Infoseite // 2Mpixel (HDC-96E) which I have many of the pixels in Comparison to HDV?



Frage von Heidilein:


Hello,

I want me a new growth camcorder (Hi8 had already) and am a problem to me until now nobody was able to answer ... not even the dealer
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Beipspiele:
Behind "/" are an indication of the net number of pixels in 16:9

HDV-CC
SonyHDR-HC5E / 1,430,000
SonyHDR-HC7E / 2,280,000

DV-CC
SonyDCR-HC96E / 2,057,000
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I have shared with the DV-CC Aulösung higher than for HDV camcorders.
Why should we then make a HDV to buy?
Probably because the pixels are expected to be down and therefore not reach the tape, but what happens then with the whole pixels of HC96E?

Serves 2MPixel this hype in the hochpixeligen DV-CC 's only
to Kundenverarsche? PAL has even a Resolutionvon max. 1024 * 576 at 16:9, which would be around 590,000 pixels. HDTV has 1920 * 1080 max at 16:9, that would be 2,073,600 pixels.

Now the real question:
That the 2MPixel of HC96E not on a normal TV can be shown to me is obvious. But what has the PC like this and maybe an HDTV television or become synonymous since only 590,000 pixels represented? What I have so of the extra pixels and the size has such a video on the PC? Also only 590,000 px?

Thank you ever know if someone

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Antwort von HeikoS:

Probably has a built in Photo sub-function.
DV remains, no preference what you do you anschaust always 720x576.
Theoretically, could the extra pixels on the chip to be used Alias | Wavefront Mayastrukturen (Treppchen Education s.diagonalen lines) to minimize, by, as you already suspect with high Resolutionabgetastet down and then is expected. But I doubt it
Another sense of more pixels: reception area for Electronic Image Stabilization

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Antwort von Jan:

According to my information (JVC & Panasonic Promo Pictures)
calculates only the chain of s.Ende DV Signalumwandler to 720x576 = 414,720 pixels down previously, the internal camera software - Anti-noise filter, RGB processing, edge sharpness and color processing, sensor s.Anfang after the AD converter.

So effectively SonyHC 96 already with 2 million, which s.Ende back to SD PAL standard is used. Sounds synonymous of feeling so otherwise would Sonyniemals of 2 million effective pixels speak if not in the chain s.Anfang really would be available. I think it's similar to cars that are abgeregelt. Reason for SD MiniDV cameras must have the DV standard, simply because the system is required.

Your recorded Picture of the HC 96 is definitely the SD PAL 720x576 specifications - no more. As with every model in between, I had passed through here a few times trying to find searches:

Building a 1 chip camera

But even if Wikipedia is not fully clear evidence.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von HeikoS:

But yes we should see in the finished picture, can anyone confirm?

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Antwort von Jan:

I have documentation of several companies, such as promotional material for the JVC GR PD 1 - as was the path from the CCD to IR Signalumwandler fully drawn and explained.

I said yes is a dangerous issue, since the companies rarely reveal their inner workings.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Jan:

Somehow, however, synonymous explanatory.

Why has the HC 96 is still 2 million pixels left over after the loss of the surface stabilizer, according sony.de synonymous in video mode.

Why then the DV signal converter (which there definitely), or what other benefits should not meet when the incoming signal to convert to 720x576? Good question may be how much are synonymous when it comes to?

Yes the question is entitled because it says so in the HDV material at 576x720 Camera runterkonvertiert often looks better than pure PAL - at least for the FX 1 - on the FX 7 takes not more.

But counter-question: "Is the clear sharpness Farbvorsprung a HC & 96 only s.der improved optics, sensors and the larger of the RGB filters of the 400,000 net to the initial camera Sony HC 23 to
explain?

VG
Jan

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Antwort von HeikoS:

Hab mir jetzt mal NEN test read. Sharpness is very good, so it might actually seem to be that an oversampling occurs.

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Antwort von Heidilein:

"Jan" wrote: According to my information (JVC & Panasonic Promo Pictures)
calculates only the chain of s.Ende DV Signalumwandler to 720x576 = 414,720 pixels down previously, the internal camera software - Anti-noise filter, RGB processing, edge sharpness and color processing, sensor s.Anfang after the AD converter.

So effectively SonyHC 96 already with 2 million, which s.Ende back to SD PAL standard is used. Sounds synonymous of feeling so otherwise would Sonyniemals of 2 million effective pixels speak if not in the chain s.Anfang really would be available.
Your recorded Picture of the HC 96 is definitely the SD PAL 720x576 specifications - no more.


