Frage von kroepel:
Hello everybody!
Has anyone experience with the native editing of AVCHD footage
5:11 in Edius?
The strength lies in the software work better with
Intermediate Canopus HQ AVI in real time Super HD edit
but I had myself of my system (4x2, 5 Ghz) actually
more promised.
The MTS files from my Sony cam will otherwise
of some players (eg PowerDVD) smooth
reproduced.
In Edius immediately falls of real-time buffer in the basement and the
Jerkiness clips. Although the CPU is not even half full
is ...
Has anyone experience? Is Edius for exports only 4-core capable
So faster?
We found other editing of schedules, based on a
Quadsystem in the average growth performance are not synonymous ...
Has anyone experience?
So a PC Supplied Cyberlink program, with which, however,
only rudimentary interface can operate, however, works quickly
with the AVCHD clips ...
Thank you for your experiences!
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Kroepel
Welcome to the forum.
The issue, however, is known and is already here for 2 years in numerous threads treated. Details so you can find with the search.
Small Summary: The 4 Cores only use something if both the operating system, synonymous as the application software (; NLE) makes a corresponding load.
Page forth from OS to be Windows 7 or its OS 10.6.
Once the operating system becomes available, it can be that good NLEs with updates to follow suit.
AVCHD uses the Bewegungsprädiktion instead of an I-Frame up to 16 I-frames (and in currently in use Profiles are 4 I-frames).
This means that they are not, as is currently held in memory, but in RAM (please no discussion of whether the memory is not synonymous). It must therefore not only be more pictures, but synonymous for a long time.
That the existing architectures are not set.
If you do not want to wait for the operating systems, helps only a graphics card, which takes up a load.
There remains the question of whether your NLE supports ... I do not know.
You see, your problem is not s.Calculator, but it will soon be resolved.
As I said. Details, such architectures synonymous why it can not, in older threads.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
If you do not want to wait for the operating systems, helps only a graphics card, which takes up a load. With the combination of nonlinear editing / graphics card could be because the timeline Edting and accelerate the real-time preview? That is but the poster above, actually. Please now no discussion about the fact that an accelerated final rendering with an appropriate and CUDA GraKa as possible, which is already with us vorgedrungen.
Antwort von Rolf Hankel:
Hello everybody!
Has anyone experience with the native editing of AVCHD footage
5:11 in Edius?
The strength lies in the software work better with
Intermediate Canopus HQ AVI in real time Super HD edit
but I had myself of my system (4x2, 5 Ghz) actually
more promised.
The MTS files from my Sony cam will otherwise
of some players (eg PowerDVD) smooth
reproduced.
In Edius immediately falls of real-time buffer in the basement and the
Jerkiness clips. Although the CPU is not even half full
is ...
Has anyone experience? Is Edius for exports only 4-core capable
So faster?
We found other editing of schedules, based on a
Quadsystem in the average growth performance are not synonymous ...
Has anyone experience?
So a PC Supplied Cyberlink program, with which, however,
only rudimentary interface can operate, however, works quickly
with the AVCHD clips ...
Thank you for your experiences! I believe in the Canopus forum are you with your question better
Gruss Rolf ...
Antwort von kroepel:
If you do not want to wait for the operating systems, helps only a graphics card, which takes up a load.
With the combination of nonlinear editing / graphics card could be because the timeline Edting and accelerate the real-time preview? That is but the poster above, actually. Please now no discussion about the fact that an accelerated final rendering with an appropriate and CUDA GraKa as possible, which is already with us vorgedrungen. Bruno Hi Peter!
True, it's me not the rendering, that brings me to
Edius well clear, and that it is not synonymous yes before Calculator
remain seated.
Nevertheless, I thank the writer of the previous posts for
The Basics ...
If so unbelievable that you have returned to a new operating system
instructed to be honest to the hardware used,,,
Why I ever was so annoyed that I had after the
first installation of the new PC and installed Edius
Tested and thought the native AVCHD playback
(timeline) had absolutely no problem, I did it with a file from a
Old Project tested, then I have my calculator with all
provided the other software that I do so.
Then I returned a few days later back to Edius
back and shakes it with AVCHD (Sony) how the hell ...
Since I obviously had one of the other Programs
suspected, the system is "vermurkst" to have ...
(Although Edius, I think, not much is purely scamp in his
System)
Later I came to the conclusion that I am probably the first
Test an already changing "CanopusHQ" file into the timeline
had slipped. (there were duplicate files in the folder, because I
yes on my old system always had converted)
There was of course the good performance is not unusual ...
After the initial euphoria was then of course the disappointment
quite large. Well, the new calculator is still fun.
A pity that other editing programs, even better
with AVCHD clearly come. This CyberLink Director zickt
because not much around. But unfortunately, I begin to "workflow" is not
really opposed.
And finally I want to cut with Edius.
