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Aerial photographs by remote drone of thomas movie - 30 Jan 2009 11:07:00
Homemade aerial photographs by a model plane with real-time camera control - an alternative to the more static-like hubschrauber Quadcopteraufnahmen - Newsmeldung and Diskussionsthread: die Lehmann Aviation LP960/LV580 Drohne kann je nach Model für Photo- (LP960) bzw für Video recordings (LV580) genutzt werden - sei es zu ganz persönlichen Spionagezwecken, Forschungsaufgaben oder einfach für tolle Bilder aus der Vogelperspektive (wer wollte nicht schon mal seinen Film with einem Kameraanflug a la Hollywood beginnen?). Das Photomodell besitzt eine 12 Megapixel Camera with 28mm Lens (and kann synonymous Video with 640x480 Pixel bei 30 Halbbildern pro Sekunde auf Micro SD Karte aufnehmen), das Videomodell LV580 nimmt in MPEG2 in DVD-Qualität auf Compact Flash auf - fürs Frühjahr 2009 ist synonymous noch ein Model namens LVHD angekündigt, das 720p HD aufnehmen wird. Das Ding wird per Hand losgeworfen and bleibt maximal 35 Minuten in der Luft. Der leider noch etwas abschreckende Kostenpunkt für das gesamte System (inklusive Flugkontrollen): rund 13.000 Euro - da lohnt sich der Eigenbau. Ein recht schönes Demovideo gibts here hier.

Quadcopteraufnahmen - Newsmeldung and Diskussionsthread: die Lehmann Aviation LP960/LV580 Drohne kann je nach Model für Photo- (LP960) bzw für Video recordings (LV580) genutzt werden - sei es zu ganz persönlichen Spionagezwecken, Forschungsaufgaben oder einfach für tolle Bilder aus der Vogelperspektive (wer wollte nicht schon mal seinen Film with einem Kameraanflug a la Hollywood beginnen?). Das Photomodell besitzt eine 12 Megapixel Camera with 28mm Lens (and kann synonymous Video with 640x480 Pixel bei 30 Halbbildern pro Sekunde auf Micro SD Karte aufnehmen), das Videomodell LV580 nimmt in MPEG2 in DVD-Qualität auf Compact Flash auf - fürs Frühjahr 2009 ist synonymous noch ein Model namens LVHD angekündigt, das 720p HD aufnehmen wird. Das Ding wird per Hand losgeworfen and bleibt maximal 35 Minuten in der Luft. Der leider noch etwas abschreckende Kostenpunkt für das gesamte System (inklusive Flugkontrollen): rund 13.000 Euro - da lohnt sich der Eigenbau. Ein recht schönes Demovideo gibts This is an auto-generated entry





Antwort von aircam:

Why my professional comment has disappeared ...

While it is interesting about such pilots to report, but the operation
is usually not permitted in Germany. This means that it makes little sense
here to refer to things which do not so seriöserweise may be sold. We are talking of course about commercial use



Antwort von Pillermännchen:

"aircam" wrote:
While it is interesting about such pilots to report, but the operation
is usually not permitted in Germany.

Says who?



Antwort von mentao:

Sooner's probably times actually banned ...

In Germany, was until 1990 a permit for aerial photography. Under Article 37 of the 3rd Cleanup Act law, this authorization for aerial photography omitted. However, under § 109 para g 2 [1] of the Penal Code synonymous Defense Appropriations from aircraft and military operations, facilities and equipment has not photographed.

Under German law, it is also not allowed, by means of recordings from planes or helicopters into the protected privacy of a person follicle. (BGH, decision of 9 December 2003, AZ: VI ZR 373/02 - aerial photographs from the house)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftbildfotografie



Antwort von LightTrancefer:

My nice neighbor Mr. sowas operates alongside the professional
33.000 ¬ the pretty thing I think ...
s.190 ¬ use
unfortunately, is only dadrunter ne digitalkamera
http://www.rent-a-drone.de/



Antwort von emu:

Heretical question: is for 13k euro synonymous not just an RC helicopter to modify that one as an HD Cam built and manage the bottom of it?

I think in principle I find the idea of a good drone, but a helicopter is just my opinion, whether the possibility of floating the better opportunities and should not be quite as low-intensive. Has anyone ever found a guide somewhere how to make an ordinary Cam (minimum 720p) in a model helicopter can tinker and nötlig what else is?

The only problem will probably be synonymous fly the heli to learn, because it represents a significant challenge question ;-).



