Frage von Limbi:
Hey folks
Small problem.
Have a holiday video with the HDR SR - 1 rotated. I had some raw 5h what I now turn to 3h processed or gecuttet have. Now I want those 3 hours in the best possible HD quality rausrendern. With the CineForm plugin, I am extremely satisfied, but there is the problem that the maximum file size of 2GB (for AVI files) can not be exceeded.
What I tuhe there?
Is there a way to teach Vegas, he was to the project into several smaller auto clips subdivide, so the file size of 2GB never be exceeded?
Or you can send me a format other than AVI recommend, but the quality is maintained? Perhaps even the info that I am in this case, the quality is more important than a small file.
Thank you!
Antwort von robbie:
1. You should get your video to less than one hour. Who should leave 3 hours for video?
2. Issue zrück on tape is probably the best quality that you can have.
Schöne Grüße,
Robbie
Antwort von wolfgang:
If you have 2 GB of items, then you can just manually set as a loop regions - but it is rather cumbersome. Moreover, because the Intermediate codec files so the massive size, compared with both synonymous HDV2 as AVCHD files. I would rather not do so.
I suspect you are using Vegas 7e - because only that can handle AVCHD of SR1. If you are out of there to mpeg2 with the HDV2 (1080 50i) stencil render, and there is still the render quality to "best" and the quality level to the maximum value (30 or 31) ask, then you have the best possible quality is largely preserved. You get to hold over 30 GB m2t material on the hard drive, 2 GB limit, but because there are none. The m2t material synonymous has the advantage that it is of some output devices today can play high resolution - for example by the TViX HD.
Output as AVCHD is currently in Vegas 7e still not been provided, which is back on the camcorder could play back. Therefore, rather than the output HDV2.
If you have the material already for a later authoring BluRay rausrendern want, then I would take the mpeg2 template / BlueRay use. The loud Sonywith all works, now available BluRay authoring tools (I have not tested). An additional unknown but here are the defaults - the templates are only available for 24p and 60i are available. While it is easy, the 50i even to tinker with templates, but how then later in the authoring will behave, I do not know exactly. A discussion we had about this here:
http://www.vegasvideo.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=7049&boardid=10&sid =
Should you later for the material as a BluRay AVCHD render, so I would not miss the entire project with all files on a hard drive excavate. Which this option will eventually become available.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Three hours vacation video? I tu me hard, more than 20 minutes VOX Tours to ... I would defend myself against such a video, even if it is of my best friend would be ...
Antwort von Limbi:
1. You should get your video to less than one hour. Who should leave 3 hours for video?
2. Issue zrück on tape is probably the best quality that you can have.
Schöne Grüße,
Robbie 1. Haha do not worry. The pictures are really funny and has become part include really nice pictures. And of course, not everything is viewed s.einem piece ... ;)
2. Hm tape is not in this case. The SonyHDR SR-1 is directly to hard drive on. Unfortunately, the Sony Vegas zurückrendern to M2TS not ... But hey what time do we live here that you do not have 3 hours of film in good quality can be saved?
So there's really no alternative as a source of individual scenes rauszurendern?
Antwort von Chrise:
If you have 2 GB of items, then you can just manually set as a loop regions - but it is rather cumbersome. Moreover, because the Intermediate codec files so the massive size, compared with both synonymous HDV2 as AVCHD files. I would rather not do so.
I suspect you are using Vegas 7e - because only that can handle AVCHD of SR1. If you are out of there to mpeg2 with the HDV2 (1080 50i) stencil render, and there is still the render quality to "best" and the quality level to the maximum value (30 or 31) ask, then you have the best possible quality is largely preserved. You get to hold over 30 GB m2t material on the hard drive, 2 GB limit, but because there are none. The m2t material synonymous has the advantage that it is of some output devices today can play high resolution - for example by the TViX HD.
Output as AVCHD is currently in Vegas 7e still not been provided, which is back on the camcorder could play back. Therefore, rather than the output HDV2.
If you have the material already for a later authoring BluRay rausrendern want, then I would take the mpeg2 template / BlueRay use. The loud Sonywith all works, now available BluRay authoring tools (I have not tested). An additional unknown but here are the defaults - the templates are only available for 24p and 60i are available. While it is easy, the 50i even to tinker with templates, but how then later in the authoring will behave, I do not know exactly. A discussion we had about this here:
http://www.vegasvideo.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=7049&boardid=10&sid =
Should you later for the material as a BluRay AVCHD render, so I would not miss the entire project with all files on a hard drive excavate. Which this option will eventually become available. Thank you for the detailed info! Then I will probably be satisfied with MPEG2. If the quality of MPEG2 nearly ran s.CineForm?
