Frage von inwa:
(update)
HDTV Television to support a consumer-copy protection system and even provide for HDTV reception is often worse than TV images optimized for today's standard is PAL.
In addition, HD-ready television to support all HDTV formats and are therefore not Future-safe. HDTV CRT TVs and rarely worth it in terms of image quality are still ahead. Even for computer use, many HD ready ridge are not suitable.
From a viewing distance of approximately four times its five-to the Height of TVs, according to calculations by the initiative to safeguard the rights of users of digital systems and media (Inwa) is hardly a difference between PAL and HDTV longer recognizable. When the 5-6 times the picture height is watching can see only a very small difference explains synonymous Reinhard Otter, Managing Editor of the magazine "video". The magazine has objectively compared usauf a booth at the IFA HDTV with PAL.
HDTV on PAL equipment needs but is usually from 7-6 times the picture height are considered, so that it is as good as the 5-4x the Height on a PAL device, because not the Picture of Television and have the same grid. Christian Garrels, who is responsible for HDTV at Pro7/Sat1: "There must not delude ourselves, PAL is usually terrible on HDTV television sets. The transmitter will be the HDTV test commitment after the World Cup, but expects to be PAL program which is broadcast on the HDTV channel, even high, thereby causing the quality of PAL to HDTV televisions Pro7/Sat1 be better than the quality of other PAL channels on the HDTV display. In the normal PAL program will continue to feature films in reduced Resolutiongesendet letterbox, so that a Comparison to HDTV is not meaningful.
What look for when TVs purchase one? 1. "The traditional CRT technology experience, providing top-images. Tube TVs are the first choice when image quality is much in demand for little money." video (10/2005 Page 66). Because CRT monitors are better than professional monitors, they are of television stations as a reference common one.
2. They do not be blinded numbers of pixels. "On the actual picture quality, the resolution does not (...) Panal says a lot: As with other TV technologies will decide, that the signal processing of the device." video (10/2005 Page 61). In contrast to tube TVs Flat Panel Televisions problems have to present an image resolution that is not their own Resolutionenspricht. Even so it is of advantage when a flat panel is not only the American Resolutionvon 480 lines, but for the local PAL resolution (576 lines) was designed.
3. When you purchase one tv, you should leave it to the dealer show in general and in the distance to the device as we are synonymous distance of the home set TV to the couch later really has to get an impression. Anyone interested in HDTV, should respect the fact that his 1080 line Resolutionund normal television resolution is presented and then compare it with other devices.
4. The DVI interface, the HDMI interface, which often causes problems to be preferred. Amateur filmmakers should make sure that synonymous a FireWire interface is present. It is advantageous when the Television as synonymous frames of a DVD player accepts (Progessive Scan).
5. HD ready is not Gütessigel. There is no check whether the Manufacturer complies with the requirements. HD ready is contrary to the promises zunkunftssicher not synonymous, since not need to support all HDTV formats. Currently, as the 1080 line is Resolutiongesendt, it is better if HDTV Fernsher this vertical Resolutionhaben synonymous and these frames can Resolutionverarbeitet. This is not guaranteed for HD ready devices. It is still unclear whether the standard has a chance in this country, but in the U.S., which is known as 1080p format prior to the introduction, the disk systems that can be used synonymous Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. The disadvantages of 1080i (sent Halbbbilder) and 720p (broadcast frames) account. Most HD ready devices have only one 700ter lines resolution. The currently used in Europe 1080i HDTV format because they are poor
Antwort von inwa:
Viewing distances - 16:9 letterbox to 16:9 TV = 5.4 times the picture height
- PAL to 16:9 at 480 TV lines = 5 times the picture height (ideally 6)
- 16:9 Anamorphic PAL to 540 TV lines = 5 times the picture height (ideal)
- 4:3 and PAL on PAL TV = 4 times the picture height (ideally 5, but in fact most
4/Bauartbeding already partially 6)
- NTSC to HDTV unit = 6.6 times the picture height (ideal)
- HDTV 1080 to PAL 540 lines device = 4 times the picture height
- HDTV 1080 700ter to HDTV devices = 4 times the picture height
- HDTV 720 = 3 times the picture height (ideally 4)
- HDTV device 720 to 1080 = 4.9 times the picture height (ideal)
- HDTV 1080 = 2 times the picture height (ideally 2.5)
The figures assume good conditions. The ideal viewing distance is the theoretical limit, s.der the Picture can not be more clearly seen when the Resolutionerhöht synonymous. The optimum viewing distance is lower and varies according to personal requirements and the
TV conditions.
The difficulties of the different HDTV format significantly. HDTV is 1080 looked at 700ter devices, it has roughly the same quality as PAL when it is viewed from the Height of the 4-fold TVs. HDTV is considered 720 to HDTV devices 1080s, it reached only at the 4.9 times the Height his ideal quality and is thus only slightly below the ideal viewing distance of 540 PAL TVs, from 5 times the Height of the TVs. PAL, however, is seen on an HDTV device with 700ter or 1080s lines of resolution must be increased, the distance is usually at 6,6 times the picture height to achieve the perfect picture quality.
zum Bild The HDTV Picture 1080s was in the PAL and HDTV 720s Resolutioneines TVs with screen size 80cm converted and then extrapolated to the standard monitor resolution of 72dpi again. Originally, it was 96dpi. HDTV 1080 has a 80cm Television 70dpi. HDTV 720 has 47dpi and PAL 38dpi. If you want to calculate you. Just send a request s.Chancen.info c / o gmx.net send, it will be happy Stillimage course sand in the original resolution.
Here Auschnittsvergrößerungen for Comparison.
The Picture of PAL distance (4 times the picture height) corresponds to about this conversion:
zum Bild zum Bild Everything is at a camera with a 1080i picture taken is not 100% in the focal plane is different even from closer examination of almost PAL. The vielbeschorene "depth information" there is not so.
As a PC monitor and an HD display is not the PAL orginale Resolutionhat can not be compared directly HDTV with PAL. Formula for conversion:
(Seen before Picture (cm) = cm size) divided by the distance (cm) times the viewing distance, 1 (60cm for the viewing distance to the PC)
Antwort von inwa:
PAL ideal viewing distances
16:9 Television
70cm diagonal = 1.72 m = 2.26 m on HDTV equipment
80cm diagonal = 1.95 m = 2.57 m on HDTV equipment
90cm diagonal = 2.20 m = 2,91 m on HDTV equipment
100cm diagonal = 2.45 m = 3.23 m on HDTV equipment
110cm diagonal = 2.69 m = 3.56 m on HDTV equipment
120cm diagonal = 2.94 m = 3.88 m on HDTV equipment
4:3 Television
30cm diagonal = 0.72 - 0.90 m
40cm diagonal = 0.96 - 1.20 m
50cm diagonal = 1.20 - 1.50 m
60cm diagonal = 1.44 - 1.80 m
70cm diagonal = 1.68 - 2.10 m
80cm diagonal = 1.92 - 2.40 m
90cm diagonal = 2.16 - 2.70 m
Data for the visible screen diagonal. Its design may be the optimal viewing distance above the ideal.
