Frage von JonnyStalker:
hi people,
I now have a 35 mm adapter on
ebay & bought hope I have now made any errors!
So the salesman said that this adapter is exactly what I need, so I told him what I had before.
He said that I no longer need stepup ring or something but,
only a nikon 35 mm objective and then I can go for it in the 35 mm
to shoot film look.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapters-Nikon-zu- Canon XL1 XL-XL1s-XL2-XLH1-Kameras_W0QQitemZ310155853645QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Elektronik_Computer_Foto_Camcorder_Foto_Camcorderzubeh% C3% B6r_PM? Item4836babf4d hash = & _trksid = p3286.c0.m14
This is the link to the adapter!
lg
Antwort von JonasB:
This is not a 35mm adapter ... this thing translated only the bayonet complete ... bad buy for your purposes ... you should tell better ... it comes with a 35mm adapter but synonymous requests the use of camera lenses, but is especially It is why the area over which the light hits enlarge And this happens in this "ring" is not.
In short, it is not a 35mm adapter. As described on Ebay: Nikon adapter for Canon XL1, "does next.
Do not invest too much money unless you know how it works a 35mm adapter ...
MFG
Jonas
Antwort von JonnyStalker:
what if I s.dem
Attach a 35 mm adapter objective would
I mean some effect but it needs to have it?
exactly for what is the adapter now as, if not for 35 mm?
Perhaps one could even tell anyway great pictures.
If the vendor and has not made false statements
I would of try to buy back the JOIN NOW
lg
Antwort von JonasB:
You have just now the possibility to install high-quality photographic lenses. If you have money for a 85mm 1.2 lens, you get your film look something closer ^ ^
You are floating in the choice of your Lenses and you can just use cheap old camera lenses. More to the film look like it is not real.
A property of the film is the size, namely 35mm ... 35mm these have absolutely nothing to do with Focal.
In addition, the adapter then multiplies a focal.
I can not tell you whether the seller has made false claims. Film look is not clearly defined. However, I would try this thing will go again, unless you've got Haufeweiße Nikon's lying around and you want to play something. My tip s.dich, because I realize that you still have no idea of the matter, is a full Manual Lens for XL1.
http://www.dv-kameraverleih.de/xl1_14x_004.jpg
Used, for I think getting to 600. Thus, I think, images can be achieved in the film look and it is good to learn about.
Have yourself with the combo a few years ago rotated.
MFG
Jonas
PS
This article deals exactly with your subject
http://www.slashcam.de/info/XL1-2-adapter-fuer-foto----filmobjektive-108549.html
Antwort von hofnarr:
The adapter does exactly what is described in the auction text: it enables the connection of 35mm optics with photo-mount s.The nikon canon xl. it is a purely mechanical adapters without the additional innenleben the "film look" adapter. The vendor's specifications are correct.
Antwort von JonnyStalker:
@ JonasB
The film is of you?
you have the chance not objectively and still want to sell it?
ma still have checked & the salesman told me
had written that I with this adapter into
35 mm film can. is it then a false summaryplot of him? if false then I step back from the detailsfull are buying! shame if it does not and should work now
I then spent the money for nothing.
Antwort von Chezus:
schau doch mal vorbei philip blooms on site. It describes exactly what makes such a adapter.
The motif, which is captured by the lens, is projected onto a screen that serves as a kind of sensor.
This focusing screen is practically filmed of your camera.
As if you would with a camera filming the movie screen, only with much better quality;)
Moreover, there is an engine in the adapter that brings the TV screen to rotate or vibrate, so that without the structure of the ground glass / glasses see the ground.
Ground glass, motor, etc. have achromat in the product that you have bought your not at court. I would have watched at least once a Picture of a 35mm adapter before I bid for something;)
In addition, 89 euros, so to speak anything. Since you'll have to shell out a few hundred dollars
here is a picture of my Camera. The part between Lens and Camera is the adapter. Heavy, not to send part
Antwort von JonnyStalker:
ok, got that now understood,
not all, but even smarter than I was before:)
would have for perhaps jemand nen tip for me
I could still look cool hinbekommen nen synonymous without 35 mm?
lg
Antwort von Chezus:
progressive output, color correction (, possibly light setting; is not always possible)
Antwort von Chezus:
BTW what do you want to look at all:?
