Frage von alexanderdergrosse:
Famous deep blur again ...
Is there a construction of the 35mm adapter for HV30 anyway?
Regards
Alex
Antwort von Axel:
Is there a construction of the 35mm adapter for HV30 anyway? Is the purchase of an HV30? She was purchased for the purpose, with wedding films, etc. something to earn money? Then clearly: no. Even with a very practical adapter like the Letus are reportage style shots in virtually excluded.
All this is not comparable with the question whether the additional expenditure for brand shoes worth. You could say it's worth it, because brand shoes are better processed and last longer. Then comes the argument work shoes: 50 ¬, and the shoe holds years (valuable tip for regular wage earners, the priorities in life).
Most adapters are in for something else. As with everything.
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
adapters have a lot about building and have read synonymous with obi
necessary things to build themselves purchased. I will go in the direction of film,
with more profound unschärfe try.
Now I want to build yourself an adapter (as here):
http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/dof/index4.htm
However, a problem, where people with experience, I must ask!
have a hv30 have weitwinkel of Raynox with between 0.66 and
is a ring (of M43 -> M52), to ring with the Raynox hv30 to connect.
Now the question: how big should the 3 holes of the homemade 35mm converter because its: 43 or 52 millimeters?
Axel, what would you recommend me?
(as described above in the link, then become one I build)
regards
alex
Antwort von Axel:
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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
Rotating MATT DISCS ARE MIST! Even if the CD is made of glass and if kolibriertes perfect engine use?
(Incidentally, I want the perfectness little more plain old film-look)
Antwort von Axel:
Well, if you already have the materials, make it. It is worth it to look, always a more useful employment as a television or Puzzle Place. I would just not spend too much money into the trappings invest.
I had a frosted CD-dummy, and the impression that the relatively muddy picture, therefore, was that the screen just by fractions of a millimeter in the Z-axis eierte. When standing still the Picture CD was sharper (though of course we saw the grain). My second self was still standing with Mattscheibe (waxed Diagläschen without grain). That was better, but unfortunately it was not 100% wax gleichmäig distributed.
I bought an adapter that is still standing with Mattscheibe (Go35pro), I will sell synonymous. Disadvantage for HD To the structure of the screen can not be identified, one needs at least Aperture 2.0, better 1.4, where the focus range is so small that you almost only from still-lifes by Tripod film can.
My current, the Letus extreme, has a vibrant screen and a prism that is equal to the Picture page correctly rotates. Only above 5.6 Aperture recognizes a Matte surface structure (with 2.8 the best compromise between sharpness Händel visible area and the apparent depth of blur, which is finally in an adapter goes). I therefore assume that Matt vibrating discs are basically the best.
If you have something to build ¬ 150 (see instructions), it would probably be recommended.
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
... I would just not spend too much money into the trappings invest .... The trappings were present, only wood that had fetched,
will be in the near future what tinker. Sure, you of the
shown variant looks very promising, I
the first time will not invest money but what do
which already had with the experiment.
Which CD-screen (rotating) is better because:
glass (itself rausgeschnitten) or plastic, or ...?
Antwort von HansMaulwurf:
Test times simply dummy NEN CD. If you do not dull, please take a transparent and NEN 1200-1500er and sandpaper.
Can cut without very careful particularly useful results.
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) All a more useful employment as a television (...) Well ...
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
Test times simply dummy NEN CD. If you do not dull, please take a transparent and NEN 1200-1500er and sandpaper.
Can cut without very careful particularly useful results. Yes I will be the Maxwell hernehmen dummy, but it would be synonymous
possible synonymous glass so to cut a slice.
Would the quality of the screen made of glass "theoretically" better?
If the screen for a particular substance used?
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
naja, hats not worked, according to these instructions,
http://hethfilms.de/?show=tutorials&tutorialID=29
've done step by step, without success,
have built up as far as everything, cd-Dummies, 3 wood,
can not be the distances between the plates,
out,
The picture is not even on the upside, but normal,
no idea but would be on small tipp
come to target and saying thank you
mfg
a
Antwort von Axel:
... can not be the distances between the plates, find out ... The distance between the posterior lens is fixed to the screen. They call him the
"Auflagemaß"
(Please enter on Wikipedia, Link does not work because of the "ß")
The table on the Page can be the first evidence, but because the gap to one tenth millimeter to be exact, this is not enough. You have to be - when rotating screen (as I wrote above, I seemed already to be outside this tolerance, eggs> rather blurred picture in motion, standing still sharp) - to "" " focus by making the distance between the plates over the threaded rods precise adjustment. Bombenentschärfen? A model ship build in the bottle? Say not, it would have warned you None!
The picture is not even on the upside, but normal ... Could it be that you're in the DIY've dislocated
something? Your discovery would be a sensation, the laws of physics on its head!
Next: The distance between the back of the screen to your lens with achromatic is equally determined: the distance, with you filling the screen image and sharp drauf hast (eingezoomt, zoom note!).
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
Thank you Axel, I shall now with newly acquired knowledge to make next,
you have warned me, do the curiosity is great, I want to do it, thank you for the link synonymous, then na s.die work
Antwort von Axel:
Another tip: You can see the rotation of the CD-dummy by a slight lead stabilize. Bring to a small Felt in the housing so that the dummy s.dessen the edge throughout the turn gently touched. The same are you doing on the other, diagonally opposite (at the top front, bottom back). Beware, however, that the rotation is not experienced. If you eiert nix, you can save.
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
Somehow I manage the whole not, may be due to that I've created little, but the 3 areas, I have moved out and her,
the picture will simply not on the projected screen.