Antwort von inwa:
Theoretical viewing distances
The eye sees of 3.5 meters under good conditions, objects of 1mm size.
Lower limit = 3000 divided by (number of lines divided by 2.54 times the image height) = 3000 divided by the dpi resolution Fused from the lower limit of the red, green and blue dots into an image point. In general, the picture is still not been screened, as it is located on the shadow mask.
Average = (3000 divided by (number of lines divided by 2.54 times the image height)) x 2 = 6000 divided by the dpi resolution
From this viewing distance will be synonymous with presentation of only one primary color, the other two points are not seen schwarzgeschalteten secure.
Ideal viewing distance = (3000 divided by (number of lines divided by 2.54 times the image height)) x 2.286 = 3000 divided by the dpi ResolutionX 2.286 From the ideal viewing distance higher Resolutionnicht more images are sharper. One difference between HDTV and PAL is not seen in a good Bildqualitiät secure. Some motifs trained observer can detect small differences. The ideal viewing distance results from the fact that seen on a PC monitor with 72dpi images are as sharp as images of higher resolution. This shows that it makes no sense to compare pixel numbers, if not contribute to the pixel to increase the sharpness of the image.
As one next to a grid distance of the greater its dpi is Resolutiongesehen. If the dpi seen Resolutionin reference to the relation of the viewing distance to picture height is set and with the maximum image resolution of 96dpi compared, it appears that PAL is the ideal viewing distance that is 5 times the amount of viewable screen TVs.
Limit = (3000 divided by (number of lines divided by 2.54 times the image height)) x 3 = 9000 divided by the dpi resolution From the ceiling of the eye, the dots can no longer differentiate. The upper limit is important if the picture depicted a lower Resolutionhat, indicating when the unit. The upper limit of the displayed image is the ideal viewing distance in the case. For only s.der upper limit of the displayed image is sure that blur generating additional pixels are not seen. In practice, states that saw a Picture with 30dpi Resolutionwird already s.1 meters sharp. In view s.PC monitor, it can be seen only s.3 yards really sharp too.
Also a tract on the upper limit is relevant, because here are three dots are connected to form a black or white dot. In the 75dpi setting of a PC monitor (Resolution1024 lines x 768 lines at a 17-inch monitor) works only s.1, 2 m distance are really sharp. Reducing the Resolutionunterhalb the lower limit, they are synonymous sharp display, since they lie above the lower grid size. At 60cm are 50dpi. S.PC typing or reading Wikipedia, it is therefore better to increase the Resolutionauf 640 lines decrease by 480 rows (46 dpi dpi with a 17-inch monitor) or to 150, but that does not support monitor. The dots are not recognized then, as the 46dpi which are displayed on a grid, the shadow mask.
From formulas arise mimimal aufgrundete values.
Resolutionin dpi = rows by image height x 2.54
Example: 640 x 480 pixels = 640 lines x 480 lines
Formula for calculating the image height
16:9 equipment to the following formula:
Image height = [((diagonal squared) divided by 337) from the root times] 9
For 4-3 units, the following formula:
Image height = [((diagonal squared) divided by 25) from the root times] 3
Screen Size in cm in inches times 2.54 = reference
Antwort von inwa:
aaa
Antwort von alpenmoench:
you seem to not understand what a basic ...
Antwort von inwa:
What? I guess you have not understood what fundamental.
Antwort von mdb:
[quote = "Inwa"] we do not [expected, "said Dieter Schicker, co-initiator of Inwa. [/ quote]
Inwa: Cinematographer lt profile. A co-initiator of Inwa must therefore be the father or the obstetrician or a gynecologist ...
Our studio (ARD Paris) will be rebuilt the way in half a year. Since only flat panel displays (or have a very large, at the same time everything) runs planned.
Of course, HDTV is not acceptable, as long as this copy is one seizure in the form to do so. But if I really large images (> (1m) in the living room so will have a constant viewing distance), I absolutely need a higher resolution, otherwise makes no sense. As one wants to persuade consumers to spend such sums for the corresponding monitor ...
Antwort von inwa:
[quote = "mdb"]
we do not [expected, "said Dieter Schicker, co-initiator of Inwa. [/ quote]
Inwa: Cinematographer lt profile. A co-initiator of Inwa must therefore be the father or the obstetrician or a gynecologist ...
The cameraman, who writes here for the Inwa, is with the nick "Steff" on the road. Inwa is the abbreviation of "initiative to safeguard the rights of users of digital systems and media"
http://not-hdtv-ready.pixelzauber.net/forum/portal.php
Our studio (ARD Paris) will be rebuilt the way in half a year. Since only flat panel displays (or have a very large, at the same time everything) runs planned. If PAL is on the small screen HDTV display, the quality is synonymous ok. The need for a good flat panel displays better picture quality than the tubes, and can save images as opposed to tubes is usually only in their original Resolutiongut show. The ARD has so far given any broadcasting for HDTV. The ORF is frühstens 2015 with HDTV on the air. Because of the problems described HDTV really only makes sense if the preferred channels are received continuously in HDTV, or it creates an alias on TV.
Of course, HDTV is not acceptable, as long as this copy is one seizure in the form to do so. Against the copy currently helping unfortunately no HDTV or HDTV ready television for sale. Also for DVB is a Kopüierschutz in planning, which will rely on vermutzlich HDCP.
But if I really large images (> (1m) in the living room so will have a constant viewing distance), I absolutely need a higher resolution, otherwise makes no sense. As one wants to persuade consumers to spend such sums for the corresponding monitor ... Of course, who below the 5-4 times the picture height is watching (see specified PAL ideal viewing distances), for the HDTV is really something.
Antwort von inwa:
Weiss anybody know if the color space of anamorphic PAL and PAL is the same?
Antwort von Markus:
Hello,
the color space of NTSC (SD) 4:3 and 16:9 is identical to my knowledge. Otherwise it would certainly not so easy to shoot with one 4:3-camcorder and an anamorphic and to read when capturing the images later than 16:9.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
This is probably one of the most comprehensive review of Slash Cam and enter has probably made him really hard.
He was very informative, unfortunately I could make a comment on point 4
4. The DVI interface, the HDMI interface, which often causes problems to be preferred,
As long as the HDCP copy protection is, more likely not there are still some models conjure up no picture via DVI, HDMI even with all of them.
The problem for Ottonormal Buy's still at an extra DVI cable for connecting to the sound and may well turn the rash to HDMI.
