Frage von CurtisCraig:
Hi folks,
I hope you can help me or give tips. I want with a Panasonic HDC-SD10 buy'm beginner and this is my first camera. Wanted to stay in the price range under ¬ 500 and the camera has everything I want.
Now, however, has advised me against a work colleague, as he says, the camera can only record AVCHD and this can cause problems if I fast things HOST (; for example, I want to film private football matches). Is that correct? Should I really be more then another might seek to include in MPEG? Is there sowas in this price range?
But do not want the recording to tape.
Hoping for your support and am grateful for every tip!
lg, Michi
Antwort von actaion:
AVCHD is somewhat vulnerable to fast pans and movements for smears.
Sure gibts cameras aufnehemen in Mpeg2. But that is not HD, but SD resolution.
Synonymous AVCHD has the disadvantage that it needs to cut / edit a very good calculator. Even the pure play can be problematic on a mediocre PV. And the movies that you can not burn on a normal DVD. Even the pure play can be problematic on a mediocre PV.
The question of course is how much that affects you. If you want to watch the videos just right of the Cam s.TV, of course, plays no role.
Antwort von tommyb:
Presumably, the colleague said, rather the Rolling Shutter Effect - albeit occurs regardless of the compression process. Responsible for this is that is used in the CMOS chip.
AVCHD is a reasonable person would not otherwise than MPEG2 bitrate (; eg HDV) or synonymous normal DV. Extremely rapid changes of the image can lead to reduced quality. With the AVCHD picture is painted with "too much information" softer - MPEG2 and DV, however, reveal increased Blocky education.
Antwort von CurtisCraig:
Hi,
Thank you for your quick answer: o)
With computing power, I should have no problem to have a dual-core bit, 32, 3GB Ram and a quad-core, 64bit, 6GB ram, that should be enough.
So can you recommend for my purposes, the Cam? As I said, wants private football / basketball games start, with her (on mountain hikes, so they should take small and easy to be synonymous) and mitfilmen celebrations.
Who is in "action" shots shortly is a bit blurred, I have no problem ... It should not only begin to jerk or so .... Is that with the camera? Do you know someone who has perhaps made experience with the camera has?
Thanks again for your help,'m glad about all the support: o)!
Liebe Grüße,
Michi
Antwort von Videobodo:
Hey CurtisCraig
Of course, MPEG 2 recordings can be HD. Of course, the specification only on tape. But this is not a precise look at the disadvantage!
Bodo
Ps: Do not believe everything that is dished out here s.Blödsinn.
Antwort von tommyb:
have a dual-core, 32 bit, 3GB Ram and a quad-core, 64bit, 6GB ram, that should be enough. Not necessarily. A fluid cut is even on the latest devices hardly possible without the material previously in an intermediate format to convert.
MPEG2 (; HDV) is HD, as mentioned already stored on miniDV tapes and has (to AVCHD no particular disadvantage, except, of course 1440x1080 instead of 1920x1080). HDV, however you can edit yourself with the measly, mediocre Calculator. Nativ.
Antwort von actaion:
Of course, MPEG 2 recordings can be HD. Of course, the specification only on tape. But this is not a precise look at the disadvantage!
Bodo
Ps: Do not believe everything that is dished out here s.Blödsinn. he wants to tape (but, rightly) do not. This leads me to this variant is not included. Strictly speaking, there are synonymous hard disks / card recorder, the HD Mpeg2 as the ability to record, but only a few JVC models.
MPEG2 (; HDV) is HD, as mentioned already stored on miniDV tapes and has (to AVCHD no particular disadvantage, except, of course 1440x1080 instead of 1920x1080). Certainly that has a drawback: 3 times as large files as AVCHD.
Antwort von tommyb:
Certainly that has a drawback: 3 times as large files as AVCHD. Three times as big?
HDV 1080i is at about 25 Mbit / s
AVCHD has max. 24 Mbit / s. 17 Mbps, it is synonymous and next to bottom you can turn the screw quality as well.
Three times the size yes, but then synonymous better in quality.
Antwort von CurtisCraig:
Alright, so now have a first impression of advantages and disadvantages.
I've now decided I'm going to buy the cam, have found it still synonymous 2 test reports ... all came out, for beginners, super! That's all I am not and I think that will go smoothly!
Thank you for your quick answers when you think (something important until Friday, when I buy the cam), then ur so forth, o)
Super community, thx: o)!
lg, Mike
Antwort von wolfgang:
So there is already still far more differences between AVCHD and HD mpeg. About the question of workability, where mpeg2 still has its advantages. And there are synonymous full-HD to mpeg2, at least as far as the recording as a 1920x1080 (but the real resolution is indeed rather less synonymous) in the AVCHD devices - those were the records stored on hard drive devices of JVC, both AVCHD as synonymous to mpeg-HD. Should be no ifs about tape.