Antwort von wolfgang:
S.deiner I would not necessarily have Cineform times go, unless the calculator is for AVCHD rather weak (which easily can be). Vegas 7e AVCHD natively can capture.
The Cineform Intermediate codec is a codec - means that it is designed eigentlch that one of there to other rendering formats. Good vorrausgesetzt Render settings (see above), you will not have any substantial difference between the Cineform Intermediate and see the final product.
And I do not say that there are no Qualitätsdrop. But the Qualitätsdrop is already happening, namely the conversion of AVCHD to Cineform Intermediate material.
Powermac And I must legally give the best Holiday with film is 3 hours too long, because not even hold the best of friends. It may be that you yourselves for such a long version would retain. But s.Freunde and relatives is not herzeigbar. If you do not believe, but simply probiers ... (duck and away).
Antwort von Limbi:
Achso no because you have misunderstood me. The film is only for the family and because we are all in this film, we of course look like a slightly longer movie ... :)
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My goodness. For MPEG2 is far too much set. Can you maybe I still say if the default settings for MPEG2 largely in order, or (except in the quality level) other settings should be modified in order to achieve maximum quality?
Thank you!
Antwort von Duisburger:
Try it out a small part when you will see whether the quality for you so is in order.
Antwort von Limbi:
@ Duisburger Jo're right ...
Hey, but says times: Right now I have a 25GB large AVI file can render with the CineForm codec! Is it because I OpenDML (AVI version 2.0) was activated? Was very surprised that Vegas now for 6 hours to render an AVI file that was without the message was' Maximum size reached ...".
Can one explain this to me? Is it possible now but a big 2GB AVI file to render? Does this now any disadvantages?
The film seems in any case good to run! I wonder now whether this was coincidence, or whether I shall now do. Because that was just the first half, which I once again - just with OpenDML activated - have tried to render.
Antwort von Chrise:
restrictions on the file sizes I know of only
win2000 (files up to 4gb) and over 130gb harddisk
and of FAT32 (up to 2gb files).
gruß cj
Antwort von Limbi:
But if I OpenDML (AVI version 2.0) is not enabled, is synonymous with me (XP Pro, NTFS) with 2GB conclusion ...
Antwort von Limbi:
Can anyone of you still to confirm quickly that if OpenDML (AVI version 2.0) is enabled, then that the AVI file can be arbitrarily large?
Antwort von Valentino:
Oh how beautiful is one of the first customers to remember them at the Media Markt and Co sold the last one we Measures. I think almost everyone here in the forum, an HDV camera would not have an AVCHD camcorder freiwllig gift wish to have.
This is the flipside of times Loser band recording in HDV, I turn to buy me a new MiniDV tape and play the movie as DV tape to the back. If so then in a few years, the first combi HD DVD and BluRay burner for around 200 euros on the market, it is certainly not a problem in the whole AVCHD too strenuous and directly to disk to burn.
My tip, render it just as HDV2 from the system but krüze out and ask the movie to an hour. I myself find it hard some scenes from a film to be cut but if you want to watch everything, I would simply repeal the original material. You have to stop now instead of DV tape just a few external hard disks to buy and store all the movies.
Good luck ;-)
Ps: I would s.deiner place that I look back at the camera ebay sell and give an HV20 or if it umbendingt with his hard drive, a JVC HD7 of zulgegen.
Antwort von wolfgang:
My goodness. For MPEG2 is far too much set. Can you maybe I still say if the default settings for MPEG2 largely in order, or (except in the quality level) other settings should be modified in order to achieve maximum quality?
Did I have long said above - you must only read it yourself
Antwort von Limbi:
@ wolfgang: Yes that's true already. So I had your attitude synonymous with the quality level is cited. "Apart from the quality level." Because there are advanced settings, but I already saw myself that the quality with the default settings is absolutely sufficient.
@ Valentino: Schön, the topic that we expand so far ...