What is technologically illiterate (including the majority) has now combined with S-Video or Scart his equipment? (Stop the easiest way, but not always the best)
LG
January
Antwort von Markus:
If someone has accidentally taken a vollbeschaltetes scart cable, then the picture in RGB is transmitted, which in turn is of higher quality than Y / C. ;-)
Antwort von HDMI:
Copy and PAL blurred Am not against copy protection, is therefore not synonymous blurred with me! Sight distances for HDTV Hehe ... we just sat down just as it pleases us s.besten! Channel seem to manipulate the PAL quality for HDTV No matter how the birth pangs of this with is enriched early stage in the near future before we see only 98% of normal 4:3 or 16:9 PAL broadcasts. This, however, we see on the new panels, and good as good as ever. Even with the DVDs via HDMI, we see extremely detailed drawing as never before. Simply fantastic cinema experience in your living room, now, and although every night! Conclusion:
I'm glad that there may disappear after decades of stagnation, is now at least small quantum leap in television of old Europe. We benefit of the new panels in full native Resolutionauch our beautiful digital photos in full HDTV Resolutiongenießen able to.
Antwort von inwa:
Hello,
This is probably one of the most comprehensive review of Slash Cam and enter has probably made him really hard.
He was very informative, unfortunately I could make a comment on point 4
4. The DVI interface, the HDMI interface, which often causes problems to be preferred,
As long as the HDCP copy protection is, more likely not there are still some models conjure up no picture via DVI, HDMI even with all of them. DIV synonymous supports HDCP. The HDMI is not always ok, I have to "video" read ". My TV (SonyTrinitron) strangely composite shows better s.als RGB.
Copy and PAL blurred
Am not against copy protection, is therefore not synonymous blurred with me! The uncertainty has nothing to do with copy protection. The idea is that a lesser Picture Resolutionin a larger screen is displayed. This almost always goes wrong.
Sight distances for HDTV
Hehe ... we just sat down just as it pleases us s.besten! Most watch television of 2-3 meters. HDTV worth it because only really s.einer TV Size of 100cm diagonal upward.
Channel seem to manipulate the PAL quality for HDTV
No matter how the birth pangs of this with is enriched early stage in the near future before we see only 98% of normal 4:3 or 16:9 PAL broadcasts. This, however, we see on the new panels, and good as good as ever. Even with the DVDs via HDMI, we see extremely detailed drawing as never before. Simply fantastic cinema experience in your living room, now, and although every night! According to information of Christian Garrels, who is responsible for HDTV at Pro7/Sat1, the sender against the copy protection and HDTV broadcasts first HDTV without HDCP. However, the transmitter can be forced in future to send with HDCP, if this contract will be drawn into the Lizensvereinbarungen. The commitment of Pro7/Sat1 in terms of HDTV will be considered after the World Cup.
Garrels: "There must not delude ourselves synonymous, PAL is usually terrible on HDTV television sets. The transmitter, however, expects its PAL program which is broadcast on the HDTV channel, even high, thereby causing the quality of PAL to HDTV televisions Pro7/Sat1 be better than the PAL quality of other channels on the HDTV display. In the normal PAL program will continue to feature films in reduced Resolutiongesendet letterbox, so that a Comparison to HDTV is not meaningful.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
It was only when Mag Audio - Video Stillimage-Picture (Dem, I do not necessarily trust, but the best selling in Germany and Stillimage Videomag's with distance)
When multiple devices, the Fersehbild remained black in connection with a DVI cable.
LG
January
Antwort von inwa:
Conclusion:
I'm glad that there may disappear after decades of stagnation, is now at least small quantum leap in television of old Europe. We benefit of the new panels in full native Resolutionauch our beautiful digital photos in full HDTV Resolutiongenießen able to. Your digital photos can you s.PC full Resolutiongenießen. Sharper than 72dpi is s.meinem PC (96dpi resolution does not), I tested as I do.
Antwort von WeiZen:
Most watch television of 2-3 meters. HDTV worth it because only really s.einer TV Size of 100cm diagonal upward. Moin,
I am compelled to respeak yet. JVC 32 inch picture tube, brilliant, synonymous of 50 cm, more times does the dot pitch gradually.
I now add SD DV AVI files into a HDV project is a bubble, so that on HDV and look at me through the component input s.JVC, that is no different from SD. A good scale makes it a lot already possible. Is it so easy to compare, once the Project setting aud SD and even on HDV. Via Komponennteneingang the JVC yes frist some format.
Antwort von inwa:
Most watch television of 2-3 meters. HDTV worth it because only really s.einer TV Size of 100cm diagonal upward.
Moin,
I am compelled to respeak yet. JVC 32 inch picture tube, brilliant, synonymous of 50 cm, more times does the dot pitch gradually. If you have a 32 inch 16:9 SDTV tv, you'd have about 2 meters viewing distance have almost HDTV quality. However, many larger tubes have the problem that the pixels are quite small in the grid, so that it can be partly seen from a distance or a grid. With a 4:3 device with 32 inches diagonal you had to have approximately 2.40 meters in HDTV quality. When the 5-6 times the picture height is watching can see only a very small difference explains synonymous Reinhard Otter, Managing Editor of the magazine "video". The magazine has objectively compared usauf a booth at the IFA HDTV with PAL. By my calculations, it is the 5-4 times the Bilhöhe.
I now add SD DV AVI files into a HDV project is a bubble, so that on HDV and look at me through the component input s.JVC, that is no different from SD. A good scale makes it a lot already possible. Is it so easy to compare, once the Project setting aud SD and even on HDV. Via Komponennteneingang the JVC yes frist some format. On a SD Television, of course, you will see no difference when you inflate synonymous SD to HD because the TV: yes runterskaliert back to SD.
It should be synonymous, that hardly any channels in DVD quality on the go is. Since the data rates and the horizontal PAL will Resolutionruntergefahren. Part of 720 lines to 440 Thus there are no pixels deserts, Blur are placed over the picture, which of course, evident from care for blur. This quality packaging tubes is usually quite good. LCDs no longer. Horrible include Tele5, MTV and "The Fourth", and some Premiere channels. Even with Viva and N24 are marked at fast Lichtwechseln appear pixilated in the surfaces to be seen. The quality I'll find my Röher bad on TV. What kind of first for an HD-ready device? Well cruel!
And I wonder why the quality is horrible digital synonymous fed into the analog cable network. Wenigestens similar quality might be in order, since no data rates need to be saved.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Hello,
It was only when Mag Audio - Video Stillimage-Picture (Dem, I do not necessarily trust, but the best selling in Germany and Stillimage Videomag's with distance)
LG
January Is it just because they attach more favorable one movie DVD. Otherwise, I find this magazine more than poor. A superficial grocery ...