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude Emu

So for 13K, I build you one and an RC Heli QuadCopter (drone) with HDV Resolutionund 2 controllers and video Walkmans ;-)

See it

- A petrol RC Heli around 1000, - Euro
- A OuadCopter ca 1000, - Euro
- 2 x HDV Fingercams ca 2500, - Euro
- 2 x Graupner MC12 it (control-/ long-distance operations) or higher ca (max) 700, - Euro
- 2x Video Walkman Sonyca 2400 EURO
- 2x 2 GHz Radio Transmitter ca 1000, - Euro
- Teachers and the unit Softwear to about 500, - Euro

So Heli Cams QuadCopter or recordings are interesting times each instance, the projects presented here are always a bit exaggerated in the price.
Well it is holding with the economy and the resulting prices ;-)

Alla

MfG
B. DeKid

PS:

With its teacher / pupil modified Graupner MC12 Remote control I have about 30 hours via simulator used to control an RC helicopter to be able to. That works now synonymous in RL (Real Life) with no after each flight (experimental) new rotor blades to buy ;-)



Antwort von aircam:

Hello;

Bzgl: who says:

Now it's not about the aerial photography (which is largely allowed), but the commercial use of such missiles - that is not a flight model

I even know your neighbor who is quite pampig (probably why?)

Order with such a Dingens to be able to work, you need a
sog ascent permit (I), which is not so easy going to get is.
In addition, the AE typically an experienced person
admitted in the visual part of the flight may fly only. So video glasses
for the pilot is prohibited.
Something like, the broker goes to renta dingens, pack the unit in the
Trunk and makes a few Immopics - this is not legally permitted.

Thus, s.190 euros etc. rather questionable typical image rights
at least in the magnitude (ie, print and Internet-HP)
Also included are standard costs ... So it works best if
for a private person around the corner - per Picture 280-500 are due ...

So you leave its official approval dochmal show otherwise
He has no business basis.
The rise of approval, not any wiping of UAV manufacturers. There could be something to climb and the meaning
Flight permit would be free ... That is not true! The Manufacturer
already got one on the cap.

Of course, a model insurance offcourse.

Thus, the manufacturer of this Dröhnchen to my knowledge only to ascend Bundeswehr area - that is defacto not even on his company site, I would like new when NRW mittlererweile sowas exhibits.

I know all the air and various country offices ministries ditto some of ...
inside ...

What you write is so mentao incorrect. The photograph of a
Cottage is not verbietbar, etc. It must be the personal rights
maintained, so no indiscreet pictures / faces, etc. ...

That means I may even get to fly over its land to recordings
To make ...

@ emu: Obviously, you should have to recognize that yes
I do something - with legal AE course.

(To make it clear, it's not about competition but about
Leutz, operating illegally endangering the genre)

The thing what the neighbor has to fly with me 3 times with loose payload
and Plattformvollstabilisierung (!)-which offers no military supplier btw ....
and the most expensive Quadros is currently at 80000, --
Here is a prototype flying in the wind, it looks nice landing leg movement in relation

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q16T00MKsc

(Btw I'm a cofounder UAVP ...)

What these pilots are concerned .. cold coffee ... I honestly doubt
as with 30 fps interlaced Vids bring good ...
Another problem with this is his flying wing Siluette that one
clean hardly recognizes. ie flying under visual is almost impossible
Flight and plane after camera is as I said prohibited.
Moreover, according to strong video downlink transmitters are problematic and ditto genehmigungspfichtig ...

The point is stop, which is quite finished with lunar prices halt
or my engineering costs my company so nix.
Ergo is a drone in the sense of purchase rather sehrfragwürdig definable ROI.

And as I said, without official permission is not commercial use.

Greets

Robert
www.aerovision.de



Antwort von emu:

"aircam" wrote:
Obviously, one should have to recognize that yes
I do something - with legal AE course.


Now yes :-)

That was synonymous more a question out of interest - I had me a few years ago, times synonymous with the topic set, but then it cost-and time synonymous (model is interesting but not really cheap and it takes some time, before a helicopter synonymous dominated) again.
The problem I have is synonymous seen that I am none of these tiny cameras with 640x resolution Use something, but that it should be possible a "right" Camera (HVX 200 or HPX171) in a model to integrate with you during the flight synonymous Picture of the still camera can be controlled (blind record something makes no sense).

I guess times that a model for 1k euro these cameras can not bear and if it is synonymous larger models are likely the whole thing is technically not so easy to realize. Whether I really had the courage, the heli with the expensive camera upwards to send remains synonymous nor the question :-).






Antwort von LightTrancefer:

nothing against my nice neighbors
with the rentadrone I think is different - they have their people everywhere and to come and steer the thing - it will of course synonymous with ...



