Frage von naich:
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Antwort von Bernd E.:
HV30 ... ... Now comes the big question Accessories ... To get started:
http://forum.slashcam.de/canon-hv30-kaufberatung-fur-zubehor-benotigt-vt64836.html
More information can be found with the search function: The question about the accessories HV20/30 here several times already been discussed in great detail.
Antwort von beiti:
As a ball, I would - if it draufpasst (hab, unfortunately no information about the thread size is found) a Novoflex Ball 9P or something in the direction of purchase. [...] Or is it better the Cam directly to the Joby to unscrew, then I can only but not a bad swing and rotate ... A ball head is good way or only for static shots. For pans, he is completely incompetent, even if he has a little friction, as you swing more freely.
Then yes I film a lot in Shanghai for high-rise buildings in the streets or something. Or do we need more often a WW rather than a Tele. Definitely wide. Tele HV30 has more than enough (as long as you do not go on safari and lion 3 km away filming want). It is hard enough anyway, even with telephoto tolerable (ie, not totally blurred) images to make.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Hello Steffen,
You still need a sun visors, however, the real-time AF sensor on the camera front page is not hidden!
Do you really think that an IR-blocking filter is needed?
On my HV30 does not seem to have only the beginning of the HV30 an extradition Rosa stitch in the picture provided.
Antwort von ruessel:
Do you really think that an IR-blocking filter is needed?
On my HV30 does not seem to have only the beginning of the HV30 an extradition Rosa stitch in the picture provided.
Warte erstmal the summer off! In winter there is no intense infrared radiation in the nature .....
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
I have tests in rosastichige clips from the net easily filtered, something "Gamma red" taken away and was ready to Schoser ...
@ Trunk:
In the video meeting to report the user that you are in each band up to three Dropauts after capturing have. Is this for you as well?
Antwort von ruessel:
In the video meeting to report the user that you are in each band up to three Dropauts after capturing have. Is this for you as well?
Yes, but after the band no longer change places, more than 30 cassettes with the HV20 + HV30 "exposed" and zero dropouts .... have all the tapes to play on hard and was even surprised. Do I get a Sony tape recorded, I also almost always a few Droupouts in HV20/30 .... my HC3 and HC1 were not so picky ....
Antwort von beiti:
I have tests in rosastichige clips from the net easily filtered, something "Gamma red" taken away and was ready to Schoser ... But this is only a stopgap. First, any subsequent loss of color quality and undermines the Smart Rendering. Secondly, it is not only about the general Rosa-stitch, but also on radiant colors and the like.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
...... Yes, but after the band no longer change places, more than 30 cassettes with the HV20 + HV30 "exposed" ... Volume change places?
From what to what?
Your existence of earlier recommendations for the professional Panasonic cassettes are no longer?
Jens
Antwort von ruessel:
From what to what? From Sony to Panasonic Premium 6, - euro cassettes.
Antwort von naich:
...... Yes, but after the band no longer change places, more than 30 cassettes with the HV20 + HV30 "exposed" ...
Volume change places?
From what to what?
Your existence of earlier recommendations for the professional Panasonic cassettes are no longer?
Jens Hello
From what I do not know .. but he has to Panasonic AY-DVM63AMQ changed, as in his blog to read .. :-)
The werd I probably care ... and also a few cheaper (Panasonic acuh of course!)
The Canon tulip is already on my shopping list. The 2 times I need, right? For the Cam in 43mm and for the WW again in ... bigger? Do I need the filter and then 2 times?
WW What would you recommend? Have a lot of good here and some recommendation for the Raynox HD6600 read. (the original, but Canon will be better?) I've got me on the page views Raynox what makes WW so. Even though the WW of the HV30 is not the hit it is really needed so often? I would rather suspect that an additional telephoto is useful. These can be found here, however, little information. What would there be recommended?
At full telephoto ausgenutzem I can only with stand halfway unverwackelte hinbekommen picture, it's obvious to me!
And what do you think about the Joby tripod with the Novoflex Ball? This is nice and small and flexiebel. Should fine with fit into the pocket - oh yes, an ordinary pocket brauch ich auch noch! As should the Cam with and without attached lens / tulip fit inside. How are you doing this? Cutting it with the stuff or did you always pockets where everything fits mounted.
The guiding principle should always be: I want everything in one bag can be stowed and everything must be portable! If the ne Schlepperei would be great, I know now that I rarely take the Cam would! Most werd ich - ich denk mal - the Cam alone with you. Since I sound rather than Bildfetischist am, probably with the Micro on top ...
So once again summarized:
HV30
Bag
Heliopan 103 (maybe 2 times)
Tulip (evtl.2mal)
Tele or WW
Microphone
Extra batteries
Tripod + Ball
+ Tapes
+ A memory card for pictures (in my hab ne Digiknipse only 500MB MiniSD, which will not fit)
(so, nor was forgotten?)
