Frage von Zizi:
So I got my AVCHD files with the transcoder of the Panasonic P2 MXF files. Now I want to join the clips / cut and saved without any loss. (Mpeg, AVI, etc.) If I export movie to go and then M $ AVI lists, I suppose these codecs:
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=DvL5i1zfpRAYKiT.JPG No loss of quality and reasonably tolerant memory size.
If I export - Adobe Media Encoder .. I can only go to MPEG1 or 2 format, which can select the Picture is not necessarily better and nebenbe with Windows Media Player problems!
How / What are you doing to cut as much as possible be kept in a standard format?
Thanks for your help!
Antwort von robbie:
How / What are you doing to cut as much as possible be kept in a standard format?
On tape off.
When recording in MXF format (in your case, P2 is probably appropriate).
Uncompressed store.
Memory now costs nothing. Who wants a strong compression in order to save space, saves s.falschen end.
Antwort von Zizi:
On tape sounds good but can I save the full 1920x1080?
So from her place so I have enough (Raid 1.4 TB) but I want the videos can play normally synonymous.
Because I watch the videos on a multimedia hard drive on my FullHD and wants to play MXF files are not known and these too Expensive stored ..
I want s.Liebsten play MPEG2 or AVI file with the best quality synonymous with WMP, I can play! How do I s.besten?
So much quality ghét but not lost?
Antwort von robbie:
maybe you should export uncompressed, and then with another encoder to convert the desired format (divx. ..)
avi is not a separate format, but as MXF, just a container for other formats (DV, divx ,...)
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Memory now costs nothing. Then I had bad luck, had 69 ¬ uro for a 500 GB USB drive pays ...
Antwort von Zizi:
Well have uncompressed 10 min about 40 GB! I do not know if this is so cheap ... ;-)
But what encoder do you want? and what codec is used to an almost lossless Picture to get ..? at least you should see little difference.
Antwort von robbie:
Then I had bad luck, had 69 ¬ uro for a 500 GB USB drive pays ... I hope you know what I meant was, and that's more towards sarcasm.
I remember the first hard drive which I had bought had a proud and 2GB cost me then about 2500 schillings, or about 170 ¬.
Last I bought me a 500GB hot-plate at 50 ¬. Because I get to the bottom bill ever 120min unkompressed it.
Well have uncompressed 10 min about 40 GB! I do not know if this is so cheap ... ;-)
But what encoder do you want? and what codec is used to an almost lossless Picture to get ..? at least you should see little difference. Thou shalt not take the uncompressed file so synonymous back then delete it after you with an encoder have changed.
Which codec should you use? the devil knows what you mean "almost lossless Picture" understand. And what are the differences you perceive with your eyes, I can not synonymous.
There are people who see no difference between 8bit and 10bit, and there are people who see the difference between 420 and 422 do not, and then again there are people who watch their videos on-screen s.PC.
I do not know what format your favorite player beherrst, and I do not know what you think films. The stormy Sexfilmchen belongs compressed differently than the contemplative Zoobesuch.
I gave you the tip above to DivX, as currently all is still I do not know. Maybe this helps you in a further search for the appropriate codec for you: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=divx&btnG=Suche&meta =
Antwort von Zizi:
ICh film actually visits the zoo and people .. Stormy Sexfilmchen rather not.
Can I use my FullHD material in MXF HF10 Divx to compress? I thought that rather Divx DVD to CD size compressed with some loss ..
Antwort von robbie:
Your Path:
MXF - editing program - also played uncompressed - Divx converted.
Now you have a suitable HD File, du du with suitable DVD players, even in HD! Watch it. Specifications observed. I have never gmacht knows therefore not exactly look like.
I do not now s.dass your videos are longer than 45min. Or I hope so. Otherwise, reduce what keeps the stuff, because less is more. But that is another matter.
Antwort von Zizi:
so now I've made .. schonmal looks quite good with Divx!
Is synonymous to the very small file! From 14 GB to 88MB runterkomprimiert!
At first glance it looks no different! However, for larger areas such as ZBS. Divx sky looks not very good!
Is there a better solution maybe the 200MB instead of 88MB but offers perfect Compacts?
Antwort von robbie:
so now I've made .. schonmal looks quite good with Divx!
Is synonymous to the very small file! From 14 GB to 88MB runterkomprimiert!
At first glance it looks no different! However, for larger areas such as ZBS. Divx sky looks not very good!