Greeting
Andy
Antwort von inwa:
Hello,
It was only when Mag Audio - Video Stillimage-Picture (Dem, I do not necessarily trust, but the best selling in Germany and Stillimage Videomag's with distance)
When multiple devices, the Fersehbild remained black in connection with a DVI cable.
LG
January As already written. "Video" has done just the opposite experience. Viewed funtioniert HDMI good day again s.nächsten not.
Antwort von inwa:
Viewed synonymous what positive about HDTV of the page:
http://sprec000.xardas.lima-city.de/Proki.html
"The reason why is synonymous to configure a home theater PC's worth the enormous richness of detail of the HDTV images in Comparison to a standard PAL signal. Particularly in larger screen width of well over two meters, as in this case, the difference enormously to the DVD. "
A screen size of about 2m width corresponds to an image height of about 1.12 meters, or a diagonal of 2.29 m. These are dimensions that are worth HDTV secure. The best resolution projectors with 1080s. The current cost but still around the 35,000 euros.
Further down the table:
Tube-TV (82cm 16:9) - Optimal image quality: DVD "
Nothing else I write here synonymous. From 100cm diagonal HDTV captures s.sich really worthwhile, since the viewing distance is 2-3 meters.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Well, to be worth your standards and stop just for you ...
There are currently "worth" my 37 "HD TV is perfect for digital images show in 1920x1080 of media cards or USB devices to the HDMI DVD player (still never seen such a wealth of detail of a normal DVD) and just the 16 : 9 Picture of good DVB-S channels. Even the 4:3 broadcasts of DVB-S are better than on my old 100Hz 73cm Pana-cathode-ray tube and let them enjoy themselves without spending more synonymous with 14:9, though synonymous up there or down a bit is cut off. As can I connect my USB external disk s.das Panel and import pictures / videos can via YUV and network music player with USB disk was even HDV, WMVHD, etc. import there.
I've never had a television so many great opportunities and very good quality. Synonymous bothers me no copy protection, because I have no intention or compulsion to circumvent this.
Distance from the panel? Well the best we can in our living room suitable zooming ", if necessary, on rails ...
As Sichabstand is provided by the panel of Manufacturer:
SD -> 2.8 to 4.7 m
HD -> 1.9 to 4.7 m
We have taken place at 3.2-3.5 meters out and have a lot of joy s.dem new
high densidy Television ...
Antwort von Martin:
If you have a 32 inch 16:9 SDTV tv, you'd have about 2 meters viewing distance have almost HDTV quality. My Television is indeed 80cm / 4:3, but of "HDTV-quality" is miles away. Maybe they are given "standard distance", in which a spectator Kindly see no difference to have standardized to 5 diopters and 30% visual acuity. But I maintain to be able to reliably detect from 2 meters distance the difference between a good HD display and a good SD screen.
Significant for the viewing distance for me so far was not really the resolution, but the overall impression and perspective. To this end, a distance of 2 to 3 times screen size seems to be reasonable.
It should be synonymous, that hardly any channels in DVD quality on the go is. Since the data rates and the horizontal PAL will Resolutionruntergefahren. Part of 720 lines to 440 Thus there are no pixels deserts, Blur are placed over the picture, which of course, evident from care for blur. My knowledge was far different: The rent for her television program a channel, and the price is of course a function of bandwidth. Accordingly, the material is then encoded in MPEG2. That decreases at a lower bit rate, the quality, it should be clear - in particular, the picture looks rather blurred and then less destructive.
Obviously, I was so beside it, one learns to hold a day ;-)
This quality packaging tubes is usually quite good. LCDs no longer. Horrible include Tele5, MTV and "The Fourth", and some Premiere channels. Even with Viva and N24 are marked at fast Lichtwechseln appear pixilated in the surfaces to be seen. The quality I'll find my Röher bad on TV. What kind of first for an HD-ready device? Well cruel! This sounds exactly to artifacts from the encoding. This then has nothing to do with tube or LCD, but with the broadcast material. Or perhaps the recipient anything - ever seen a high-quality digital satellite receiver is good try?
A good "HD Ready" device should be able to extrapolate the Picture decency and represent at least the same quality as a CRT monitor. In fact, there are important differences in quality at this scale - there are indeed synonymous price differences between devices of different brands.
And I wonder why the quality is horrible digital synonymous fed into the analog cable network. Wenigestens similar quality might be in order, since no data rates need to be saved. For me (KabelBW) is the analogous quality in order, at least in terms Resolutionund colors. Therefore, the picture is on some channels powerfully noisy, annoying me even more than what too low resolution.
The quality difference can be seen at football transfers directly Comparison eg ARD ARD analog and digital: The effect of the analog signal swing on the pitch, of course, the digital program is the grass green during the pans to mud, then after the swing back to reveal about every blade of grass .
My Conclusion: I'm going to soon be a 37 "TFT Television with 1920x1080 resolution buy. Obviously, it is important to have a reasonable next synonymous, high-quality decoder for the TV program.
Greeting
Martin
Antwort von Martin:
It was only when Mag Audio - Video Stillimage-Picture (Dem, I do not necessarily trust, but the best selling in Germany and Stillimage Videomag's with distance)
Is it just because they attach more favorable one movie DVD. Otherwise, I find this magazine more than poor. A superficial grocery ... Yep. For me, the best thing a movie DVD's with an attached paper. But this is certainly a successful marketing ploy, because they can call themselves by a "leader".
Greeting
Martin
Antwort von Martin:
There are currently "worth" my 37 "HD TV is perfect for digital images show in 1920x1080 of media cards or USB devices to the HDMI DVD player (still never seen such a wealth of detail of a normal DVD) and just the 16 : 9 Picture of good DVB-S channels. Hello Bruno,
maybe you can tell which devices are which? It is then easier to march to the dealer to carry out the direct and Comparison ...
Greeting
Martin
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Martin,
from my experience I can only tell you that you can not objectively compare the market. The panel will be delivered in a setting for fluorescent lighting in the video market (in my manual is pointed) explicitly, can you then give only a rough guide. What you have really bought, you will experience only a few days at home when you through the settings and their effects under controlled conditions (test disc, sh.'re My other post here in the Forum of today!) By.
Of the 14-day return policy, we have not taken up, because we will make the device much fun.
I have the following equipment before re angechafft:
- Philips 37PF9830/10 with Ambi-Light
- Denon DVD-1920 (HDMI) player
In planning:
- Philips HDTV Receiver DSR9005 expected (only available in March)
- Short-term Philips DVD recorder with hard drive with HDMI DVDR7300H (purchase!)
