?
Gruss Rolf ...
Antwort von r.p.television:
The SR11 or SR12 is synonymous in Comparison to an HF100 or HF10 Canon of really bad. And then synonymous nor is much more expensive. Absolutely incomprehensible.
Anyone who still buys except Sonyscheinbar has nothing on the plan.
Have customers of the B-roll footage of two cameras get in the car without the supervision of Fashion Tripod mitgefilmt have. The HF100 and an SR-11. The material of the SR-11 went into the bin. It was much too dark, blurred and constantly simply unusable. The HF100 material on the other hand, was surprisingly sharp, colorfast and unverrauscht.
Were shot pyro effects in a somewhat dark factory floor.
The SR-11 has any effect Pyro pulled blurred and overexposed. Thereafter, she was also too dark and blurred.
Antwort von domain:
So when a request to a specific camera model launches, then you are probably your own fault, because there is always the same namely confusing result comes out.
Everyone is of course from his personal experience somehow right.
Blöd only that there is not a good camera and there are all the other crap, the video then life could be so easy.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
The SR11 or SR12 is synonymous in Comparison to an HF100 or HF10 Canon of really bad. And then synonymous nor is much more expensive. Absolutely incomprehensible.
Anyone who still buys except Sonyscheinbar has nothing on the plan.
Have customers of the B-roll footage of two cameras get in the car without the supervision of Fashion Tripod mitgefilmt have. The HF100 and an SR-11. The material of the SR-11 went into the bin. It was much too dark, blurred and constantly simply unusable. The HF100 material on the other hand, was surprisingly sharp, colorfast and unverrauscht.
Were shot pyro effects in a somewhat dark factory floor.
The SR-11 has any effect Pyro pulled blurred and overexposed. Thereafter, she was also too dark and blurred. This reflects exactly my experience again! The SR12 and HF100, I have for two weeks for free, with my HF100 has pledged immediately. The SR12 has me very disturbed that the AF and immediately proceed with the Picture Lowlight partly to an undefined soup is dilapidated.
The HF100 is the AF very safe, the high brightness, strong colors and the menu navigation much clearer.
First, I wanted so synonymous get the SR11, but then I was extremely happy about my decision in favor of HF100.
Here I have my first video with the HF100 - for Lowlight:
I have Recorded with the cinema mode, where the image noise is significantly lower than in standard mode. With the camera functions to the recording, I was still not very familiar, since I do not have many opportunities offered, to make a video.
I advise to clear HF100!
Antwort von deti:
... and I give my speakers score well in all right. The Canons are worlds better to what the picture quality is concerned! Only the zebra function and a better display would be desirable features.
Deti
Antwort von RickyMartini:
... and I give my speakers score well in all right. The Canons are worlds better to what the picture quality is concerned! Only the zebra function and a better display would be desirable features.
Deti I admit that I did in spite of nearly SR12 displays 1MPixel unfinished brought clean to manual sharp. : (
This is probably only reasonable with the viewfinders (on Hi8 times so I had no problems:)).
Antwort von stepa:
As I said, the partially synonymous my experiences. Problems with the AF and the sound is bad. If I have a AVCHD DVD and take over my surround system to hear, I must even extra subwoofer off because the drones do not endure.
From the pure image quality, I would not say which is worse than SR11/12 of the Canon. The Canon HF10 and HG20 both times I was able to spend a week testing. The AF was much better, the pure image quality, I found the same.
The sound, however, was with the Canon models like worlds better than the SR11.
Lowlight In turn, I found the Canon 's a little better. But I can with the Sony Relatively good IR shots and synonymous with the slow motion of what has for itself.
What I do not understand is that the various test Magazines SR11 a good sound and certify as a Panasonic SD9 not. Also, I was able to test and must say that the Panasonic really sound in class, in contrast to the picture quality.
I would be here synonymous time a JVC HD30/40 interested, but that is another matter.
If, however, the test results of the camcorder, such as viewing video such as Active JVC GZ-HD7 still s.oberster place and here at Slashcam only a "Sufficient" is, one wonders how such Meßunterschiede already come to pass.
Antwort von domain:
Here's a nice kitschy Picture of the JVC HD40 in mpeg2 Full HD filmed.
