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Frage von Franz Schupp:


Hello,
My Camera AVCHD delivers videos with 24 Mbps
Currently I use a editing program Magix-Video-deluxe-15 Premium.
The program works with a few tricks, but has some quirks.
Who has experience with another program with which I make the following
can:

AVCHD after Blu-Ray format and convert cut.
Effects add color, add music, etc.
Cut video without rendering the non-machined parts, to
Data in the Blu-Ray format.
Blu Ray Disc without rendering a new burn.

Gruß Franz




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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Franz Schupp wrote:
> Hello,
> My Camera AVCHD delivers videos with 24 Mbps

Oho, seems to be a better, most of them provide only 17Mbps!

> Currently I use a editing program Magix-Video-deluxe-15
> Premium. The program works with a few tricks, but has yet
> Some quirks. Who has experience with another program with the
> I can do the following:

Magix Programs are nice and good, but unfortunately still have quirks. I am
so on Liquid Edition (super program, but unfortunately can not AVCHD)
transition and of there in a cheap Crossgrade action on Canopus
Edius 5th Much cheaper EdiusNeo, I have been in eBay for 69th - seen.
Now there's something more expensive EdiusNeo 2nd
http://www.digitalschnitt.de/produkte/software/ediusneo.htm

AVCHD editing is with the Canopus HQ mode is very good, very easily without
great hardware configuration and without quality loss. Indeed
the recorded videos are quite large inflated, a multiple
of the original file size.

> AVCHD after Blu-Ray format and convert cut.
> Effects add color, add music, etc.
> Cut video without rendering the non-machined parts, to
> Data in the Blu-Ray format.
> Blu Ray Disc without rendering a new burn.

My Edius 5, an authoring program that is, Corel MovieFactory 7th

See synonymous
http://desktop.grassvalley.com/products/EDIUSNeo/index.php?langÞ

Gruß,

Norbert



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Antwort von Matthias Wendt:

"Franz Schupp" wrote:

> Hello,
> My Camera AVCHD delivers videos with 24 Mbps
> Currently I use a editing program Magix-Video-deluxe-15 Premium.
> The program works with a few tricks, but has some quirks.
> Who has experience with another program with which I make the following
> can:
I've always synonymous with great pleasure and without any
Problems or even crashes Magix used, however, may be my last
Version (2007/2008) is not AVCHD, I'm so over the Cross Upgrade
of an old sauteuren premiere license to edius5 changed. Now
Yes. AVCHD editing is synonymous quickly, have a Cpu i7, as in
Indeed, all eight cores used (according to taskmanager).
But the whole is very used to handling. Much of what
I think intuitively Magix continuous use and I find in Edius
do not or only with Klimmzügen: Part of set
Reverse video, Picture in Picture, etc. This is Magix everything in total
Just in Edius Imer I have not memorized where to
finding may be.
The letter of Blue-Ray discs so far is only a
Additional program of Ulead. Today, however, did not upgrade to Info
Version 5.11, lo and behold:
- Blu-ray Menuerstellung with export directly from the timeline
- New Menuvorlagen and simultaneously burn multiple DVDs
- The normalization of audio in the timeline
- The display of the audio waveform clips with stereo displays both
Channels
- Enhanced opportunities while working with brands sequence
- Vista 64bit drivers for HD Storm
- Blu FireCoder plug-in for Edius 5
and much more

Obs klappt, I do not know, not yet installed and tested.
From Features sees me actually Sony Vegas (Pro) potent
, but it is of course not entirely different price category in the
Pro version, and also strongly on Sony cameras cut.
Overall I must say so far:
AVCHD cut is no fun. Everything lasts incredibly long.
Even the shooting itself you have to learn new, pan and zoom should be
practicable to avoid it completely. Tripod would be very beneficial, my
long-used monopod tripod clearly shows its limits.
But the picture quality when recording is quiet infinitely better
than with DV.
Incidentally, I would be interested synonymous, so what you here for
Experiences and what you have works.
Greeting
Matthias


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Antwort von Franz Schupp:


"Matthias Wendt" wrote in news post
Re: AVCHD cut # # #
> "Franz Schupp" wrote:
>

> The letter of Blue-Ray discs so far is only a
> Addition of Ulead program. Today, however, did not upgrade to Info
> Version 5.11, lo and behold:
> - Blu-ray Menuerstellung with export directly from the timeline