Most of the talk here of the film look, give yourself in the end with the previously mentioned things satisfied
Progressive (, 25p)
Color correction (, saturation, contrast, gamma correction)
Then just now:
Depth of Field
Grain (; film grain. Although I would rather avoid)
16:9
Antwort von JonnyStalker:
it is so that it really nice
So I think that with this 35mm (; tiefenschärfe) is.
I, the mom but not because I can not have a 35 mm I have
So find another solution so that I do as much as possible from
can look to (; picture)!
I once made a short film, which I find eigendlich quite well.
I mean sure I had no idea of the whole, he is as
first kuzfilm quite well done.
But something is missing and I'm not easy on it.
Perhaps I could tell someone what I could do better?
So I think now the image.
the tone is unfortunately nciht become so good, but that it is not synonymous to me now is that I get more attention. had only slightly been attempted.
with a 35 mm one can make a film very exciting,
because the audience can fixate on something. if someone
a tip for me as I create synonymous with no 35mm?
has anyone here ever seen nen cool the film was rotated without 35 mm? if so it would be nice if someone nen link it here
could be!
lg
Antwort von Chezus:
you reduce "film" too much on the blur.
Many exaggerate it as synonymous with the Canon 5D
as synonymous fits the sentence "if it's not in focus, it's not HD"
Synonymous, and "not gear makes good movies, only the filmmakers do"
Your Youtube film is simply too poorly lit to get a good look to produce.
Schonmal Have you seen the making of the Lord of the Rings scene in the caves of spirits? Days later, brightly lit and everything is distorted as if it was totally dark.
If you come in front of it makes dark, you have no room for reworking synonymous.
Selective sharpening is super and precisely because of the looks I bought the adapter synonymous! However, I had massive needs synonymous and synonymous, of course, the money to do so;)
Before that, I've only rotated without IR filter and without the adapter. Only good staging, good editing and good post-synonymous, always on the lookout for THE film look.
Films with "film look" and without adapter like this abound on the net.
Thou therefore, looking for hay in a haystack
Of apart: once you lend it from a setup. It is
It's hard to be conspicuous and must be able to handle it.
Meaningful only with lenses prop, so zooming is eliminated. Focus shift is not child's play and generally have a motive is not synonymous with no sharp display correctly.
If you are relatively inexperienced as far as cameras or their settings, then you will start with such a part to be very dissatisfied.
Therefore, the tip rental:!
Antwort von JonasB:
@ JonasB
The film is of you?
you have the chance not objectively and still want to sell it?
ma still have checked & the salesman told me
had written that I with this adapter into
35 mm film can. is it then a false summaryplot of him? if false then I step back from the detailsfull are buying! shame if it does not and should work now
I then spent the money for nothing. Have the combo to me then ... you could just borrow the seller is now nailed to the wording, but basically he may be right ... with the thing you shoot with a focal of 35mm. But this is, as above does not explain everything. I would not let me in there to fight. Perhaps more telling, that it was a bad buy, to hire, he is friendly;).
If you do not have enough money, you should put value on other things. The pictures have to tell the story, and while it is secondary that they look good, they must fulfill their purpose.
On the other hand work with depth of field is fun and opens up entirely new possibilities, I can well understand why the nachjagdt;).
I find your movies very interesting. Iwie sick ^ ^
MFG
Jonas
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Bzgl. the adapter - You can say, around 7 times the focal expect from a 50mm lens then becomes a 350mm ...
Also missing s.dem adapter between the lens as is the Canon EF adapter of .... but the crop is synonymous factor.
Makes sense under the circumstances, in use with L IS lenses as the 70 - 300 mm .... for example, Surf videos from the beach ... has with "Film look done" but nothing.
.................................................. ....
For your film - notice - rather there is always 2 stops brighter rotate the picture will darken any effect. For some projects I had been (done with more than 7 levels, light, fog, particles and so on)
Comes from the purchase back! Synonymous, it is not clear whether the adapter from Canada will be sent which will again cost control and inches.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: Also called the Lenses KB (; Small) Lenses and with PL mount lenses have relatively little s.Hut which one s.zB Arri cameras used and the are VERY expensive.