First thanks for the replies, I am pleased that so much response to my question do:)

The issue with pixel effekiven I understand synonymous still not entirely successful. Sony writes on the website of the HC96E 3.310.000Pixel gross, the net (ie effective) 2,057,000 pixels are indicated with (Camera mode and 16:9).
Between gross and net are already 1.3 million Pixel flutes and then again until it is 1.5 million to the Resolution Kommt Pal. Must ja ne tolle his error:)

But ok, it's so. I was just glad that at least some of my PC this 2Mio Resolutionhat. Then I can probably forget it and will have access to a HDV. Background is that my PAL resolution is simply too coarse for me to like optical and who knows how long it will take until my Pal Television still nice ... then comes an HDTV anyway ago.

Nochwas: Is it here or in the I-Net an example of the movie with the rotated was HC96E? Only at times ankucken ... maybe it's not as bad as I think I am:)
From MMarkt I had recently published a JVC GZ-MG67 and to try out with the video is me trying the plank driven horror in the face how badly such a PAL video is really ... Pixelated for oscillating and otherwise synonymous fairly coarse, almost like my mobile phone
... maybe it was simply synonymous JVC s.den.

LG, Heidilein

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Antwort von Heidilein:

Sorry for my spelling mistakes!
Wanted to correct, but do not edit: /

When Wiki is under resolution:

PAL widescreen 1024 × 576 = 16:9
PAL 768 × 576 4:3, 16:9

For CC will probably only last at the HC96E and then somehow use the 16:9 aspect ratio stretched / squashed?
What happen to have the owner of a HC96E? ;)

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Antwort von Heidilein:

"HeikoS" wrote: Hab mir jetzt mal NEN test read. Sharpness is very good, so it might actually seem to be that an oversampling occurs.

Do you have a link for me?

LG, Heidilein

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Heidilein" wrote: do not edit
You're not logged synonymous ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Heidilein:

"Bernd E." wrote: "Heidilein" wrote: do not edit
You're not logged synonymous ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.


* shame *
Achso .... na dann mach ich halt the times:)

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Antwort von HeikoS:

Camcorderinfo.com

The JVC, which thou hast given, hochkomprimiert draws on, so the pixels in pans and modest image quality. This was with the PAL standard erstmal nix to do.

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Antwort von Heidilein:

"HeikoS" wrote: Camcorderinfo.com

The JVC, which thou hast given, hochkomprimiert draws on, so the pixels in pans and modest image quality. This was with the PAL standard erstmal nix to do.


As you can see something the guys in MMarkt are worth ... nix!
The handsome young man told me that the JVC is recommended since it is the Greater Light Lens and better quality ... allegedly ... naja ich hab's halt believed ^ ^ That's why I left the Sony Stand!

Nevertheless, I will tomorrow bring the HC3, will cost at 1099 ¬ Expert .. little more than a network that I have a contact synonymous if not as pretty as in MM;)

Thanks again and s.alle up soon .. the issues determined to die with me not:)

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Antwort von Jan:

Exactly Heidilein with the 16 / 9 at SonyHC 96th A video shrink to get the very cheap letterbox mode, it has not. A wide advantage but you can see already in the 96th HC

With the 3 to 2 million pixels is not so difficult, not without reason Sonyhat the best stabilizers. You simply use a large area of the sensor and it is 1 / 3 Resolutionbei HC 96 lost. Because of the extended 16 / 9 mode, the camera is once again needed a little space, so the 1 million loss to explain well.

There are not many companies with 800,000 pixels of which only 400,000 left - I now just gross to net.

It was formerly synonymous so that the light increased with JVC Camera zb F 1.2 has the edge in the digital world but has been partially modified
CCD Size & technology, signal processor, internal SW synonymous Lens have a very important influence.

@ HeikoS - Yes, I am synonymous not 100% sure the issue is very prikär and never really explained. Nutz Sonydie 3 million in the CCD really only for pictures, I know s.Ende come out at 720x576 video? Sonykönnte as synonymous with the current models, only a 2 million chip used (HC 5) and by Pixel Shift Photos with 4 million to obtain.

When the camera with the 2 million would have to actually work but the material is relatively similar to one of the captured HDV Camera downkonertierten Pal 720x576 recording his. Let the HDV HC 3 It is similar in the basic equipment for HC 96 - 1 / 3 "sensor, RGB filter, I think, however, the HC 3 Material downkonvertiert looks better than the HC Studio 96.

Has anyone here ever downkonvertiertes HC 3 Material against the HC of 94 / 96 made?

What Really resolution in the HC 96 in the middle chain is used, I think I can only guess. The CCD of the HC 96 2 million, and net pixel has s.Ende DV Signalumwandler to 720x576 makes is probably the truth.

Questions about questions ...

VG
Jan

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