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Frage von Supe:


I was asked a friend of a camcorder-purchase advice, but can give through lack of experience really no contest, because I myself have only one XL1. But I know where I can get an opinion.

As for a good budget MiniDV Cam are max. EUR 3,500 are available. Good sharpness and one lichstarke Optics should be. The handling does not need to be simple, but plausible. Operational area is already a semi-professional short film.

Since raises the key question of HDV or not? The material should preferably be easily edited s.einem sufficient dimensonierten PC under Appro 2 to then land on DVD. Locks himself as HDV does not already? At least, ought to the HD-filmed material to 4:3 and 720 dots are converted, and conversion time = quality loss? And to see is the non-HDV-TV owners will not yet anyway. Is that so?

How is the recording quality of FX1E? The original film s.einen you look at the price not cometh, is indeed clear, but the picture is synonymous for larger dimensions sharp and contrasting enough?

And: Are there good, better, and equally expensive alternatives to this Cam? My XL1 suits him very well, but for the money it should of course be a bit more modern. And between this and so are most of the action worlds ... Offers from him so I would like a personal affinity play an Caon, but mom. I suppose it is decided between Sonyand JVC, right?

Thanks for your tips & Enlightenment!
Supe

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote: At least, ought to the HD-filmed material to 4:3 and 720 dots are converted, and conversion time = quality loss?

That would be a shame to lose the whole HD-quality. View All in HDV, but was never more fun. The XL1 is thrown away because ...

If something is on DVD, then there is life out of the FX1 in PAL DV with 16:9, it is the best life convert. The converted material is better than of the XL1. But always start in HDV, you can spend it even in HDV or DV?

Who speaks for video footage of film look that does not know what he was talking to and would be better still to record on film. Of course there but in the Post Production buy some additional filters that mimic s.Interlaced material film look. There are still synonymous for camera attachments, etc. ..

HDV in P-Pro 2.0 with native HDV original footage of the cut-camcorder, a P4-3, 2GHz with 2GB RAM and a 256MB GraKa (ATI X800, sh should. Maps recommendation from Adobe) have the PC already, you can synonymous Editing HDV footage properly.

To look at the HDV transport streams with up to 25Mbit burns 22Minuten of the material in a simple data DVD s.and or submit it to disk, it plays via the network player (Pinnacle SC200!) True to the HDTV via the high-resolution Komponenteneingan.

Who HDV has been created and processed, no longer goes back to DV ...

We hear the FX1 soon gets a successor (FX7?). There are still other HDV camcorder ready, just look look at the HP of Sony, Canon and JVC. No longer the HDV camcorder, "the first hour of" Buy!

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Antwort von Axel:

Consent to Bruno, and the following note form:
1.FX-1 class for good Gebrauchtpreis 16:9 DV Cam!
2.Downkonvertieren not have iConvert but downskalieren as HDV and in AAE with simultaneous loss deinterlacing (link).
3.Filmlook without plugins synonymous with light drama, gamma and color correction to 100%!

Alternatives would be the new Canon, HDV successor to the XM-2.

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Antwort von Supe:

Hello Bruno, Hello Axel!

Those are two very schonmal suitable answers.
The film with the look I was already clear, though, I think that coming Magic Bullet Or EasyMovieColors its price & features, and accordingly the computer hardware that look a great deal closer.

Canon of the alternatives is beyond the fin. Framework, although the parameters are read at least very impressive. At JVC, I have actually been the disasters with my DVX9 JCV and 10 (E01 - relase & retouch battery) an aversion. The newer models still blow up all the fin. Frame.

As XM Calculator is an Athlon 64 4.2 GHz with 4 GB of RAM and four times 340 GB S-ATA II HDDs and an X1800 XT PCX available. I think that should be enough performance.

The Runterskalieren with the proper deinterlacing goes APPro2 probably not, right? This one must have Newswire, right?

Supe

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Antwort von wolfgang:

The newly announced Canon HDV-priced models are likely to fall within the FX1 - but come erst not improve with the already existing model.

Whether it is necessary to deinterlace HDV2 material, nor to the yet more complicated way in AU, which has been mentioned here - well, you should look at the material synonymous times on his HD-Ready screen, and then consider that if I Step really need.

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Antwort von Supe:

Silly question, but I forgot who is a Picture / Video of mail included a small FX1E? I would like to see the difference.