PS2: Lenses should have to have (; less than 20 mm) 24, 35,50,85,105 (, 120) 250 mm, the focal lengths are the standard in the field or Stillimage synonymous with 35mm adapter productions.
Antwort von Daigoro:
But something is missing and I'm not easy on it.
Perhaps I could tell someone what I could do better?
So I think now the image. 3 minutes continuously changing effects consistent with the voice-over is too much.
However, the lack of either a contrast to 'reality' (; therefore normally filmed), or the tension.
The settings s.sich are really good. Happens quite effectively, but just somehow too much of it consistently. Great depth of field can be seen, but - except for a few scenes - are not. And perhaps we could with 'Tele Macro "or" wide-open aperture or blur mask in AE etc. hinbekommen still synonymous.
As in the other thread has written:
The adapter can not build itself. This is artisanal built s.sich (and, depending on claim) is not particularly difficult, you just have to start sometime.
Lens, "Macro Extension Tubes (; s.besten already with matching bayonet for the lens), focusing screen, something at the TV screen in the Extension Tubes fix (; there's so treatable plasticine) and something about the extension tubes s.der Camera screwed enough.
More professional than the Letus extreme up there that is not natural, but SD cameras are there anyway a bit less critical.
Antwort von JonasB:
As in the other thread has written:
The adapter can not build itself. This is artisanal built s.sich (and, depending on claim) is not particularly difficult, you just have to start sometime.
Lens, "Macro Extension Tubes (; s.besten already with matching bayonet for the lens), focusing screen, something at the TV screen in the Extension Tubes fix (; there's so treatable plasticine) and something about the extension tubes s.der Camera screwed enough.
More professional than the Letus extreme up there that is not natural, but SD cameras are there anyway a bit less critical. Even if true in fact what is being said. Remember that the picture is reversed on the head and AND that you "only" have a viewfinder. A Spiegelbarar external screen is thus mandatory.
I for one do not find it so easy nen vernüpftigen adapter building when the ground glass is placed in the wrong distance, afterwards you can not focus to infinity. And I think synonymous with SD a vibrating ground glass for better.
MFG
Jonas
Antwort von Daigoro:
Even if true in fact what is being said. Remember that the picture is reversed on the head and AND that you "only" have a viewfinder. A Spiegelbarar external screen is thus mandatory.
Yes Stand in the other thread, which is already available.
I for one do not find it so easy nen vernüpftigen adapter building when the ground glass is placed in the wrong distance, afterwards you can not focus to infinity. And I think synonymous with SD a vibrating ground glass for better.
It's true, just not isses, but the simple adapter that does not offer very much more synonymous (; improved processing and properly placed ground glass holder, ok). For more than you have to pay more money and if the attack was going,'s'd give no reason to post here.
Furthermore, if the next video in the direction of the sample's top go is a visible 'grain' from the TV screen is not as tragic as when one wants to make 'high-gloss' videos. We must deal very carefully with the television screen, because the slightest impurity is visible (but this remains a so-so or not saved).
Antwort von Chezus:
it is now much speculation out and her, what would be the best solution. Bring I think everything is nothing if he has not tried it myself once before, in other words, has borrowed a adapter.
I may be synonymous jumped into the cold water, because I have invested instead of the rental fee, rather just the money, but I deserve synonymous with it.
Who knows what he wants to achieve anything.
Also: if you are synonymous to the adapter itself is built, you need one way or another yet to optics and have just cost money.
Wide-angle, standard, telephoto, otherwise it makes almost no fun
The lenses alone would cost several hundred dollars.
All in all, a crappy movie by the investment of a few thousand euros synonymous not better;)
Antwort von JonnyStalker:
quite understand what do you want me to say &
see it now synonymous.
I am still just a few brands need to save &
'm there I try to rent a time!
there were one yet!
a friendly told me that one when you
away next of a person and is very close with the zoom
goes, one could perhaps synonymous with the sharpness to get out.
I tried that, but do not get out.
So I think if you like eg in front of a near object,
You can even make the back ground so as synonymous blurred.
can someone volgen me what I mean &
could work, if so, does anybody know how?
lg
Antwort von B.DeKid:
You zoom on an object and the background is blurred ... it's just ..... depending on the distance and Lens focal length is fair enough.