Did the trial tried Edius 5.1 and was actually surprised that
because it does not directly burn Blu Ray can.
Nor can I with this program will not adjust video bitrate. From
Program created MPG videos can not be synonymous not load.
Since I am a not so fast PC, I have to first of all Magix
AVCHD after Blu-Ray format with high bit rate was changed and the dami
Video very good cut. When you continue working and will burn this format
not re-rendered.
With Magix because I had some problems to be my way, depending on the
Update times went as anything else does not have the bugs are reported,
of synonymous to me Magix were confirmed, new updates, unfortunately, always take
somewhat long.
The newest version of Magix-Video-deluxe-15 premium may be directly of
AVCHD after write Blu Ray, but with MPG formats after Blu-Ray
Problems.

Gruß Franz



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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Matthias Wendt wrote:
(to Edius 5):
> But the whole is very used to handling. Much of what
> I think intuitively Magix continuous use and I find in Edius
> Do not or only with Klimmzügen: Part of set
> Reverse video, Picture in Picture, etc. This is Magix everything in total
> Just in Edius Imer I have not memorized where to
> For his mag.

Edius is a very powerful professional program with multiple functions, since
not everything can be operated intuitively. We recommend a learning DVD
behind all the "secrets" of the program dahinterzukommen. Then
makes it really fun and the editing is more professional than with other
Programs. Ganz is not yet approached s.Liquid Edition - my
previous editing program, which unfortunately can not AVCHD, but simply fantastic and
Edius is very similar, but more than this - only synonymous with
Lerntraining to learn, to be truly "liquid" in the workflow. Edius
is also more stable, fantastic!

Greetings, Norbert Müller



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Antwort von Matthias Wendt:

Norbert Müller wrote:
> Edius is a very powerful professional program with multiple functions, since
> can not all be operated intuitively. We recommend a learning DVD
> is behind all the "secrets" of the program dahinterzukommen. Then
> makes it really fun and the editing is more professional than with other
> Programs.

That I think you unquestioningly. Only I'm not a professional, my time
is precious and I need a program that was simple and
operated quickly, without much learning curve. Even if I ne
Training behind me and the program would have some internalized
would have the knowledge but soon gone again, because I do not only continually
Movies cut.
But I'm sure soon there will be lots of alternatives for synonymous
give the pure amateur.
BTW is supplied on DVD, Manual of unfinished Edius5
a disaster, the update is apparently a new version is, hab
but not yet reingeschaut.
Greeting
Matthias


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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Matthias Wendt wrote:
> Norbert Müller wrote:
>> Edius is a very powerful professional program with multiple
>> Functions, because not everything can be operated intuitively. It
>> Recommend a learning DVD for behind all the "secrets" of the
>> Dahinterzukommen program. Only then does it really fun and the
>> Cut is more professional than with other programs.
>
> That I think you unquestioningly. Only I'm not a professional, my time
> Is so precious and I need a program that was simple and
> Operated quickly, without much learning curve. Even if I ne
> Training behind me and the program would have some internalized
> Would have the knowledge but soon gone again, because I do not only continually
> Movies cut.

Why did you buy then Edius 5? Hinausgeschmissenes Money, if you
the professional features of this program do not need!

> But I am sure soon there will be lots of alternatives for synonymous
> Give the pure amateur.

There are synonymous EdiusNeo, much cheaper and with less
Professional functions. And Sony Vegas, and still other programs.

> BTW is supplied on DVD, Manual of unfinished Edius5
> An unreasonable demand, the update is apparently a new version is, hab
> But not yet reingeschaut.

The new version is now completely in German, in English, she was there
earlier.