Thanks if possible!
Supe

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Antwort von ruessel:

Simply, the suction of my blog down:

http://www.fxsupport.de/03.html

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Antwort von Axel:

@ ruessel:
Your pictures are sharpened in my eyes deterioration. You're always with your sharpness! The FX-1 does - that's right - relatively smooth pictures for HDV, I would say synonymous, which makes XL 1 soft images for an IR. If you look on a bridge railing, you will see each rung double contour?
The colors could be a bit crunchy, otherwise there's mEsPicture not complain much.

"wolfgang" wrote: The newly announced Canon HDV-priced models are likely to fall within the FX1 - but come erst

According to Canon Germany (product map download) the Prosumermodell XH-A1 will cost 3999 ¬, but similar yes were synonymous, the FX-1 Price of Sony. In fact, they then got after some searching for around the ¬ 1000 less.

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Antwort von ruessel:

Quote: @ ruessel:
Your pictures are sharpened in my eyes deterioration. You're always with your sharpness!


Well, as always in life is a matter of taste. I have all Sony HDV cameras here are synonymous and therefore can compare the image quality of HDV, well, how is it that generates an HC1 is an optical "crisp sharp" picture and the FX1 in the direct image comparison even blurry effect? The HC1 has a lot more pixels horizontally than FX1/Z1's and it will record the data stream in real time with just downscale simple (of 1920 to 1440 pixels). An upscale FX1/Z1 needs with the same resolve.

I think the HDV sharpening with "unsharp mask" is a good solution without getting this double edge to this double edge, unfortunately, makes an already FX1/Z1 Of all alone .....

But who knows, maybe Canon now makes it the ultimate HDV camcorder on the market ..... unfortunately I can not believe this, this is supposed to use the same sensor on the H1, that is synonymous again, only one (Picture) Compromise: HOT but strong color noise.

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Antwort von Supe:

Hi Wolfgang!

So convinced that an already pretty pictures, what sharpness (I have the ungeschäften considered without regard to Gain). I think that my friend what good s.der hand. We get the cam for 3200 EUR from your dealer. A Micro's Puschel for myself häckel, Tripod, and Lighting, we have already.

Question, go Batteries and generic as the term of the original Batteries is? Which tapes Resorts has possibly rauskristallisiert as particularly good? Is there perhaps special accessories specifically for this cam, which was to have one?
Where do we obtain one webcam everywhere EUR 3,900 for costs 2.900 EUR?

Thank you all for your efforts and the exciting comparisons and opinions! Here one feels in good hands.

Supe

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote: ... how is it that generates an HC1 is an optical "crisp sharp" picture ...

The HC1 does a picture using image processor with interpolation. In tests, it has been found to be already done five times actual lines, six lines are so electronical dazugezaubert that there is not at all. Perhaps the reason seems a bit sharper ... In a circular line bundles makes the HC1 camcorder any more mistakes. Similarly, I have not seen in test images of the FX1 camcorder.

All a matter of taste ...

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Antwort von Axel:

"Supe" wrote: Where do we obtain one webcam everywhere EUR 3,900 for costs 2.900 EUR?

3200 ¬ are okay. My buddy bought one of the first models directly as a demonstration model of a fair cut for smooth, ¬ 3000. Since she had a couple of hours head down.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Yes, sowas times already happened. I spent my time slightly for 2500, but received from a reliable source.

For Internet retailers, the FX1 is nothing new that led to the 3000 Euro.

http://www.geizhals.at/eu/a118027.html

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Antwort von Supe:

Hello!

Thanks synonymous to price tips. We'll see. What occurred to me: Is there a kind of slow-motion effect? That is, there are possibilities of delay already in the device itself?

gruß,
Supe

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Not with the FX1, as far as I know.

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Antwort von Supe:

The question asked time reversed:
Provides a process with AFX resulting sharper images with a better outcome than, say, an XL1, as I have already tried it? That would certainly be - in addition to the above mentioned is - an argument for my friend, zuzulegen also the program.

Supe

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Antwort von Supe:

So, now it becomes concrete.

Unfortunately I had to wait for the SonyF1XE 10 days, while a Canon XH-A1 HDV camcorder for $ 100 more at once be had. Now I wanted to compare, but it is not yet tested here in the DB.

Question therefore: Which of the two is the better? Especially interesting for me would be the AF behavior and the sharpness.

Gruß,
Supe

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Antwort von Mato:

Okay, have already found an acceptable answer: http://forum.slashcam.de/hdv-kamera-bis-3000-euro-gesucht-vt42761.html

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Bruno Peter" wrote: (...) Who speaks for video footage of film look that does not know what he was talking to and would be better still to record on film. (...)

I think this is wrong and presumptuous.

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