The HD TV panel after the car was first turned on at home in the basic installation of the settings to set the device to the then existing environment. It is synonymous to best present a sensor dynamically changing environment s.das day / night / adjust artificial light with the Picture and Ambi-Light. Without Ambi-Light I do not want television. The face colors are very natural, the picture is clear and sharp, the colors and great football broadcasts are completely synonymous OK, 16:9 documentaries such as "Oman" in 3Sat other day, are simply top. The panel has become the new reference device in audiovision 12/05. Scaled and deinterlaced video signals outside of jellyfish (of my HDMI player for example) are smart accepted, it is therefore not re-encoded by the panel. Philips has built into this device a SHARP panel that can be read out from the service menu. Philps is synonymous improved out patches for the system software that you can heraunterladen of the HP and with a media card it can capture. It all goes smoothly. In the service menu are synonymous counting the hours of operation and indicated other things that you better not touch it!
Of course I see here and there small artifacts from the vicinity of the panel, primarily under the current DVB-S input. At a distance of 3.2 to 3.5 meters, as in our records, but this is the general impression is no longer relevant.
The HDMI input of the DVD player shows as "The Mummy comes back" in the crowd scenes s.Anfang with the warriors in the wilderness Learn more clearly and distinctly to which I have never seen before. Must have a look now, all existing DVDs all again, because it now makes a lot of fun, almost cinema fun!
At the moment, I dine, the panel with two DVB-S satellite receivers (one of them has a hard drive, the other depends on older VHS recorder). Normal 4:3 broadcasts look at me, I always sumed in 14:9. It is cut slightly above and below, which does not interfere, unless font is displayed below.
Between the two existing satellite receivers is a noticeable difference in image quality according to the purchase money. The weakness of the image quality of the VHS recorder is clearly noticeable. The existing HDD satellite receiver via RGB provides a very nice picture s.das panel, I will use this later than next Zweitanschluß in any case.
An HDV camcorder do I need at the moment, because I get a first-class 16:9 Picture of my own DVDs using the HDMI Player of Denon. Perhaps HDV later times an issue for me.
In a high-resolution slide show I was sharp, so in 1920 x 1080 These shows, I imagine, together with a script (which is part of the Philips panels) with background music and play them via the USB port of the USB hard drive into the panel with no overscan.
I prepare the images with IrfanView respect to 16:9 and choice of detail, and I s.sofort only with a 16:9 screen digital Taking pictures and then quickly with IrfanView Stappelbetrieb in the images generated in 1920 x 1080 out of it. Of course it is synonymous possible so prepared HD images on a media card to store and eat of the media card from the pictures in the panel (slots to be enough there).
I've seen at a friend's
Antwort von inwa:
Distance from the panel? Well the best we can in our living room suitable zooming ", if necessary, on rails ...
As Sichabstand is provided by the panel of Manufacturer:
SD -> 2.8 to 4.7 m
HD -> 1.9 to 4.7 m
We have taken place at 3.2-3.5 meters out and have a lot of joy s.dem new high densidy Television ... At 90cm diagonal you can on a PAL Television from 2.20 m in nearly HD quality on an HDTV and PAL zuschaun device according to my calculations from 2,91 m distance. HDTV in a 1080s Resolutiongut you can already see from 1.10 meters and in the 720s Resolutionbereits of 1.76 meters. Thus coincides roughly with the even the manufacturer's recommendations, the poorer the quality of the included PAL TVs.
If only PAL with 440 lines of horizontal resolution danger is you'd have to have but a rather gruesome picture. I have a non-optimal PAL Recording viewed on a high definition 21 Inch Monitor and the Picture Tubes was quite ok. On a high-definition 21 Inch LCD PC monitor but it was clearly bad.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
I still have a very good overall picture with DVB-S.
Antwort von inwa:
Martin,
from my experience I can only tell you that you can not objectively compare the market. The panel will be delivered in a setting for fluorescent lighting in the video market (in my owner's manual) is explicitly pointed out This is partly done so that the customer has the impression "as if through a pane of glass."
Antwort von inwa:
I still have a very good overall picture with DVB-S. On a PAL TV with 540 lines, it Resolutionwäre probably much better. Besides, you seem to have caught one of the rare good HD-ready TVs. In the review, which I have in my head, only two HD-ready equipment to get the grade "good". Conclusion of the testers: anyone of HD-ready TVs for better TV quality is erhoifft entäuscht as good as ever.
3.20 feet away from you, but one with 540 lines PAL TV is certainly HDTV quality, differentiate the ceiling s.der the eye of the pixels is no longer at about 2.90 meters. Since HDTV can not be sharper than PAL.
Antwort von Nightfly!:
Conclusion:
I'm glad that there may disappear after decades of stagnation, is now at least small quantum leap in television of old Europe. We benefit of the new panels in full native Resolutionauch our beautiful digital photos in full HDTV Resolutiongenießen able to. I agree! And without early adopters who buy the latest synonymous when it first is not necessarily better than the old. If progress remains quite on the track.
(The Intel Pentium 4 is in its infancy synonymous off worse in contrast to the Pentium 3, anyone who still wants to buy a P3?)
With new technologies open up new possibilities but usually only if the step is made and if you do not chew everything in theory. Do not use the chance and do not support promising ways to be very conservative.
But fortunately, there still gibts such as HDMI, inspired innovations, the sluggish and hence to better quality.
Greeting
Nightfly
Antwort von Stefan:
Hello,
This is probably one of the most comprehensive review of Slash Cam and enter has probably made him really hard.
...
Unfortunately you can not judge correctly, who introduced him why. To me it sounds like between the lines, almost like a disappointed buyer of an HDTV device with a last resort "boycott". For more seriousness, I miss the name, imprint, or a clear mission statement with http://not-hdtv-ready.pixelzauber.net/forum/portal.php
Good luck
The fat Stefan
Antwort von inwa:
Conclusion:
I'm glad that there may disappear after decades of stagnation, is now at least small quantum leap in television of old Europe. We benefit of the new panels in full native Resolutionauch our beautiful digital photos in full HDTV Resolutiongenießen able to.
I agree! And without early adopters who buy the latest synonymous when it first is not necessarily better than the old. Personally, I find HDTV just for ambitious projects like the one presented in the movies very interesting. So cheap you could never realize it yet. What bothers me on the merits of copy protection, and the usual poor quality of PAL.
But we must not forget one thing. The increase in PAL Resolutionvon to most HD ready devices that are designed for the 720 Resolutionkonzipiet, is 144 lines. This is precisely the difference between PAL and PAL anamorphic letterbox. And the increase of PAL to PAL letterbox anamorphic lens brings even more than the increase of PAL anamorephot to HDTV 720th
Antwort von inwa:
Hello,
This is probably one of the most comprehensive review of Slash Cam and enter has probably made him really hard.
...