Take s.dass the CD is not good enough ground.
What Matt needs to be because the CD?
One last question:
übehaupt so there is a software solution to the depth blur later in the post process to simulate?
Many greetings
a
Antwort von minidv:
In After Effects there is a possibility with an Effect. If I just believe in the Pro version.
Antwort von jazzy_d:
http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials.html?id=45
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
Nice program and tutorial
Other software, specialized, there is not, right?
A long time ago here in the forum gabs a contribution of
a software that was never mentioned, many have
asked, but one did not want to say
what? (was a great dramatic thread)
Antwort von Axel:
... the picture will simply not on the projected screen ... Take a piece of parchment, and butter ( "tracing") and consider it at a distance of about 5 cm behind the KB-Lens. You look at the back of the paper the picture on the head. Was there already an understanding that problem? I also overload: a Raynox wide-angle attachment? Totally unsuitable (see Nahlinse or (Wikipedia) "achromat"). The lens in front of your HV30, the tiny picture on the paper size, that you can record the full picture.
Nice program and tutorial
Other software, specialized, there is not, right?
A long time ago here in the forum gabs a contribution of
a software that was never mentioned, many have
asked, but one did not want to say
what? (was a great dramatic thread) It was a joke and was called
R eal
F eel inema
C T ool.
Seriously: Any program that allows these three things, allows the synonymous for Postpro
selective blur (as opposed to epth
D o f
F ield, which is not quite the same):
1. Multiple video tracks in composite modes on each other
(> Is the same clip on top of each other, the lower is made by filter blurred)
2. Animatable masks, synonymous to a soft edge that may have
(> The foreground motif (sharp) will be released with a mask on the blurred background)
3. A blur filter (Gauss, better is a special filter, blur, lights blurrt greater than downs, and corresponds more closely to the lens blur).
(> So)
After Effects comes as the first in the sense, but there are other synonymous. Perhaps even your NLE (possibly with a rotoscoping plug-in?). Is a bit expensive, but worth the effort.
Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:
I've got about 5 years ago for something to tinker with my son. Once we actually with butter paper and filter holders had understood the principle, we have in the company photo accessories Novoflex in Memmingen can carve an adapter: approximately 200 Euro's has lost about 30 + Euros for a paraffin-screen of a photo specialty retailers, but whose name I forgot. Böhler or something like that.
Works surprisingly well actually, Hollywood really turns this thing with only one (due to the low depth of field). The low depth of field makes a multiple s.Annäherung s.35mm movie, such as 25p recording (at the time with the Panasonic AG DVX 100).
1. We have many different CANON Lenses with the old FD mount.
2. We have 2 SONY TRV-900 with 52mm filter thread.
3. The adapter consists of 2 pieces of black pipe, between the connection s.der place a paraffin-screen is fixed. The Picture of film in question is only by the Canon-Lens. It is with his bayonet against bayonet s.dem matching s.Novoflex flanged pipe. There is of course perfectly Novoflex machine equipped. The first piece of pipe is about 50 mm long, then the paraffin-screen, in exactly the distance from the bayonet, as in the CANON-camera film plane would be. There on the screen creates an upside-down real picture, practically without any grain, as there is no etched glass, but a razor-thin paraffin film pressed between two glass panes. Another great advantage over other Mattscheibe: paraffin has almost no hot-spot, so no strong difference in brightness between the central and peripheral rays rays.
Then comes yet another piece of pipe, about 2 cm long, precisely those distances, with the WW I in the position of the SONY video camera lens can do macro shots, where the screen image (approx. 36 x 24 mm as small as) formatfüllend (4:3) can be added.
As a permanent connection to the video camera serves the counterpart to the 52mm filter thread of the video lens.
4. The sharpness s.der video camera is fixed on the approximately 2 cm distance, so that the autofocus is not the pump starts. The real focus of the image is so s.Entfernungsring the manual CANON lens set (and the sharpness level is synonymous there so wonderful from the front shifted to the background, as in the movies!).
5. The optical Antiwackler the camera is turned off (because the screen image does not really wobble).
6. Now comes the main problem: the picture is upside down. Sure, with a huge pentaprism, as cited in the SLRs sits, it could be maintained and page properly. Expensive and difficult.
7. Stopgap: a display Hood (or how ever hot mag), has been reconstructed of me from 4 thin plastic discs, rectangular tube as a trained and with a black cloth wrapped and connected. So what's synonymous to the shading of the camera displays unfolded to buy. This is with 2 rubber bands on the extended display of the Camera geschnallt. On the lower surface of this shadow box is a mirror stuck s.besten a oberflächenverspiegeltes plastic pieces (which have presented me with Novoflex). So I look on the display screen of this mirror. This is the picture at least maintained, while still laterally, but at least upright. With a little practice you filming as formerly with the doppeläugigen 6x6 cameras photographed, the brain is similar to the laterally-turn in the right direction.
8. Last Act: The video must be in a post-production rotated upright again, as it is there so synonymous in the head.
I just play the movie just as normal in the Calculator (Adobe Premiere), and then I leave the entire film with the "Picture rotate 180 degrees" and then convert again to render and export as an AVI. Now I have a normal AVI movie that I can cut quite normal, but it looks like Hollywood.
9. Last of all Gag: Our previous SD cameras are working with a 50i-Picture, so with 2 fields. This standard applies to "lower field first". However, if the picture by 180 degrees upside is, the picture flickers on a tube TV bit. The get away, ind
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
Thank you Walter for the detailed description of your experiments.
Thank you Axel synonymous. Will be next experiment. Many greetings a