Try it with a table on which stands a lighter and a wall or see the device behind the table at about 2 m + off .... is because it shows only the lighter sharp and the background blurred.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS. Use manual focus.
Antwort von JonnyStalker:
ok people,
I am grateful for all the infos!
've learned and what still save a little bit so
I'm closer to my dream one piece:)
lg
Antwort von JonasB:
It's true. Depth of field is of from three factors:
Size of the Aperture, Focal (; zoom) and distance to the object, roughly speaking;)
MFG
Jonas
Antwort von SebiG:
I simply ask once in here, hope it does not go under but I must not make a new thread.
I do not want me for my XH-A1 is now synonymous buy a 35mm adapter and I've only once put a price limit of ¬ 2000.
I am here became aware of the SGBlade, the price is very good because with the equivalent of 700 ¬ (; http://www.sgpro.co.uk/). On the same Page is synonymous rod support systems fpr offered up to 230 ¬.
Thus one should s.geht what the costs have been cut off very well. Then I would need a mat or Lenses box and of course, for a start I would like first time only have one lens, so you should take as an all round objectively. So none of what makes all but one with which one would use the Rotate shäufigsten. I do mind you, turn in HD.
And as I've heard is synonymous for a follow focus almost mandatory, which is so synonymous logical. Therefore, I would take as synonymous another. Are there any specific recommendations? So for all of the above Dingeß
Also for SGBlade would interest me, like cutting off the case. I do not want that is easy to look only at the price, the quality is, of course, as always at the top.
So the great and all I need advice in relation to a whole set of 35mm.
Antwort von JonasB:
@ SebiG
The SGBlade is in my opinion the best in the price range with distance.
Only a Lens? Wrong idea. Before you s.Objektiven save, saving s.Mattebox and Follow Focus. Get at least (a wide angle, so 28mm), one with "normal focal" (, 50mm) and a telephoto (; 135mm). And all the fixed focal length, not just rounder. Produce a negative result with him. Get the SGBlade with Nikon Mount and then look for cheap old Nikon on Ebay. The three you get it for less than 600 ¬, all together. Pay attention to the aperture, thus at least possible Lichtstark: 28mm 2.8, 50mm 1.8, 135mm 2.8. If possible even better.
Mattebox is sooo important, you can give on it if you have no money. To variable Lenses not.
Look, if you want to save for Matte Box and Follow Focus on "Cinecity" isn store in India that sell for good price and generally quite acceptable products.
All in all you come up with $ 2,000.
Think about buying something for your shoulder, if you're not a fan of Tripod.
MFG
Jonas
Antwort von SebiG:
Ok you've certainly right.
The thing is that I photograph and synonymous anyway because I wanted to purchase Lenses. For the 35mm adapter I would therefore have only a quasi-basic equipment. So a 50mm to start with and then later on the extent and lens or two synonymous Lenses for a start. Likely to be well and normal, but then I must look again.
Do you have time maybe a link to this Cinecity shop? I find on google but a lot but I do not think the right thing.
So a Mattebox I guess it should be. When you're filming a lot in the sun or in a lot of light I guess a grateful tool. And a pinch I screw up my budget still look a little bit upwards, but only once. The Follow Focus can then only wait times.
But the SGBlade should be as well pleased me much time already. That's with the cheapest I found the the adapter.
ps The way I see the SGBlade has already installed a flip module, so I have to order because not one in? The question that remains is the picture quality, so where you taking out most? Sure but the optics but if I would put on the SGBlade a Zeiss Optics, that would be a waste of, or should it have a P + S or its Redrock adapter? So stop already, I would like to work in HD, so it is important that the good not only in standard definition looks like.
Antwort von Chezus:
First of all: I want to say anything bad, I admit that now only so again, as I found out after weeks of reading on the Internet. And by that I mean WEEKS!
I have written to all dealers (; Letus, Shoot35 in Germany, England and America), I'm all forums duchrgelesen, all tests are in come to me, all the videos ... I just wanted to protect me.
short speech, and sense that up there (came; photos) out here:
Letus Extreme
Zacuto Rods
35mm f2
50mm f1.2
85mm f1.4
All Nikon
Total net is about 3000 - 3300 Euro
Zacuto is very expensive, no question, but cursing Rods are stable. Since absolutely NOTHING wobbles!
