Infoseite // 10 pixels error when used by the Camera Dealers



Frage von dieterbecker:


how many defective pixels are used in appliances because usual?

my (ebay) sellers (German retailer) says pixel errors were quite common.

in lowlight / gain and attached lens sees my viewfinder like a starry sky.

a total of 10 visible pixel errors exist, and some larger (and white) and some smaller (and darker).

in the (ebay) text was nothing of pixel errors, only "best condition".

because the sellers do not synonymous defective pixel detected, it must probably be on the itinerary is being me.

do you have in your (used) cameras synonymous pixel error?

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Antwort von Dongball:

So in my XM1 I had one (1) pixel error on the screen, but only at the conclusion synonymous.

My VX2100 has no (0) errors.
I hardly think the pixel errors' made by usual 'are.
Surely something can be broken, but 10 is definitely too much.

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Antwort von rush:

pixel errors are always ugly and 10 pieces in various sizes würd ich schon s.sstörend more sense, especially if you then Kunkler building has areas where the white point all the more noticeable ...

and is therefore normally not synonymous, I would now just say so ... got my mini-dv now over 2 years and synonymous with transported anywhere etc. .. no visible pixel errors.

if it is a dealer, then I would try to complain or exchange / money back if possible ...

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Antwort von rtzbild:

Aloha,

with a flat-TV is in the warranty card:
Pixel errors, despite the best possible production is not always possible and in accordance with the state of the art ".
To do this, nor any indication percent.

Whether the synonymous chips applies for admission? No. IMHO, IANAL

Olli

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Antwort von Forumgeist:

Good morning

During the warranty card of EU goods is usually the pixel error as written above are not really avoidable.
Ie If you have a camcorder or digital still camera and buy these (S) device (s) have on your CCD one (owned) Pixel error, looks very bleak. As would be the well-kept contact dealer to help the manufacturer, like any other supplier is not obliged to you this device, the exchange or to reimburse the money back! (I think some manufacturer can use the LCD monitor up to 50 pixels on CCD somewhat less, but are usually referred values%).
Pixel errors can not be run under wear but are errors on the part of the production.

From your text reads Herraus not only whether the error in the viewfinder or synonymous to the recordings ... this must not necessarily be the case (may be synonymous to the viewfinder so defective), check the recordings docherstmal, errors in the viewfinder would be very annoying but if the CCD is ok .... go just like that.

Spirit Forum

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Antwort von PeterM:

Pixel error on the host chip in my opinion are unacceptable if they are disruptive. A new camera is usually different than a LCD monitor no visible pixel defects. As a rule, not because the CCD 's error-free but because of production pei the pixels of the CCD fault in the firmware are entered and then off. On the defective pixels are then interpolated values written. Pixel errors in camcorder say beyond Billigstklasse are almost always later. Something else applies for digicams. Here occur in long-exposure pixel errors. The corresponding cell is not kaput but provides more background noise so that even if the chip is warm bright pixels shown.
Just as you describe it seems already to be cluster errors (the errors are of different sizes. Sowas my opinion, is definitely unacceptable. Ultimately, it will be used in a synonymous relation to the purchase price Neupreis arrive. When a former 1000 Euro for the kamerea 250 Euro is sold. will you have one or the other pixels have to accept mistakes. But surely if and only if the Kamerea to properly use it, what errors or clusters with very many regular pixel error can be excluded

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Antwort von Alpinist:

It is but the first question is where the Pixelfeheler. In the first post was suspected that it is on display at the last s.Aufnahmechip.

For the Viewfinder / Display, a pixel defect class. This is a normal TFT monitor, the high class II devices can be synonymous, but a class-I-certification (no error allowed). The now Viewfinder display or are significantly smaller (that is synonymous not so prone to error), should have much more equipment to class I have.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixelfehler

However, if the host chip is faulty (eg, 'sky' s.externen monitor) as it should be said to be a reason for complaint.

As the synonymous was 10 pixels mistakes are already exterm much (on the display class III or IV) and therefore anything other than 'best condition'. If the seller says it would happen during the journey, it is his problem not yours to determine.
-> Send Back.

Regards

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http://www.alpinisten.info/
http://www.gipfelsammler.de/

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Antwort von rtzbild:

Aloha,

IMHO the problem is that a pixel error monitor as a "relatively" represents, it is not the recording sour, but the playback medium.

However, if the chip is verhagelt are sämliche recordings verpixelt ...

A continuous, error-resistant, I would not accept synonymous.

Mach doch mal test shots, a short video clip, one to two pictures in the Photo function (if any), then look again.

Or pump your "work" time on the server, then you can imagine what more.

Cost chip swap?
Update Pixel Mapping?

What cam we discussed here?

HTH

LG Olli

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Antwort von dieterbecker:

thanks for the reply now.

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Antwort von nl01:

Na bingo, it is a dealer ... but then make the "distance law" and use it just send it back again.

Do not let any of Klausen like 'exchange excluded bla bla' confuse.
As a dealer he can & can not do that. You're there in the better position

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Antwort von rtzbild:

Other auction, but beautifully illustrated:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270068144441

Fine device Chen ...

Rundgefragt time, one knows what such a chip swap cost?

Olli
* The smaller the more inconspicuous *

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Antwort von Alpinist:

"Dieter Becker" wrote: the error are on the chip, because the color is all top.
As I said, 10 pieces (varying in size and light) I count when the lens is covered (for gain / lolux).

Varies considerably in size means more pixels are affected.
Small example: the 'big' error pixels an edge length of three normal pixels, which already makes mistakes 9 pixels!

"Dieter Becker" wrote: what do you think?
Distance Selling Act -> within 14 days to send back! (and even after the deadline, you have good chances but much more effort)

Or a different way: would you as a broadcaster in the material of the Camera to buy? Probably not, right?

Regards

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http://www.alpinisten.info/
http://www.gipfelsammler.de/

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Antwort von PowerMac:

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Antwort von rtzbild:

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PowerMac,

You trolls!

Learn to please read and understand or drinking any other brand:

Whether the synonymous chips applies for admission? No. IMHO, IANAL

IANAL: I Am Not A Lawyer = I'm not a lawyer.

HTH

Olli

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