Since so much comes together ...!
Greetings ...
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
From what to what?
From Sony to Panasonic Premium 6, - euro cassettes. Well,
it reads only as current as if you had new evidence.
I've just received an order Panasonic tapes running.
Jens
Antwort von ruessel:
Well,
it reads only as current as if you had new evidence. Neeeeee if something really goes well, I make no more experiments. I had a few months ago to restore the foreign material HDV to Sony HDV tape .... zack .... because the stock was again the time code in the HV20.
Antwort von beiti:
The Canon tulip is already on my shopping list. The tulip is not from Canon, but comes from a Chinese manufacturer and a dealer in Poland offered.
WW What would you recommend? [...] Even though the WW of the HV30 is not the hit it is really needed so often? No, they come mostly from without. You had explicitly asked after converters. :)
A good converter will cost a lot of money. And as you describe your habits ( "Most werd ich - ich denk mal - the Cam alone with you.") Remains the most serious thing anyway at home in the drawer.
I would rather suspect that an additional telephoto is useful. No, certainly not. Unless one makes very specific movies which require telephoto.
These can be found here, however, little information. Then ask yourself a look, why so little information can be found. ;)
We are here in the forum regularly funny about the fact that often cheap camcorder much stronger telephoto effect as expensive. Strong and high telephoto zoom factors are a popular selling point, because most newcomers to depart. The practical benefit, however, is rather low - at least for most filmmakers.
Look at the current times of Canon innovations and comparative, which zoom the camcorder and what they cost ...
And what do you think about the Joby tripod with the Novoflex Ball? This is nice and small and flexiebel. I wonder what you so want. Camera so that times you picture yourself running through it? Long-term exposure of the photo with function? Otherwise I do not see many benefits of a Gorillapod with ball head under a video camera would have. Anywhere you can Gorillapod firmly pinch, you can also shore; practically fulfilled the same purpose and go faster.
Antwort von AndreasF:
Hi,
an alternative to the Gorillapod is "the Pod".
Is lighter than the gorilla and fits in any pocket.
cu
A.
Antwort von naich:
Hello
The Gorillapad I can stand up and hold in all possible directions aligned. I had last time in SH only my little cheap Digiknipse with it. During the day the pics were ok, however sauschlecht night, because I do not keep quiet if I could without flash and with slow shutter speeds gearbeiet hab (ie in night mode) I got the Cam will always lead to a wall, a stone or stored somewhere, where I with the delay could work. So stand up, adjust, and enable ... and then simply no longer touch and shake until the zeitverögerte trip had taken place. At the time I would have such a small tripod can be really good use! This is such a part with you! So isses also not expensive ...
The pot, I can as a seat bag for Cameras imagine, right? As I see now, but times garkeinen Sinn drin ... :-) And also costs less than 30, - Euro!
So I look at a zoomed Groz times now no negative sides .. and better and not need than need and not have it.
I think I buy me the first cam and the necessary accessories and decide then whether I really need the tele ...
WW Raynox costs of approximately 100, - (or where there are cheaper than the ebay / Amazon?) The Fisheye gets you to about 80, - (it looks to me that as if you were so good effects-how, if you order by Quantity (Shanghai = 18 million people!) is running ... :-)
But maybe it really is better to wait until times.
If necessary I can also still in SH what to buy. Just because the stuff is - if it is original - usually more expensive than ours.
It is very important for me to make the Micro! On the lenses, I could in the worst case even abandon, but for an ordinary Micro odrentlichen sound is important to me! (as already written .. Soundfetischist am!)
Greetings ...
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
The internal micro-amplifiers in the camera is strong in the upper frequencies of 10100 Hz was circumcised (see Meßlaborwerte VAD), low frequencies are missing the camera too. How do you want as "ordinary sound with an external Micro to get?
A wide-angle attachment, I believe that in about 10% of my shots is important, he must then but I do not think his durchzoombar, finally, at least then I will really only wide scenes begin.
Antwort von naich:
Oh yes .. and where can I find this tulip?
What a Pole?
I have only this:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190280055458&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009
and here:
http://www.amazon.de/Sonnenblende-Canon-HV20-HV30-HG10/dp/B0019HKEHM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1231879327&sr=8-2
found ...
Greetings ...
Antwort von mann:
Oh yes .. and where can I find this tulip? What a Pole? (...) http://stores.ebay.de/foto-tip-eu
Have since two tulips for HV 20 auction, no problemo.
Antwort von beiti:
I had last time in SH only my little cheap Digiknipse with it. [...] If I without flash and with slow shutter speeds gearbeiet've [...] At the time I would have such a small tripod can be really good use! Photography with longer shutter speeds, it is even thought of.