Is there a better solution maybe the 200MB instead of 88MB but offers perfect Compacts? The data rate increase ...
It is not a better solution, but better settings. Since you have so play now and try it.
Antwort von Zizi:
So now I have the data on Max Divx to set and am still disappointed .. ;-(
Seating has the whole search on the weekend before the codecs! It will surely give a solution to the original AVCHD -> MXF file to a common format is where you can hardly notice differences and max. 3-4x larger!
Divx seems unfortunately not to be. You notice on my FullHD already significant differences ..
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Zizi
I will not disillusion you, but as long as you of one (qusi) transparent process back into a stronger compression switch, your material is always bad, it depends on the weakest link in the chain.
With AVC you have currently drafted reduction algorithms. The log you with an alternative method in its completeness can not reproduce. It is synonymous not so much on the data to .... it is about the set reduction tools.
Example: a 1 / 4 pixel precise Bewegungsprädiktion you lose immediately if you have a codec with work, which only has 1 pixel accuracy. Because you can then the data rate as high screw, as you want.
There are yet other examples. Moreover, successive data reductions (cascaded), provided they use different tools also affect the signal, or produce artifacts.
Also ensure there are now a handful of examples ...
Attempts a reasonable workflow BluRay AVC-style, perhaps even a bit slow and cumbersome, but where you stay in the reduction method.
This is currently the most sensible solution, qualities should be preserved.
Incidentally, the so-called "lossless" codecs synonymous and non-transparent to encode .... almost always with losses and even if you have losses in the first step, still do not see ... but then in Endcodec.
But like Robbie very rightly said ... some do not bother to see or perhaps synonymous differences do not ...
You can only know what bothers you and what you can still tolerate .... But miracles are not possible and only with setting the highest data rate you get is not in the handle.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Divx seems unfortunately not to be. You notice on my FullHD already significant differences .. Times you can describe in detail what you try, what Presets / data rates, etc. You use? Anyway, how you play the DivX video on the TV from?
Antwort von Zizi:
Thank you first time for your help!
Times you can describe in detail what you try, what Presets / data rates, etc. You use? Anyway, how you play the DivX video on the TV from? Dvix Converter So when I turn the data on video all the way up 20000th.
See here:
http://www.bilder-space.de/show.php?file=dJTC6hWBq33tY7z.JPG Yes and then I can always just between HD 1080p, QMobile, home theaters, and 720p choose? nehm 1080p because I though the material was recorded with 60i ...
Did I miss what?
Play tu I s.PC with WMP or VLC (the latest).
And s.FullHD Ferneher do I transfer the material on my
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Antwort von Quadruplex:
Dvix Converter So when I turn the data on video all the way up 20000th. The "Converter" is a toy. You make yourself so well that he only 1080p offers you - that's when i source material in the pants. At the data rate, it is not - 15 Mbps range should be thick - rather less.
If you have DivX on your system, you really should make it possible, on the other video software synonymous directly. If not, you can take XviD synonymous. If both are from the same family, which people have DivX but eventually for the simple Mammon decided. The discussion about whether current DivX or XviD is better fills volumes ...
Second option: You exportierst Your Videos HuffYUV as lossless and makes it with VirtualDub or VirtualDubMod - the DivX can respond in any case. How it goes:
http://www.videoaktiv.de/Hintergrundinfo/EDITING_Hintergrundinfo/Installation-of-DivX-and-Einsatz-with-VirtualDub.html
What is it? How do I ¬ 7.50 to invest?
http://www.videoaktiv.de/Hefte/2008/VIDEOAKTIV-4/2008-June/July.html
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Zizi
Why do you want to ever have DviX or another derivative of H.264, if you make it in the original in the best quality can have?
DviX is nothing more than a development from an early draft MPEG4 and not nearly as well developed as H.264. So why not stay in H.264?
Antwort von Zizi:
Why do you want to ever have DviX or another derivative of H.264, if you make it in the original in the best quality can have?
DviX is nothing more than a development from an early draft MPEG4 and not nearly as well developed as H.264. So why not stay in H.264? Würd ich ja gerne .. but I will probably no other choice?
I Tell you this AVCHD still makes me sick ..
Why do all of JVC Manufacturer except on this kak.
By doing so, but each only had problems and so is the looks of Mpeg2 JVC synonymous little worse.
My multi-disk and can not play in the Premiere editing program can not convert ichs!
Otherwise I would already!