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pool15gp6.jpg
Sound is flawless, but she has uskeinen viewfinders and no way to fix the exposure (either displayed or aperture time-code).
The Image Stabilization elimiert the trembling hand perfect but bigger Wobbler may not occur.
Antwort von Moritzk:
Is it synonymous here on someone of the SonySR11 or 12 for doing so?
Also in the journals, she mostly with "Very Good" has been evaluated, so my purchase was synonymous established.
Antwort von heimax:
s.Rolf
I'm Midem WD TV very satisfied, but only since I have cable via HDMI s.den Television've connected.
Still what difference Canon Sony.
I have for years for a Japanese company sold printing presses. The same machine was under a different name of an English company sold. Nevertheless, there was the printer, only one wanted to buy, because the better.
The same wine tastes different from the bottle better. Canon fan will never zugegben that is Sonyebensogut and vice versa is not SonyFan good qualities of the Canon grant.
So synonymous, I see the different opinions of the testers as to not objectively. This is so synonymous with me.
Gruss mags
Antwort von jonnyy2b:
Hello
interested me, synonymous for a new Camera. Do I have extensively with the HF100 and SR11/CR11 busy!
In advance, I would say I am also a JVC MG-mz505 and from a Canon A1 Hi8 had.
Canon works like the previous speaker, together with S, always! From my Hi8, I was super excited wiklich (4500DM) in sharpness and picture, then slowly until they died! And thus began the Great surprise with Canon! Service pfui daibel what I've written those letters, well I've vowed never again Canon! Trozdem I will try to remain objective.
The image quality of both cameras is very good, but they have different strengths. When shooting in bright room accounts, I find no differences. The sharpness make both quickly, with Sony already times goes too far and comes back again. But who is often times film that wants to turn himself s.der sharpness and it requires a good display! The Schärferad is what I was missing s.allen camcorders and display! At 30cm thick scenes of my Lederjake removed, the Canon has a strange kriseln (was synonymous parallel on an LCD Television plitzende almost points to see) that the Sony has much better represented.
In the dark I could unfortunately not for free!
Of the buttons and the processing and the features that I liked the Sony's much better, although I must say it with the Canon without direct manual set goes.
I just do not know whether I have the SR11 and CR11 should take, because to me when I delete the the JVC hard drive is always very difficult. Also I think the battery life significantly longer than when we Festplattentyp. But I think that I, as sharpness fanatics around the display does not get round and if you want to look at what the holiday wishes, then the larger, darker screen actually makes the decision.
Jonnyy2b
Antwort von RickyMartini:
I did, since I have been with Hi8 movies, always Sonyverwendet in MiniDV as it was then. However AVCHD models, the HF100 is the SR11/12 clearly superior in image quality.
So I decided for the Canon! ;)
Antwort von jonnyy2b:
Hi
what do you mean with "clearly superior"? I think the tests of Slashcam for very Lens and there has actually not really a weakness. You must ultimately decide for themselves wellche the right. When I read what some claims for manual adjustments of an amateur camcorder so wish, you should buy a Professional who needs the fact! I think however that many who claim here, these features do not need or never use it.
My cousin works independently as a cameraman for film and each scene is given over to pingelichste measured. Distance 1, 2nd .. Exposures gemmessen .. and then rotate the manual set and changed. Who can shoot something at home I wonder? Therefore brige synonymous me something no numerical values. If you are still useful (from my experience) Dynamic Range Optimization and then wants to think there's someone s.der Exposure turn, agrees probably nothing more. The small Obejektive s.den Canon or Sony camcorders have no high margin for large aperture adjusters synonymous and thus no large time ranges. This will tend to be quite electronical regulated!
If someone else here claims to know what it is not for the cameras> 5000EU there! And who needs all this needed not synonymous then HF100 or SR11!
For me, the Sony is precisely with these improvements, which I've always excited and this is mainly the sharpness. Take for instance a child aufnehemn wants to play or would like in low light conditions s.einem table filming and the sharpness pumt constantly, since it is neither manual nor on the screen correctly, then tell me which is the much more useful. Sharp movies are simply the Haupsache. On my JVC vote often Weßabgleich and not until then that has made the whole thing is gone. So I see the mini as an amateur.
Furthermore, the Canon Hi8 tests was always loud in front of the Sony.