It is very important for me to make the Micro! On the lenses, I could in the worst case even abandon, but for an ordinary Micro odrentlichen sound is important to me! I would like to your body, the DM-50 from Canon look, which is either stereo or directional microphone to be used. It is not necessarily phonetically to the top class (and is, thus, quite expensive), but it can be very easy on the Canon accessory shoe defer, without regard to shaky Tonkabel or batteries need to be sure.
Yes, there are better stereo microphones, and there are better directional microphones, but the benefit you all nothing when they aim for your volumniös and impractical to apply, and if you get them out of laziness are not searched.
Therefore my tip: Canon DM-50 and a Windschutzfell (eg Rovotech).
So I look at a zoomed Groz times now no negative sides .. There are reasons why one rather large zoom cameras will approve: As cheap cameras for reasons of cost savings very small image converters have come with relatively short focal lengths and small image circles, this is big zoom easy to construct. Better cameras have quality reasons somewhat larger image converter, and for that you need longer focal lengths and larger image circles, so it will be expensive, a zoom focal length range with a large building, which still delivers good quality.
Canon example:
The new HF S100 (1299 ¬) has a picture walking in 1 / 2, 6 "size and a ten times zoom 6.4 - 64mm (43.5 KB - 435 mm).
The new HF200 (899 ¬) has an image converter in 1 / 4 "size and a fifteen-fold zoom 4.1 - 61.5 mm (KB 39.5 - 592.5 mm).
In short, if a large camcorders offer zoom range, they are usually very small image converter, and hence of a not so good picture quality - especially in low light.
Who all want to have bundled benefits, the XH A1 take - with image converters in at least 1 / 3 "size and still 20-times zoom. However, this lens is very elaborately designed and correspondingly large and expensive.
In a "camcorder Travel" you can not install something. Since one has to look between the zoom and picture quality to decide. ;)
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
If you have all advantages bundled, you can take the XH A1 For tourist visits this camera is much too big and too heavy. I've experienced at a colleague on a big trip, which is what has plagued his shots as opposed to me. Uuuund CA error produced by this camera were horrible ...
Antwort von naich:
Hello
Ok, understand! I had suspected that the frequency only when internal Micro pruned so strong, and when connected to an external Micros not. Circumcised, he is yet, so the band sounds is not 1:1 on the host country ... (?)
How do you do then the times when you need a high quality Tonaufzeichung? Saves you will set the tone for example, parallel to another carrier (a small hard drive or something?)?
Greetings ...
Antwort von Jitter:
Peter Bruno is right, the internal microphone amplifier cuts the high frequencies, which are also affected by external microphones. Nevertheless, with a good sensitivity and external quality sound audibly better. Such as hang times a Rode Stereo Videomic to a HV 30 and compared with the integrated micro. You'll be amazed.
Antwort von naich:
The internal micro-amplifiers in the camera is strong in the upper frequencies of 10100 Hz were pruned Hi .. Question:
Hab nochmal Wolfgang's blog just to HV30 and HV 100 read.
As time provides a measurement of the HV30 compared to the HV20 (Micro external input)
Da gehts but clearly to 16kHz high!
http://www.fxsupport.de/blog/07_08.html
Greetings ...
Antwort von gunman:
For tourist visits this camera is much too big and too heavy. I've experienced at a colleague on a big trip, which is what has plagued his shots as opposed to me. Uuuund CA error produced by this camera were horrible ... [/ quote] Hello,
At the moment I am also against the decision to me a journey zuzulegen camera. I will be in 3 months stay in Oman and from there I would like to have a few nice pictures bring.
Currently, I own a Canon XM1. The only camera I've found that a 20 times zoom and HDV, and really not much bigger than the XM1 is the Sony FX 7 (with the corresponding wide-angle attachment, because the standard is wide but a bit unterdimensioniert).
Gunman
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Laboratory have published Geigentiel ..., you must stop the truth out looking ...
Antwort von ruessel:
Peter Bruno is right, the internal microphone amplifier cuts the high frequencies, which are also affected by external microphones. Yes, even through repeated often in forums of the alleged curtailment of ext. Microphone jack, it is not correct ....
Antwort von naich:
Hello
Pruning upwards - at 10kHz. my insight would also make little sense. I hardly think the band mechanism such as a 12kHz hum created. This will be a lot of light somewhere below the 1000 Hz ... (pure speculation ..)
The difference Internal Micro - External Micro Wolfgang on page Besispiel is enough, which has an external Micro rausholen is there still.
Actually it should be easy to figure out what the entrance still packs Micro. Just a note to include in its frequency is increasing steadily ... From the point where the camera is again nothing more is closing ...
I will make my times when I've ...
And by other threads, I also once again become'm unsure.
Just a comparison between the SX1 IS, and the HV30 times I would be interested .. (although I am also aware of the SX1 is no way to connect a Micros has ...)