But in the following score you have right:
In the media market has been unable seller. My seller of SR1 had assured me it would be no problem, the recorded material to be cut. And that was in February. I have days until I found that it is entirely possible and not at all the captured clips to be cut. At the time I give you rather I was highly dissatisfied with the Camera. But since May and has thus the ability to finally recorded clips can be cut, and I am absolutely 100% satisfied with the Camera. Such that their DV tapes so revered, I can not quite understand, you are indeed synonymous, for example in photography from film loosened, probably with the very simple reason, the clips quickly and flexibly to the next PC to be able to.
The main argument for the SR1 camera was that I started filming it, without regard to transfer and tapes available to do.
For BluRay and HD-DVD do I take care of at the moment still no great interest because: We have a projector, the laptop is connected s.einem. This notebook is available in the Network and therefore integrated with my home PCs connected s.dem all the materials I Cutter. Then, after I finished the cutter clip directly onto the notebook and the film finally s.Beamer view.
Now we are s.den reason for this thread arrived. "How do I get the best possible quality at the projector, without the use of BlueRay, without the use of HD-DVD and without the use of the camera. So just using a codec" ...
Sunday now knows her my CV and hope that I get to the question earlier of whether the AVI version 2.0 can be arbitrarily large, simply with "yes" or with "no" reply.
You must me so mad, but I have something very geiles found:
Deinterlace Interpolate using leads to unpleasant movements, but to sharper images. But what if the clip into 50fps progressive rausrendern it? Hey! I think you have something in between, that is half and half blend interpolate. Clips are still relatively sharp and the movement is much more pleasant perceived.
I would be still interested in what you would make of it.
Please do not forget that, as mentioned above I have no regard for the size of the file will take. Thus, the idea that only geeks to recommend ...
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Antwort von robbie:
Well, not really who can archive, which unfortunately seems to BE a 3-hour monster movie from the last holiday cut, because, yes, the Rohaufnahmen are Festplattencamcordern lost if you do not buy some external hard disks.
Otherwise, if the movie you really in the best possible quality in a file to render, then offers Vegas but a bunch of formats.
You have then just play on your PC synonymous nor the above are correct codec. But the tip itself remains probably continue HDV2 ...
apart of the professional - codecs, but then yes, you can not play again ...
Schöne Grüße,
Antwort von Marco:
"Can anyone of you still to confirm quickly that if OpenDML (AVI version 2.0) is enabled, then that the AVI file can be arbitrarily large?" Yes, this is so. I have already asked why you have this entry ever had off, because in the standard, this entry is - for good reason - is activated. 2.0 An AVI can be on NTFS hard disks so great that it is only a theoretical restriction.
There are, however, synonymous Vegas Script for solutions with which auto video files with certain length restrictions can render. But that should in this case, then yes superfluous. A 3-hour shooting as AVI 2.0 s.einem piece render is not a problem.
Marco
Antwort von wolfgang:
Now we are s.den reason for this thread arrived. "How do I get the best possible quality at the projector, without the use of BlueRay, without the use of HD-DVD and without the use of the camera. So just using a codec" ...
Deinterlace Interpolate using leads to unpleasant movements, but to sharper images. But what if the clip into 50fps progressive rausrendern it? Hey! I think you have something in between, that is half and half blend interpolate. Clips are still relatively sharp and the movement is much more pleasant perceived.
So the projector with the did you beat us so far - is not it? This one is already the question of what can actually Resolutionder Beamer. Is it 720p, 720 25p, 1080i, 1080p.
And what connection you have the projector from the PC ansteuerst would be synonymous still good to know.
I would basically synonymous consider whether the material I ever deinterlace. Normally, the projector will do something quite synonymous, if it for video presentations designed.
Antwort von Limbi:
The projector has a Resolutionvon 1280x1024 and can therefore show a maximum of 720p. Therefore, the film is synonymous in 720p rausgerendert. Furthermore, the projector using VGA images and übrigends runs at 60hz.
Yes, I had 2.0 AVI off, including me because I somehow could not imagine ... One can say that my laziness to read Renderfaqs not to have led to this thread.
So Conclusion:
- AVI 2.0
- CineForm codec 720p at 50fps
- Quality: Best
These settings lead to the best result. Although an immense increase in rendering time and file size, make a sharp and pleasant Movie ...
Antwort von wolfgang:
This is actually rather ridiculous, the Cineform codec is not intended as a final format. I would for this projector to 720 25p rather than mpeg2 render.