Throw your Edius but in the e-bay, if you do not want to work --
others will be happy!

mfg, Norbert



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Antwort von Franz Schupp:


"Norbert Müller" wrote in news post
news: 72b8d $ 4a0b3f78 $ d52f63cf $ 27739@news.chello.at ...
>
> AVCHD editing goes with the Canopus HQ mode is very good, very easily without
> Great hardware configuration and without quality loss. Indeed
> Are the recorded videos were fairly large inflated, a multiple
> Of the original file size.
>
Hello Nobert.
How often is because with the "Canopus HQ mode" of AVHHD to produce Blu
Ray rendering?
What bitrate did this mode and can thus eg 24 Mbps
Setting?
Gruß Franz



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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Franz Schupp wrote:
> "Norbert Müller" wrote in news post
> News: 72b8d $ 4a0b3f78 $ d52f63cf $ 27739@news.chello.at ...
>>
>> AVCHD editing goes with the Canopus HQ mode is very good, very easy
>> Without great hardware configuration and without quality loss.
>> However, the recorded videos were fairly large
>> Inflated, a multiple of the original file size.
>>
> Hello Nobert.
> How often is because with the "Canopus HQ mode" of AVHHD to
> Blu Ray finished rendered?

Hi Franz!

Are you the video performance under stress hobby as a news-Cutter
at the TV? :-)

So I have time even when capturing 1:1 and'm watching
in which scenes, I suppose, as I will arrange about what
Music, what title will I have to add ... I filme synonymous but not unnecessarily
much, just because is cheap, super-8 times were indeed a strict
Education in short scenes ...

> What bitrate did this mode and can thus eg 24 Mbps
> Settings?

I think there are different modes to off. Yes you can
a take it with 24mbps makes.
http://www.digitalschnitt.de/produkte/software/Edius.htm my knowledge, can
there is a synonymous dt. manual download.

Greetings, Norbert



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Antwort von Franz Schupp:


"Norbert Müller" wrote in news post
news: b3015 $ 4a0f0918 $ d52f63cf $ 16447@news.chello.at ...
> Franz Schupp wrote:
>> How often is because with the "Canopus HQ mode" of AVHHD to
>> Blu Ray finished rendered?
>
> Hi Franz!
>
> Are you in the hobby video performance under stress, such as a news-Cutter
> At the TV? :-)

Actually, not every render worse the quality.
I have often included videos, slideshows, with a length of 2 hours
(eg larger weddings)
Also take with my 3.2 GHz PC, the neurendern a 2 hours of videos about
25 hours, and I with smart-render only need about 1 hour, is just
for corrections important that a re-rendering is avoided.

It is important for me that I am with a program can do the following:
AVCHD video snippets render after Blu-ray format mpg
Video cut
Blu Ray Disc burn with eg only new transitions are re-rendered.

Gruß Franz



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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Franz Schupp wrote:
> "Norbert Müller" wrote in news post
> News: b3015 $ 4a0f0918 $ d52f63cf $ 16447@news.chello.at ...
>> Franz Schupp wrote:
>>> How often is because with the "Canopus HQ mode" of AVHHD to
>>> Finished rendered Blu Ray?
>>
>> Hi Franz!
>>
>> Are you in the hobby video performance under stress as a
>> News editors at TV? :-)
>
> Actually, not every render worse the quality.

Canopus renders "lossless". How to do this, I have not look into.

> I have often included videos, slideshows, with a length of 2 hours
> (Eg, larger weddings)
> Also take with my 3.2 GHz PC, the neurendern a 2 hours
> Videos about 25 hours, although I smart-render with only approximately 1 hour
> Need, is also important that corrections for a new render
> Avoided.
> It is important for me that I am with a program to make the following
> Can: AVCHD video snippets render after Blu-ray format mpg
> Cut video
> Blu Ray Disc burn with eg only new transitions newly rendered
> Are.

I have only snippets AVCHD sample output of original material
different cameras. I've bought but (until recently) a
FX1000, so HDV. So I have no real experience with AVCHD,
not yet synonymous with HDV. And DV-avi synonymous yes we had to render it on DVD
spend them. But there are several Edius Forums, where you have the problem
discuss it.
For example here:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/
http://www.liquiduser.de/
http://www.canopus-foren.de/wbb2/hmportal.php

In all, a declaration (under a pseudonym) is required.

Greetings, Norbert



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Antwort von Matthias Wendt:

Norbert Müller wrote:

>
> Why did you buy then Edius 5? Hinausgeschmissenes Money, if you
> the professional features of this program do not need!
The problem is that you can not know beforehand whether a man with
Program synonymous cope. And the 200 EUR for the crossgrade were
really cheap in comparison to the whole hobby programs by 99
EUR, what should I buy EdiusNeo because the same little imho
intuitive handling, but still less than Edius 5? It is
I do not synonymous around Money, which I have already more than enough in
DV Editing sunk.