Had really nice of your real experiences to write your HF100 and wasa You / Your so so so macht.
jonnyy2b
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Static pictures of test subjects can not nunnmal with videos of real recording situations - therefore, I believe my direct comparison of SR12 and HF100 for much aussagekrätiger.
The extreme weakness of the focus of the Sony models is synonymous thee elsewhere in the forum and Internet address. Lowlight For Sonydas Picture blurred even when extreme. All that I could not watch the HF100.
Antwort von jonnyy2b:
Sorry,
but how else do you want the tests. What light conditions GEST because you look like? The Slashcam testers have yet a running wheel! So there is the HF10/100 no better! Where did you make comparisons because you / see you? Synonymous sollche I would want to test! In addition, I have effect in the display of the 100 recognized only when I had seen s.LCD.
Maybe we can take as times?
jonnyy2b
Antwort von RickyMartini:
The HF100 I bought the SR12, I was able to borrow for 14 days. Both camcorders I then almost parallel to the small family gathering test.
The screenshots were with Edius NEO in JPEG format zustzlich made to bitmap version.
WARNING - the screenshots indicate in any way the image quality of moving back! In the moving image the differences are much greater. The SR12 rauscht significantly, while the HF100 only slight Grieseln shows.
It is synonymous that the SR11 can fade the colors (SR12_2).
The leaves of the Christmas star, the SR12 only poorly resolved and the
Rotrauschen is extreme -
in moving!
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Sorry,
but how else do you want the tests. What light conditions GEST because you look like? The Slashcam testers have yet a running wheel! ... Moreover, I have effect in the display of the 100 recognized only when I had seen s.LCD.
Maybe we can take as times?
jonnyy2b The Current Wheel is not meaningful enough.
What is the
italicized sentence? My screenshots can the noise behavior of a camcorder does not show much - this is the original high-quality recordings or copies with other codecs needed.
Antwort von deti:
Purely from an economic point of view, I would at almost the same power of two products always cheaper to use. After all, such a camera model, perhaps 1-2 years in the state of the art. This is a more expensive model for the same time become obsolete, thus the value of loss is greater.
Conclusion: Canon HF100 is better than SonySR11 - Untechnical entirely justified ;-)
Deti
Antwort von jonnyy2b:
Sorry,
but how else do you want the tests. What light conditions GEST because you look like? The Slashcam testers have yet a running wheel! ... Moreover, I have effect in the display of the 100 recognized only when I had seen s.LCD.
Maybe we can take as times?
jonnyy2b
The Current Wheel is not meaningful enough.
What is the italicized sentence?
My screenshots can the noise behavior of a camcorder does not show much - this is the original high-quality recordings or copies with other codecs needed. The italicized sentence is from my next test in the above described business, where I SR11 was compared with HF11. I have in the brightly lit room on my black leather jacket and filmed where the lightning struck the TV pixels. First look at the right on the LCD viewfinders, I then recognized synonymous. Do not know where the noise came from is? The Sonyhat in the same light, distances himself and zoom view not done so.
Sorry I had the Sony a lot of variety of sound than the Canon! Unfortunately, I have no pictures in darker areas can do.
The scheme has been sharpening my eye because I used to s.meiner Canon always synonymous with the hand was rotated, one needs only to turn a high-resolution viewfinders!
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Yes, the massive clear Sonyist - just a "block". :)
The Viewfinder has the Canon synonymous advance, as is the much higher-resolution display.
However, the Canon delivers sharper images with clearly better AF.
Antwort von deti:
@ RickyMartini:
Oh let it be good - the Sonysynonymous times be a little turnover can after we are already in the Conumerklasse remained abstinent.
Deti
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Moritzk has brought the SR11, which is why this Fred probably no longer relevant enough.
Antwort von jonnyy2b:
@ RickyMartini:
Oh let it be good - the Sonysynonymous times be a little turnover can after we are already in the Conumerklasse remained abstinent.
Deti Sorry Ricky,
Posts sollche but you should verkneiffen! We are here but not in the nursery school in spite of phase!
Actually, I would like nothing bad here, but only with hartneckigen questions s.sehr meaningful details of the camcorder out to get what for now is better than ... . For whoever asks unwilkührlich not remain stupid!