Unfortunately you can not judge correctly, who introduced him why. To me it sounds like between the lines, almost like a disappointed buyer of an HDTV device with a last resort "boycott". For more seriousness, I miss the name, imprint, or a clear mission statement with http://not-hdtv-ready.pixelzauber.net/forum/portal.php
Good luck
The fat Stefan As a private homepage you do not need Imperssum. But is provided. There stands synonymous, that the forum is still ne site. Contact email is indicated. Nor should it pay more attention to the content than on form. Nicely packaged as advertising I would prefer synonymous. We do all this voluntarily, but without financial support, speak of our private coal. Donations are welcome and especially looking for a layout for forum.
The firm of Harald Schmidt has thanked us for the press information with regard to the forum. That's never happened to me that someone thanks me for a press info.
Antwort von inwa:
Every HDTV I would recommend to friends as a result of the disadvantages of descriptive representation on PAL HD ready displays, the standard PAL TV to keep and to enjoy HDTV by beamer.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Again, I see only advantages synonymous with PAL TV, every day in practice!
A beamer is not suitable for the living room TV!
Antwort von Stefan:
1 / Just for the press seems to me the details Rückverfolgenkönnen a message and the direct availability of a responsible person, the A and O to be. With advertising and packaging, etc. This has nothing to do. That is an entirely different corner.
2 / You know that your initiative can be through the corporate tax revenue of donations? It would be worth considering whether you want to start one of them freed organization (non-profit organization in the sense of consumer protection, etc.)
(3 / But through the oral or the recruiting!) Of donations, it would probably take no more private home, but suddenly a website with a purpose (among others) donations. Similar case - banner ads.
Today, a page is quickly very quickly by warnings of shyster killed and, if not to a a page fit into the Weihnachtskaufrauschkram.
Good luck
The fat Stefan
Antwort von Martin:
But we must not forget one thing. The increase in PAL Resolutionvon to most HD ready devices that are designed for the 720 Resolutionkonzipiet, is 144 lines. This is precisely the difference between PAL and PAL anamorphic letterbox. And the increase of PAL to PAL letterbox anamorphic lens brings even more than the increase of PAL anamorephot to HDTV 720th Sorry, but this is nonsense. But we reckon time by:
PAL Resolutionist 768 x 576 pixels. This is either 4:3 or 16:9 anamorphic (swaged pixels). According to Adam Riese are 442,368 pixels. This is the reference.
PAL brings in 16:9 letterbox black bars above and below, while the "real" Resolutiondann is still 768 * 432 pixels, the rest is black. Then there are 331,776 pixels. In relation to it, therefore bringing 16:9 anamorphic PAL 442368/331776 = 1.33 times as many pixels.
720i or 720p have a Resolutionvon 1280 * 720 pixels, that is 921,600 pixels. This is 2.08 times as much as PAL anamorphic and 2.78 times as much as PAL letterbox.
Unfortunately, the additional posts of "Inwa" with similar, completely unsubstantiated, claims peppered, I can not share and for the most part are simply wrong.
Greeting
Martin
Antwort von Martin:
As a private homepage you do not need Imperssum. A site that carries a headline "initiative to safeguard the rights of users of digital systems and media," I, as a casual user would now not be immediately classified as 'personal'. On the contrary, would in fact my first action nachzuschauen who is behind the "initiative".
Greeting
Martin
Antwort von Jan:
Martin,
from my experience I can only tell you that you can not objectively compare the market. The panel will be delivered in a setting for fluorescent lighting in the video market This is synonymous s.dem poor signal at Media Saturn and markets.
There are masses of connected devices, the signal in the market is simply first class. The markets are synonymous sealed off too well.
I would be the signal in the business at home, compared with the true. My TV (Saturn) bleats of man's early morning till evening on its reception quality.
LG
January
Antwort von Markus:
PAL Resolutionist 768 x 576 pixels ... The special feature of digital video images is that they usually have rectangular pixels. For example, a SD-Picture (PAL delivers) a Resolutionvon 720 × 576 pixels. The aspect ratio (4:3 or 16:9) arises solely from the pixel aspect ratio.
The one represented in the consumer area specification with square pixels is HDV1 (720p) with 1280 × 720 pixels. This Resolutionergibt directly to a 16:9 widescreen pixel aspect ratio without any correction would be necessary.
More Info:
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Pixel Aspect Ratio vs. video. Computer "
4:3 or 5:4 This is synonymous s.dem poor signal at Media Saturn and markets.
There are masses of connected devices, the signal in the market is simply first class. The markets are synonymous sealed off too well.
I would be the signal in the business at home, compared with the true. My TV (Saturn) bleats of man's early morning till evening on its reception quality. It is a huge difference if I see s.meinem a third-rate high-definition flat-screen TVs TV (MPEG compression artifacts!) Or a class or a separate video capture (Purchase) DVD. ;-)
Antwort von inwa:
Every HDTV I would recommend to friends as a result of the disadvantages of descriptive representation on PAL HD ready displays, the standard PAL TV to keep and to enjoy HDTV by beamer. The PAL Qualitätauf HD ready is sometimes much worse, as anyone can test in Mediemarkt nights. Just a few times PAL transmitter on and compare with the picture on a PAL TV.
Another explanation:
2-3 feet is the normal viewing distance. Therefore worth only s.100cm diagonal HDTV really. In other words, with a 1080s TV, you can halve or double the distance to the Television Television size. This is the inverse proportionality. But who wants such a huge TV?
PAL 5 times the picture height (ideal)
HDTV 720: 4 times the picture height and distance (ideal)
HDTV 1080 to 1080s displays: 2.5 times the picture height (ideal)
For these intervals, the sharpness is almost certainly the same. Because: inverse proportionality: HDTV 1080 has twice the dpi Resolutionvon PAL and the double distance (5-fold instead of 2.5 times), the picture has almost twice the resolution, because the visual acuity, or that what the eye can detect synonymous inversely proportional to viewing distance decreases.
In general, the man is not synonymous as sharp fever eat. Anyone can test this. Simply times the monitor resolution is a step down to go. The pictures do not look blurred. In a direct Comparison of the difference would be to see them.
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PS:
If you find a misspelling, you darft keep him happy ...
Antwort von inwa:
PAL Resolutionist 768 x 576 pixels ...
The special feature of digital video images is that they usually have rectangular pixels. For example, a SD-Picture (PAL delivers) a Resolutionvon 720 × 576 pixels. The aspect ratio (4:3 or 16:9) arises solely from the pixel aspect ratio.
The one represented in the consumer area specification with square pixels is HDV1 (720p) with 1280 × 720 pixels. This Resolutionergibt directly to a 16:9 widescreen pixel aspect ratio without any correction would be necessary.
More Info:
" Pixel Aspect Ratio vs. video. Computer
" 4:3 or 5:4
This is synonymous s.dem poor signal at Media Saturn and markets.