Antwort von aircam:

Hello,

the double hull like this can take a part. So surely
always a Heli / Quadrocopter be. But only look forward largely because of air resistance is exorbitant.

For photo missions is totally different unit is used.

Generally depends on what you want. If this really
a FX7 etc to be ported:

So a helicopter should have a low vibration-powered
So Hochleistungselektoantrieb-Jetturbine or both is under 10k
unrealisable. Special gyro platforms like expensive - ergo the
Videocam is still the cheapest ...

My Quadrocopter would this drive technically "-up" to
So would the synonymous - it would only return more than 5 kg from what
Ministry Luftamt and not wanted ..

The typical mid-sized city or ne etc which do not pay for something.
There must have their own concepts ago, according to the market to be.
So if video, then max 600g heavy with zb p 720/60

They want resolutive cm, blickwinkel sound recordings - has videos
None yet definite I wanted-so that the pilots are relatively small
can - My work horse weighs 300g with Cam ready to go just 1 kg
and creates wenns be up to 500m Height ... that's enough for almost everything
Special cases handled my Quadrocopter if, for example, no sensible
Landing opportunity is available ...

Bzgl renta drones, yes Francisemäßig because they want to make, so that
in each grid square of a sitting ... Only that does not work - #
firstly because they are not able to AEs with 99% hydrochloric Security
and secondly, others just as I have long been on the market have the expertise to not only Schönstwetter to fly, etc.
From the better camera technology not to mention ...



Antwort von LightTrancefer:

wrong post sorry



Antwort von Modellflug Filmer:

Very interesting are synonymous, nor the camera systems of GLOBEL FLIGHT
You have a camera in a model airplane with a 2.4 GHz transmitter and a receiver s.Boden and a video goggles and a head s.besten track then moves the camera in (on) Model as the head of the pilots, and with a patch antenna can ranges of over 800 meters can be achieved.

http://www.immersionsflug.de/



Antwort von mentao:

"aircam" wrote:
What you write is so mentao incorrect. The photograph of a
Cottage is not verbietbar, etc. It must be the personal rights
maintained, so no indiscreet pictures / faces, etc. ...

That means I may even get to fly over its land to recordings
To make ...


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftbildfotografie#Rechtliches

For me, privacy is not exactly the same as the right s.eigenen Picture ..
But I'm not a lawyer synonymous.


Summary:
Paparazzi beware: According to German law, it is not allowed to peek over fences or other barriers or aids such as a telephoto lens, ladders or synonymous airplanes or helicopters to use in the protected privacy of a (prominent) Person intrude.
Celebrities beware: To determine whether your rights are infringed by publications in print or on the Internet, a judge is always synonymous with your own actions into account. If you take too much of that price there (in this example even aerial photographs of the cottage in his book published), the third is to publish the same information may not be able to say.





Antwort von aircam:

Hello,

GLOBE FLIGHT Bzgl, so such camera systems.

Typically you can s.VideoOut cut down the photo left

Flying under the meaning Videocam FPV is officially not allowed, because one
ausweichpflichtig is. Added to that you climb lt authorization
after sight (not on camera view or video glasses etc)
Such fliers move. This alternative requirement is including the reason why
for example, no drones are high-voltage power line, etc.

This alternate requirement synonymous for normal model airplane, where it already
is questionable why a model airplane, on the rare 300m fly high
Cessna Manntragenden a dodge, since the minimum flight altitude Bzgl net has really take note. His MFA is not
500 feet (150m) above ground but 600m beyond the circling.

DH synonymous photographer has an air without dedicated derogation
synonymous over agricultural steppe at the 600m observed.

Bzgl mentao: WIKI is not the Holy Grail or similar laws Despite extensive
Knowledge in case I have there (synonymous) nix writes ....

The sky is free and anyone can within the allowed flight altitude
usebensolche photographs.

The sticking point is the protected or where privacy begins.
In this sense, Google Earth, etc. should be turned off. Initial
in these cars to scan through the road and without
Consideration Hinz and Kunz scan ...

How many celebrities will be ideally a regular 3D Sperrgebiet
and this is typically not.

The typical paparazzi seldom interested in the property, but
the photocopy of the stars in - so let's say spicy ....

Bzgl abroad-for example, France is synonymous btw for ground photography
Architect Law. If you want to scan ie a building and use
whose consent is required.

In this respect, quite a difference whether one typical landscape photos or targeted, so sensationslüstig sowas ausschlachtet.

Bei mir ists in any event so that the Leutz pleased if you as
House with the picture is ....