20 times optical zoom but should not be a problem .. with the Raynox 2025, for example, is not it? (and yes .. I am also aware of the large lens, 20x Canon sure is better!)
@ Wolfgang: may I ask what times cheaper tapes (Panasonic) du as an alternative to expensive DVM63AMQ's would you recommend?
I do not always just about the most expensive recording tapes. If I were just for fun in the area rumfilme times can also be a better band .. where the material filmed an dropouts can handle.
And yet perhaps ne stupid question: how many times you can play the tapes? Can I have 100 new material to play on it or when is final .. when I have a loss of quality?
Greetings ...
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
I use the Panasonic AY-DVM60FE in 10er-Pack, at the other HDV camera, almost three years without a dropout. I suppose at some point and archive once the cut there. Then comes the next tape ..., since I watch videos with the camera is so ...
Antwort von naich:
Hello
In principle, of course I can also record multiple.
For example, wild drauflosgefilmt .. later, everything on the plate pulled .. then cut off what nix is back on the same band. Or the things I can not necessarily be on the band must have archived with the high quality tape .. Later on the plate and then pushed the band re-recorded. As in principle the tape as a cheap way to abuse the cache.
How often does it work? Or there is no restriction as in the flash memory ...
Greetings ...
Antwort von r.p.television:
In principle, each HDV tape recorded only once, because often the band points at which the head drum in the break position rotates take little damage. These are available on the current recording less disturbing, because there always a new scene starts. By the next fall but discontinued in the middle of a scene, and very disturbing.
I have noticed and run such measures are not saving more. Is also nonsense in today's tape prices.
Exception can be made if the tape from the beginning to the end durchläft, without pause.
Antwort von Secretstar:
Laboratory have published Geigentiel ..., you must stop the truth out looking ...
Where? After reading the source? Aufgeschnapptes or just rumor?
Kleiner Tip naich:
Stay in a band type.
What struck me about the sound still interested, I have found it a degree of latency to a few milliseconds there.
I hear the audio signal via headphones that it comes by a few milliseconds delay there.
Knows someone what's wrong or how they can remedy the situation?
Greeting Secret Star
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Where? After reading the source? Aufgeschnapptes or just rumor? Source for example: video active DIGITAL edition 4 / 2008 page 44
Please do not be nervous ...
Antwort von Secretstar:
Please do not be nervous ... nöööööööööööööööööööööööööööö ...
I'm just on your website and just read the article on Super 8
Have a look Nizo cameras and other optics Wechel had.
Had the weekend in my more than 10 years of vacant housing a suitcase with a Nizo Integral found. Beautiful sweetie.
Greeting Secret Star
Antwort von naich:
Hello
Ok, understood! But why should I when a band places to stay. As with the producers, I know I have someone here said, but I can not if I keep trying the Panasonic tape change?
5, - Euro for 1 band is not very little, especially if I only 1mal can use ...
Is there really a delayed recording of image and sound? Have a look at the example videos that geachted, but could not find ...
And as always Meanwhile almost a HV30 Threat Advisory draus has become, once again ne question:
I've got my videos from Wolfang Blog heruntergelsaden, by default VCL player lost from the edges vurchtbar! In the video setting Bob, as he recommends on his side, bucking the images in Mean (all under Video - Deinterlace) läufts good. However, I noticed that the pictures / movies here abslut 2dimensional look. What the ligt? Some example videos in Vimeo, however wonderful 3dimensional! Was there a different mode while recording using a special lens or upstream? (on page Wolgnags it seems only to have been the Cam, which runs ... without additional lens)
Moreover, the videos in Wolfgang's Blog at every movement, especially in the swing extremely agitated! That is uncomfortable for the eyes! Maybe I also just caught the wrong attitude ...
Questions about questions ...
Thanks for your help!
Greetings ...
Antwort von tillbaer:
@ naich:
The delayed sound affects only the direct control of the camera during recording. I have an estimated 10 milliseconds, so you can really live.
When operating with a certain band locations are always the smallest particle abrasion on the head drum back. Now another band with a different chemical composition is used, so they could wear the old with the new particle composition react, lubricate, clumps form, ... It is therefore advisable for a variety to stay. I have in all the forums so far but only one tape discovered with several users having problems: This is the Sony Premium (quite cheap yellow). Many tend to be heavily Panasonic tapes.
The videos are unedited by Wolfgang comparisons in the rough version. They are used for technical purposes of comparison. The videos on youtube and Vimeo are often much Colorgrading, ie post-treatment and often also with DOF adapters shot - hence the different look.
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von naich:
Hello
Ok, thank you!
That is, if I only videos with the cam and turn this post I have not such a result as with Wolfgang on the page. So for a post one can not get around ...
Thank you very much!
I will then possibly later with the question of the right bearbeitunssoftware turn back to you ...
:-)
Greetings ...