There are masses of connected devices, the signal in the market is simply first class. The markets are synonymous sealed off too well.
I would be the signal in the business at home, compared with the true. My TV (Saturn) bleats of man's early morning till evening on its reception quality.
It is a huge difference if I see s.meinem a third-rate high-definition flat-screen TVs TV (MPEG compression artifacts!) Or a class or a separate video capture (Purchase) DVD. ;-) The sender often unscrew the data rates and the vertical circular Resolutionvon 720 lines up to 440 lines. PAL anamorphic lens with 720 lines is compressed by 25%. This is hardly noticeable because the eye resolves less horizontally than vertically. The WMF format, HDV and HD are working with a compression of 25% and as I read some broadcast HDTV is synonymous shrunk by 25%. I'm not 100% sure if this is true, but I can well imagine, since the sender s.Datenraten save where they can.
Antwort von inwa:
The HDTV Inwa emphielt keep all your friends because of the disadvantages of descriptive representation on PAL HD ready displays the normal PAL TV, and to enjoy HDTV by beamer too. It is anyway not always cultivate much nicer to each item in the TV running in to see HDTV quality, but the Filmeschaun as an event.
Another explanation:
2-3 feet is the normal viewing distance. Therefore worth only s.100cm diagonal HDTV really. In other words, with a 1080s TV, you can halve or double the distance to the Television Television size. This is the inverse proportionality. But who wants such a huge TV?
480 lines on PAL TVs: 6 times the picture height (ideal)
PAL to PAL 540 ZeilenTVs: 5 times the picture height (ideal)
HDTV 720: 4 times the picture height and distance (ideal)
HDTV 1080 to 1080s displays: 2.5 times the picture height (ideal)
For these intervals, the sharpness is almost certainly the same. Because: inverse proportionality: HDTV 1080 has twice the dpi Resolutionvon PAL and the double distance (5-fold instead of 2.5 times), the picture has almost twice the resolution, because the visual acuity, or that what the eye can detect synonymous inversely proportional to viewing distance decreases.
In general, the man is not synonymous as sharp fever eat. Anyone can test this. Simply times the monitor resolution is a step down to go. The pictures do not look blurred.
The PAL TV looks bad on HDTV is synonymous almost daily in the news or on CNN to see if NTSC to PAL is inflated. Many television have a magnifying glass or zoom function. Here again, the picture is "blown up" and usually has significantly blurred.
Antwort von wolfgang:
I have the following equipment before re angechafft:
- Philips 37PF9830/10 with Ambi-Light
Today I was with my JVC PD1 test times at distributors - most devices with a smaller HD Resolutionals had enormous problems of panning judder represent one brought test film (the film was as m2t on tape, and has been via the component output of PD1 in the test equipment recorded).
This one of Bruno called Philips with full HD Resolutionhatte thus absolutely no problems - the pans were buttery and smoothly.
Browse, test your device with your HDV camcorder via component cables. Brings critical footage - lowlight close-ups, pans - into the business, and take a look at Meher devices with you, one known test material.
Everything else is a gamble ...
More details here - synonymous with donwload capabilities of the test material) (as wmv:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?boardid=46&threadid=1744&page=1 # 1
Antwort von wrunge:
Testers at the magazine warned "consumer": "Many customers will probably be rather disappointed."
The testers: "Those who expect of an HD-ready LCD screen or plasma TV to improve the traditional image quality is as good as always, disappointed." It lies mainly in mind that most devices with the still prevailing Picture Transfer Mode PAL can not cope, the picture is very often a rather dull and somewhat blurred. Her strengths play out in the current device only as good as HDTV Picture not yet available transmission technology. Paul Srna, "consumer" technology expert: "Only when the TV station did not broadcast a digital, currently mainly via satellite, but synonymous HDTV, is worth the purchase of such receivers are expensive."
"Digital must be made according to EU regulation in 2010 the entire territorial entity receiving the switch to HDTV will take longer. Good possible that previously purchased now, expensive flat screens are broken again." OÖNachrichten
http://www.nachrichten.at/leben/394874?PHPSESSID=eadfb27b2ddf5605cafbe78283de159e
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
It lies mainly in mind that most devices with the still prevailing Picture Transfer Mode PAL can not cope, the picture is very often a rather dull and somewhat blurred. That may be so in many cases, but not always.
No panic, so ...
How wonderful that there are now finally more and better HD TVs with which one can make much more than the whole of the last 60 years!
You may decide for themselves what it starts with it ...
Antwort von wrunge:
Three good reasons to buy any HD-ready TV Abstract
1. The HD ready logo HDCP digital is introduced. Also recorded in PAL quality can be prevented.
2. The PAL quality of most HD ready Television is bad because of the higher PAL must be Resolutionhochgerechnet. Instead of 4-fold from the 5-PAL should be on HD Ready display from a viewing distance of 7-6 times the picture height are seen. 99.9% of the program, but the quality of today's television standards PAL and it is not clear when the changes.
3. Who is watching out of the five times the picture height will be recognized on a PAL TV with 540 lines Resolutionmeist only a very small difference between PAL and HDTV. On 480 TV lines, it is 6 fold the Height. HDTV is worth a viewing distance 2-3 meters only really when is the visible screen diagonal of at least 100 cm.
Device with the copy protection HDCP (HD ready, HD compatible, HD ready, etc.) should generally not be bought, as synonymous is scheduled for the normal Digitalfernsehn a copy, which will presumably zurückgreifgen to HDCP. As long as there are hardly any HDTV program is the purchase of HD-ready television already discouraged.
Detailed information synonymous with other issues can be found at:
www.not HD ready.de
Antwort von wolfgang:
Well I think that is an extremely one-sided approach. Such protests gabs synonymous with the Introduction of the steam engine, and each new technology.
Is nevertheless a well-known game that stop the industry s.liebsten private copying and the TV will stop recording. It is they have not succeeded. But I'll give you all right, that we must pay attention to something.
However: Here gehts more likely around the DV editing, and to selbstgefilmtes material. Since you will probably have this issue less.
Who sees between high-quality HD (V) and SD material is no difference on a good display unit, time should go to the ophthalmologist. I apologize for the cynicism of the same, but you can not act as if there was no visible difference.
Antwort von Chris2:
In addition, HDTV feature film production costs not a cent more, because their films are already being cut s.PC in a Resolutionvon 4k (3112 lines). I have hardly known German film productions, which have been post-produced in 4K. 2K, yes, but with 4K you have something you lean far out of the window ...
Antwort von Valentino:
Hi
I must give Chris2 right 4K is in post production very expensive because it comes into being four times the information in Comparison to 2K. So one synonymous requires four times the memory and processing power. Apart from that, there is no scanner or NLEs, the 4K master in real time.
Actually, the beautiful old cutting table is still the best system, because here is getting the full resolution.