Antwort von Shiranai:
Not necessarily. A fluid cut is even on the latest devices hardly possible without the material previously in an intermediate format to convert. Dummfug! Either you use the incorrect / outdated software or here laberst just what, what did you ever picked up somewhere.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Not necessarily. A fluid cut is even on the latest devices hardly possible without the material previously in an intermediate format to convert. Dummfug! Either you use the incorrect / outdated software or here laberst just what, what did you ever picked up somewhere. Premiere Pro CS4 dominated the native AVCHD editing, very tidy - much better than Vegas and Edius 5.1 (; which is still the HQ codec required).
With a quad-core and at least 4GB of RAM (; Vista/W7 64) there is really off the post! :)
Antwort von wolfgang:
So that Edius editing native AVCHD is too slow - ok. Canopus indeed continues to bank on the Canopus HQ codec, which is still excellent - and benefits such as I-frames only, but it has generated greater halt files.
In Vegas, I see it but not as there is on my 3 Ghz Quad Core with 4 GB of Ram and the native AVCHD editing quite neatly possible, whereas the 64-bit version is still likely to be somewhat more stable than the 32-bit version, what about the Preview regards .... CS4 is here whether performater than Vegas, I would like to look at times. Frankly, I'm here a little skeptical ...
And the really interesting question will halt if Windows 7 here brings significant advantages in Comparison to Vista 64, even IF the NLEs will be optimized for Windows 7 (: what day is not yet the case, so the issue is now only theoretically answerable - unfortunately).
Antwort von tommyb:
Not necessarily. A fluid cut is even on the latest devices hardly possible without the material previously in an intermediate format to convert. Dummfug! Either you use the incorrect / outdated software or here laberst just what, what did you ever picked up somewhere. And before you orally absonderst your excrement, you should read carefully times the thread. The thread creator has not given its configuration and price was not even told of his editing program.
With a quad core workstation of the finest kind can be cut synonymous liquid AVCHD - You should be moderate, but still you child.
Antwort von Shiranai:
No reason to show off here with expletives.
Your sentence is also not related to the thread creator, but you generalize that AVCHD is
basically synonymous to the most current computers can
not cut smoothly.
And that is simply wrong. You can already on nem reasonably good dual-core (; cut> 2.6 Ghz) and half-ner current graphics card quite fluently native AVCHD. Of all times apart nem current quad core, even as you give in yourself.
In a forum in which people rely on responses of professionals who create such false rumors, which then weiterverbeiten. And the next one then asks whether he prefers to grow nen tape camcorder, because he has read his quad would not be enough for AVCHD ...
And with the child, I shall take as a compliment at my age one is happy when we get younger appreciated ;-)
Antwort von Yerri:
You can already on nem reasonably good dual-core (; cut> 2.6 Ghz) and half-ner current graphics card quite fluently native AVCHD. Well fluid with a 2.6 is already a rather bold assertion. With hardware-assisted programs such as PD7 / 8 goes all right, but in the normal editing programs I mean by liquid otherwise. If one course each AVCHD clips aneinanderpappt is only just the course, but at a more comprehensive editing or color correction with multiple tracks that already looks different, even on my 3 Ghz Quad.
And look at times the minimal requirement for hardware manufacturers editing program for AVCHD material in which there are already quite high. And this information is the lower limit.
Antwort von tommyb:
No reason to show off here with expletives. Who was it started?
You can already on nem reasonably good dual-core (; cut> 2.6 Ghz) and half-ner current graphics card quite fluently native AVCHD. Of all times apart nem current quad core, even as you give in yourself. Aha. Now on it gets more specific. graphics card and processor.
Otherwise, any "tricks" come with it?
Even with Vegas, you can cut it in liquid - in a reduced quality preview. So what?
Antwort von Shiranai:
The difference is that I was not insulting, and I must express in scatology.
Yes what you ask for a current calculator?
Only one processor, the s.ein with nem hamster wheel is connected?
Eat surely clear that ne graphics card goes with it.
Antwort von Meggs:
The AVCHD is basically synonymous to the most current computers can not smoothly cut.
And that is simply wrong. You can already on nem reasonably good dual-core (; cut> 2.6 Ghz) and half-ner current graphics card quite fluently native AVCHD. For the individual user, it's pretty irrelevant what is possible in principle or in theory reasonably current computers or not.
It is important, however, what he hinkriegt with its specific system, and what is not.
For video assets can be of many current camcorders original trial download videos. So that everyone can test themselves, with what format he gets along with its current hardware and software equipment.