> There are synonymous EdiusNeo, much cheaper and with less
> Advanced Features. And Sony Vegas, and still other programs.
The fact that Sony Vegas in the Pro version ne alternative is, I had even
already posted. The hobby version seems synonymous only slightly reduced and
quite good. But the AVCHD editing is hakelig and the
yes it went to the outpost. One can for example when cutting not see
whether a bucking s.der recording or s.der performance of the computer
lies. For Edius is actually quite good.

>
> Throw your Edius but in the e-bay, if you do not want to work --
> others will be happy!
If it would be easy, you know that the fierce verdongelt is.
Greeting
Matthias


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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Matthias Wendt wrote:
> Norbert Müller wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Why did you buy then Edius 5? Hinausgeschmissenes Money,
>> If you have the professional features of this program do not need!
> The problem is that you can not know beforehand whether a man with
> Program synonymous cope. And the 200 EUR for the crossgrade were
> Really cheap in comparison to the whole hobby programs by 99
> EUR, what should I buy EdiusNeo because the same little imho
> Intuitive handling, but still less than Edius 5? It is
> I do not synonymous around the Money, which I have already more than enough in
> DV editing sunk.

So I'm a champion is not synonymous with Edius5, I was already
better with Liquid Edition, which incidentally Pinnacle Studio with absolutely nothing
has in common - synonymous a professional program, the first steps were to be laboriously
learn - with LernDVDs - but then got really "liquid", now I must
halt relearn, but much is similar, if only this once Programs
usual, one forgets it is no longer synonymous, as you fear. I
Beginners me-Lernkurs purchased, the lookup - the manual is here
much more brittle. And the Lernkurs quite nicely with underwater shots of
Sport divers. Gavin Lucas makes really easy to understand and
pleasant, easy to remember.

>> There are synonymous EdiusNeo, much cheaper and with less
>> Professional features. And Sony Vegas, and still other programs.
> The fact that Sony Vegas in the Pro version ne alternative is, I had even
> Already posted. The hobby version seems synonymous only slightly reduced and
> Quite good. But the AVCHD editing is hakelig and the
> Yes it went to the outpost. One can for example when cutting not see
> Whether a bucking s.der recording or s.der performance of the computer
> Lies. For Edius is actually quite good.

I think it makes little sense to constantly monitor the program to change Edius is
so well and in the output as high quality, that it is not worthwhile,
them again to go away. And so far I have seen, does the synonymous
AVCHD editing on my 2-core calculator. Although AVCHD not stop for the
DV editing has been made, but for the look-and-erase filmmakers in Japan
and the USA. The face again at home with the pictures from vacation, it
and then .... deleted!

>> Throw your Edius but in the e-bay, if you do not work
>> Want - others will be happy!
> If it would be easy, you know that the fierce verdongelt is.

Is not because the dongle on another calculator, if the new
Owners to register - because you lose your registration anyway, it
Then only the new.

As I said - I would s.deiner Edius remain in place. If you only
once a foothold is searched, you will always have more success --
there is almost nothing that the program can not do - and that does not stop
everything is "intuitive". Edius is the organ, not the piano. ;-)

Greetings from Vienna, Norbert



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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Matthias Wendt wrote:
> Norbert Müller wrote:

Incidentally, here's some demo versions of lectures and courses:

http://lernkurse.digitalschnitt.de/Edius/EDIUS5Profikurs/main.html

One sees synonymous, * was * Edius can do - more than I do in any case :-)

Home: http://www.digitalschnitt.de/

Do not despair - it is every day more and more interesting when one with
this program works - and no, I get 'for nothing - except assistance,
I've often needed.

mfg, Norbert



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Antwort von wauzipeter:

Norbert Müller wrote:
> Matthias Wendt wrote:
>> Norbert Müller wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Why did you buy then Edius 5? Hinausgeschmissenes Money,
>>> If you have the professional features of this program do not need!
>> The problem is that you can not know beforehand whether a man with
>> Program synonymous cope. And the 200 EUR for the crossgrade were =