Greeting
Tino
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
2. The PAL quality of most HD ready Television is bad because of the higher PAL must be Resolutionhochgerechnet. Is long gone, with me it is better than the old tube!
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
I do not know what Inwa looks so what device he calls his own. If any can give advantages or disadvantages of 576i, 576p 720p, or 1080i compared, then please on a device that these Foramte all again perfect. They are currently only CRT's, right? Were the above-mentioned subjects, different observations made on such devices, etc.? I doubt it. Is not left in the whole discussion of the inadequacy of the current device ignores see wolfgangs panel next search top, 60 Hz for 50 Hz equipment market, etc. And yet implemented draw conclusions about size? I believe so. It is here compared with pears, apples, etc., as already in HC1 jerky Threats
I have a
table of characters If this can Inwa read on their devices?
Antwort von wrunge:
However: Here gehts more likely around the DV editing, and to selbstgefilmtes material. Since you will probably have this issue less. And you are you sure That you can see your Selbstgedrehtes Mateial HD on an HDTV screen with copy protection? And do not say at once: how, nee without copy protection, which does not show me.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Yes, you can see everything!
Antwort von Stephan Kexel:
And you are you sure That you can see your Selbstgedrehtes Mateial HD on an HDTV screen with copy protection? And do not say at once: how, nee without copy protection, which does not show me. A vision system has nothing to do with copy protection!
The copy protection is administered one of Receiver or player!
Antwort von inwa:
Again, I see only advantages synonymous with PAL TV, every day in practice!
Today, I have compared in a store. HD Ready Television with 768 lines Resolutionbei playback of the 1080s Resolutionmit TVs with 480 lines of resolution. The result?
1. The PAL quality of HD-ready Television is not as bad as it was presented to the media days in Munich. In Direk Comparison of the TVs with DVD Resolutionbei were lower quality but much better.
2. At a viewing distance of approximately 3.20 meters could be seen virtually no difference between the HD-ready device with 107 cm screen diagonal and equal to the 480-line unit. The viewing distance from the (near DVD quality) can be seen to be so little difference is about 10% above 5 times the image height of a PAL TVs with 540 lines resolution.
Antwort von WeiZen:
In Direk Comparison of the TVs with DVD Resolutionbei were lower quality but much better. Moin,
Caution, this can not be generalized. That simply is s.Gerät. If the instrument has exellent scales (and deinterlace) looks like SD PAL (DVD Video, DV AVI) at full 1920x1080 HD Resolutionvon no worse than for a device with only PAL SD resolution. Just finding them is the crux. Or you can take, like Bruno, a DVD player, which, scaled up if I have understood it to 1920x1080. Then this device does the work and not the display. Then the choice becomes easier.
Again, a case is, as Brun's TV has a Resolutionvon 1920x1080. However, if the display, then again Resolutionhat less than 1920x1080, it must re-scale them yourself. Because it means try it. Not just the whole thing.
Antwort von prem:
In Direk Comparison of the TVs with DVD Resolutionbei were lower quality but much better.
Moin,
Caution, this can not be generalized. That simply is s.Gerät. If the instrument has exellent scales (and deinterlace) looks like SD PAL (DVD Video, DV AVI) at full 1920x1080 HD Resolutionvon no worse than for a device with only PAL SD resolution. Just finding them is the crux. Or you can take, like Bruno, a DVD player, which, scaled up if I have understood it to 1920x1080. Then this device does the work and not the display. In the SD material times acted are images through the channel, so in best possible quality, have been scaled up.
Antwort von dffd:
gfgf
Antwort von synthflut:
Understand the purpose of the contribution is not at all ...
PAL and HDTV look very good on my HDTV.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Understand the purpose of the contribution is not at all ...
PAL and HDTV look very good on my HDTV. Meaning and purpose of this posting will have been to sell his Page. No more and no less. The fact has happened since 28/3/2006 for sale. Oh yes .... The DVDs must be made synonymous nor s.den man. Yawn ...
Antwort von prem:
fff
Antwort von Quadruplex:
... Delete the original post very quickly and the clerk, under the zumüllt always the same subject, the forums of the world (at Heise he is a Dauernerver) make it clear that he stinks?
Thank you.
Antwort von steveb:
It may be that some forum users can do something with your name and be glad that you're here now ...
So unfortunately I can not do much synonymous, and still welcome you to remind you to post things in the area of commercial activity "used" to ... otherwise, the mail is the answer you'll get here, not really contribute to above-mentioned topic.
But we should give everyone a chance to be able to participate constructively.
gruss
Stefan
Antwort von Gast1:
The title of this thread is a synonym. Why not, "warning against the big bad wolf ..."
Before HD-Ready in the forums before the purchase of "non-HD Ready" devices has been warned. Then HD-ready inter alia at the request of consumer groups has been introduced. Now here warned against buying them.
Arguments are ...
HD ... there would be likely to occur only when the now purchased HD Readys were probably worn out. Nonsense, finally, we use the television (so recently, "panel called"? See) more and more synonymous to something other than the Programs of the channels. High-resolution cameras and camcorders, game consoles, and media, including Blu-Ray/HD-DVD players have been around or there will be later this year. Even a TV service already exists and it will become more and more.
... Standard Pal was on HD-Readys generally no better or no worse than on the tube. That is subjective. Come again device (there are a lot worse synonymous CRT) and the viewer. Because you can not argue that the one like the mother, the other the daughter. However, I read the forums often dissatisfied HD-Ready-Besitzer/Seher threads, and of it alone there are now probably in D a few million.
S.The Warner and now my question: What should I buy a HD-Ready wenns be?
Antwort von Zu meinem 1. Post u AWs:
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Antwort von glooble:
My statement to the picture quality:
HDTV has a higher pixel count and a higher bit rate and is definitely better than the current PAL. But not like the PAL of 3-5 years ago, for example, because:
The current PAL Digital Picture of the Premiere pay-TV broadcast (What is meant is not the analogue of distribution) is deliberately broadcast with a lower bit rate than a few years ago was the case.
HDTV is a much better picture quality than the current PAL TV, therefore, at the Premiere pay-TV for several months, low bit rate (Source, Dr. Frank Hoffmann, Project HDTV on Premiere - Booth IFA 2005, 31.08.2005).
With the edge has the (I think) NOTHING) to do. Although the sender as perhaps the possibility of what could actually turn. With all the special effects in the shooting, there is.
At that time they wanted to popularize digital TV and presented the premiere channels in DVD quality. DVDs have meant (in my opinion) the HDTV-quality (the default is "720p")
Antwort von superloony:
In the first post I wrote in the title:
"Subject: Re: NO warning of HD ready - HDTV: PAL picture quality of ..."
So NO warning means that I want to distance of the statements of the "annoying" Users!