As far as follow focus: can wait. Focusing can be as synonymous relatively well
Mattebox: can wait. Power of the rig and need not be very difficult for the beginning
What has brought me to the Letus Extreme?
a) the support in Germany. If what you do not have to send him abroad
b) the waiting time: Shoot35 have sometimes up to 6 weeks delivery
c) Quality: Letus is (or at least as far as the EX 1) optimized. Although the SGBlade has become synonymous pretty well under control but not yet one hundred percent
I have my views via Twitter for a while talking with Philip Bloom (; the extensively tested, both have). He finds the SGBlade great, takes great results. However, he is satisfied with (the Letus adapters of various reasons, imaging performance, vignetting, sharpness, etc.)
Can be improved, but it does not.
3 LENS are almost a must.
Depending on the light stronger the better. Synonymous, and if a good half an aperture and makes like 500 times, mostly due to the lens of their better performance, therefore worth the additional cost of often.
The 85mm lens I got for example, for 600 euros NEW. Costs are often still used as much.
All in all, you lie with no adapter wrong, but I'd think about it all seehr well and invest rather read again with more 5h;)
Antwort von SebiG:
Ohja must be exactly as you think aufjedenfall, synonymous my path is so even though the topic in our forums here constantly chewed.
So since you are referring to now, much to the EX1 Optimization to me with my XH-A1 now, of course, more is not so important.
What I have read so rightly (; synonymous test from the blog of Philip Bloom), is the SGBlade system a real alternative. The Letus is to be a bit better but when I look at the Prices, the SGBlade really sharp.
By Folow Focus you're right, it can definitely wait. I was there now synonymous times and even looked at the Indians because it is still at 500 ¬. When you realize that it is easy to rely on it but you can buy in advance erstmal not.
Matte box then I'll do once synonymous only behind, or tend to be very cheap interim solution (and, except it turns out quickly that not even the better quite cheap).
When I look at shoot35 times as a set together with rod and a second ROTOrazor already cost me 1400 ¬. If I want to stay with my 2000 ¬ budget because it is still rather close right for 3 good Lenses. Where you can plan as synonymous. Since I probably take a nikon mount I already had someone who still had time zb Lenses, which I could access. So three straight Lenses will likely s.Anfang really not. But I think it synonymous.
One question I'd have still synonymous. Since you've read them weeks and I've only been a few days time, the question on the ROTORazors since shoot35 offers. According to the website is the weakest Number2 s.Licht but offers the best look. The Number1 is new, has a not so good look but is a lot stronger light. The point 3 has the worst look synonymous but the best light.
Now, look at but synonymous only "good", "not so good", "bad" you have there chance to compare images found? Would it interest me much time, after all, look or "film-look" is a controversial issue. Fact, I would buy the Number1 and Number2, which are then another 120 ¬ more or less that could be put into a lens when I know that I would rather take the Number2 eg should I save the money for other better.
All in all, I'm up now truly convinced of SGBlade. The shoot35 synonymous rod looks very solid (; synonymous, according to Philip Bloom, although not the best but it is solid) and 230 ¬ synonymous with very impressive. Since you can buy the complete package without a guilty conscience.
So far the with the 35mm adapters on jedenfall a truly fascinating subject. For a camera upgrade at all times, not cheap but if done well is planning a very worthwhile upgrade. So I'm (still grateful for recommendations and synonymous test reports, as I said, I have the Internet yet) s.durchstöbern
EDIT: This one I have found relating to the Lenses shoot35 Forum
The 50 1.4 is very very good, but actually lose contrast and sharpness s.1.4 in a significant way. My observation is made with my Nikon D700, but still true with any kit35.
The 50 1.8 is half the price, and the quality is pretty much the same starting 2.8 compared to the 50 1.4.
The 50 1.8 is a must to have.
Actually, they are "kind of perfect" from 2.8 to 8, and totally perfect if you consider their price. Should we therefore safe to go to 1.4 or at least get a cheaper 1.8? Especially s.The working people here, with a 35mm adapter. How is the light coming from? Do you often work with very open Aperture, or has been in daylight / studio light still room?