>> Really cheap in comparison to the whole hobby programs by 99
>> EUR, what should I buy EdiusNeo because the same little imho
>> Intuitive handling, but still less than Edius 5? It is
>> I do not synonymous around the money, of which I have already more than enough in
>> DV editing sunk.
>
> Also, I am a master is not synonymous with Edius5, I was scho =
n
> Better with Liquid Edition, which incidentally absolutely with Pinnacle Studio
> Nothing in common - synonymous a professional program, the first steps ware =
n
> Would be tedious to learn - with LernDVDs - but then got really "liquid =
d ",
> Now I must stop relearn, but much is similar, if only =

> Programs that once lived is, one forgets it is no longer synonymous, w =
ow
> You are afraid. I have looked at the Beginners-Lernkurs purchased, to =
m
> Lookup - the manual is far more brittle. And the Lernkurs rec =
ht
> With beautiful underwater photography of sports divers. Gavin Lucas makes d =
s
> Really pleasant and easy to understand, easy to remember.
>
>>> There are synonymous EdiusNeo, much cheaper and with less
>>> Professional features. And Sony Vegas, and still other programs.
>> The fact that Sony Vegas in the Pro version ne alternative is, I had =
t
>> Already posted. The hobby version seems synonymous little slimmed down and =

>> Quite good. But the AVCHD editing is hakelig and the
>> Yes it went to the outpost. One can for example when cutting not see
>> Whether a bucking s.der recording or s.der performance of the computer
>> Lies. For Edius is actually quite good.
>
> I think it makes little sense to constantly monitor the program to change Ediu =
s
> Is as good and in the output as high quality, that it is not
> Pays off, leaving them again. And so far I have seen,
> Does the synonymous AVCHD editing on my 2-core calculator.
> Although not halt AVCHD for DV editing was done, but f =
ür
> The look-and-erase filmmakers in Japan and the USA. The face again =

> Home recordings from holidays on, and then .... deleted!
>
>>> Throw your Edius but in the e-bay, if you do not work
>>> Want - others will be happy!
>> If it would be easy, you know that the fierce verdongelt is =
.
>
> Does not because the dongle on another calculator, if =

> New owner is registered - you lose anyway because your
> Registration, it is more then just the new.
>
> As I said - I would s.deiner Edius remain in place. If you have it =
st
> Once the foot is taken you will find more and more success =

> - There is almost nothing, what the program can not do - and that's =

> Does not stop everything, "intuitive". Edius is the organ, not the piano. ;-)
>
>
>
> Greetings from Vienna, Norbert

I can only confirm Norberts words. Have started with Edius 1.0.
Quicklinks read, and later People viewed, something practiced =

and after a really short time made the first success.
In case of problems, so they are easy to resolve would be synonymous, I was in
Canopusforum immediately helped.
Now I am on version 2.0 transition, is stable. AVCHD
Editing is easy. Quad Processor is synonymous supported.

Peter, also from Vienna.

--
Surpassing of Rubens painted as drawn from hunger ...


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Antwort von Matthias Wendt:

Norbert Müller wrote:

>
> Do not despair - it is every day more and more interesting when one with
> this program works - and no, I get 'for nothing - except assistance,
> I've often needed.
Thanks for the tips and yes, I do not despair yet. Perhaps learning
I am still the organ ;-)
Greeting
Matthias


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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

Matthias Wendt wrote:
> Norbert Müller wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Do not despair - it is every day more and more interesting, if
>> You with this program works - and no, I get 'nix for that --
>> Help out, I've often needed.
> Thanks for the tips and yes, I do not despair yet. Perhaps learning
> I am still the organ ;-)

It is a tremendous tool that will be learned halt. :-)

Seriously: When you receive the basic concepts of cutting and inserting
dominated gehts afloat next. Even if can hook in between, there are
even many functions that the program can.

Greetings, Norbert



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Antwort von Norbert_Müller

wauzipeter wrote:
> I can only confirm Norberts words. Have started with Edius 1.0.
> Read quick start, and later People viewed, something practiced
> And after a really short time made the first success.
> In case of problems, so they are easy to resolve would be synonymous, I was in
> Canopusforum immediately helped.
> Now I am on version 2.0 transition, is stable. AVCHD
> Edit is no problem. Quad Processor is synonymous supported.
>
> Peter, also from Vienna.

Do you Eduis 5.01 " Now comes an update to 5.1
Have only problems with Corel MF7, edition on DVD (older DV video) works
I can not.

Greetings from Transdanubia,

Norbert



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