Use it since version 3, mainly because of real-time
and the software has real rausgemacht.
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Antwort von domain:
@ Load and Windows 7:
A load was and is already synonymous with XP and Vista planned, called multithreading, or have dual-and quad yes or no sense. A similar load balancing is only possible if certain processes simultaneously and in parallel carried out.
A fundamental question I am still: what and how much can be approximated with a sequential medium, such as film actually parallelize?
I can not imagine that because under Basics Windows 7 will change, except that then synonymous in a super home computer a few dozen to a hundred seeds for DV editing equally banal could be charged, what happened to me in a sequential media such as film, but unlikely to occur.
Incidentally, Power Director works in the standard configuration with obvious proxy mpeg2 files, so the rapid but qualitatively rather miserable preview. These proxy files are created continuously in the background, you notice s.dauernden Herumrödeln the hard drive without synonymous timeline activities.
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Domain ..
... with a GoP of 100 and 16 I-frame at the same time in work, you can not really speak of sequentially.
That has been I-frame only, where only one picture in memory was given. Even MPEG2 is not really sequential ...
@ Bruno
The reference to the I-slices, of course, synonymous for image processing, ie synonymous for preview. Only that that is synonymous NLE such hard goods must support. As is usually still the crux of the matter that the nonlinear editing manufacturer in the stockings come.
If we premiere with another graphics card run, it'll vastly different.
Premiere uses the external DSP (SIMD machine), which for each pipeline, its own register file structure.
So synonymous a "weaker" PC so clear. W7 and 10.6 compared with access to the internal structures.
This division into sub-processes is, however, depending on the application rather expensive and requires major changes in the code and increasing considerable effort in troubleshooting.
Therefore, synonymous for NLE Manufacturer not so with the left and made many programmers shy away from the task or buttons only slowly approached.
But, as I said, in DV, it was quite a long time synonymous ... and MPEG almost 15 years until it enters the home came Calculator.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
the new PC and installed Edius
Tested and thought the native AVCHD playback
(timeline) had absolutely no problem ... No no, you can at Nativschnitt of synonymous Edius not expect much of what is generally known.
But ...., the real real strength with the Edius HQ AVI Intra-Intermediates, because the post is really from, provided that your hard disks are not too slow. With RAID 0 you will but a true joy to have. Myself such time Edius system with Raid 0 and have seen no bad gestaunt!
I think until you do not particularly good advice when the system has been building!
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Domain
I had forgotten ...
A load was and is already synonymous with XP and Vista planned, called multithreading, or have dual-and quad yes or no sense. In general, start as a monolithic bloc Programs that Windows treats as a process: it is a key assigned to it.
When you open the Task Manager, are normally checked all cores. This does not mean that the process uses multiple cores, but one of them.
Disabled man after and after, it remains only about a core without the need for the process slowed down.
How could programs for power-hungry at least one core book .... Windows would remember the ... makes it, unfortunately not.
Therefore, in previous Windows versions do not load in terms of processes within a complex computational process, but only the distribution of processes that have little to do with each other.
What Windows are not synonymous as previously could offer, the merger of these distributed processes ... which is of course synonymous again requires computing power ... so far is in Vista and XP quite eyewash.
Antwort von domain:
Your statements are consistent with those of a fairly well-known to me the system programmer of the huge programming effort for true SMP in AVCHD had predicted.
Whether this effort for the few amateurs (max. 20%) will pay off, the AVCHD natively want to cut, so will show.
Avid and FinalCut want to seem so yes not even anpatzen.
Antwort von WoWu:
Wise decision, because there is the AVC-I.
The question is whether the industry is not a quality level and decided to move to higher profile in future will offer, because what is currently sold under AVCHD is anyway only the lowest quality level .... but in relation to MPEG2 is already a step forward, but the route to the top is wide open.
But what the load is concerned, as should the programmer do not make so much of a shirt ... because they do not come around. The good old days are just gone, especially because synonymous implementing regulations are considerably clarified ... there is nothing more with Fixpoint, where floating point is required, as was earlier.
The time of the great freedoms in implementations is over.
Maybe they complain, therefore, that everything was so difficult because they are in the past to have bad skin laid.
Antwort von domain:
Yes as it looks. As an AVC High 10 Intra "Implementation Panasonic has really probably the best cards in the game for the future and format used in the long term synonymous for the amateur sector.
Because it is so keen on Sony's answer, where even the HD422 format still based on mpeg2.
In the future I see in my crystal ball, however, first trying the EX format in the amateur sector infiltration, which is synonymous vorrübergehend would be quite useful, because it is currently in use with PCs perfectly to EVISION is.
JVC is currently exerziert already steps: starting with the Amateurvorläufern HD30/40 with. Tod and now with the HM100 and EX.
If the Cashcows professional formats of the current times are no longer so much profit off and the memory sizes grow increasingly synonymous and cheaper, then this is probably quite likely.
