Frage von Sess:
Howdy ho.
I have an avi from Premiere, unkompremiert exported.
720x576
25 frames
Interlaced, bottom first (just for standard home camcorder).
That I walked around in TMPGEnc: (MPEG2)
720x576
25 frames
Progressive
Variante1: 6000'er Bitrate
Variante2: 8000'er Bitrate
Variante3: 8000'er Bitrate
Progressive because it is on the computer and TV to be played.
And I think this may very well "convert"?
Each case everything works great with variant 1.
Calculator and play it as unnecessary.
Variant 2 +3 ONLY run on the calculator unnecessary.
On the TV is no longer displayed and written as it is synonymous to Bildstockstraße and zeitversätzen etc. Apparently, the player with the DVD is not clear.
But the only thing I changed was the bit rate. Is there something I need to know what soltle?
What can be wrong?
On DVD hab ichs with Encore 1.5. spellbound.
Gruß,
S
Antwort von Markus73:
But the only thing I changed was the bit rate. Is there something I need to know what soltle? You have it but you already answered: bitrate not set too high, so many have problems. With a good encoder you notice other side of the 6000 mostly anyway no difference anymore.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von Sess:
Thanks for the answer!
Actually thought I already responded to ...
Hab ich doch oO synonymous.
Was vll. deleted?
Naja. Thank you very much!
Gruß,
Sess
Antwort von AndyZZ:
With kodierst what bitrate you sound? The bitrate you need to 'yes' to the bit rate of the image to calculate.
Is your sound in Dolby A3 (typically 384 kbit / s) or MPEG (typically 224 kbit / s) or PCM (1536 kbit / s).
In front of you mentioned problems, I have the feeling you kodierst your sound in PCM.
8000 kbit / s Picture + 1536 kbit / s sound are 9536 kbit / s totaol. That is the absolute limit and makes some players definitely problems.
Antwort von Sess:
If I were a normal consumer with mini DVCam recorded, can I then TMPGEnc Sound in Dolby Digital?
And: The original material is interlaced. At the end of it but on a device s.TV AND s.Calculator ansehbar be.
Can I adjust Progressive, as with this recent deal with them?
And 2: Can it happen that when I get my Project ultimately have on a DVD, I s.PC screen above the time code information see?
And if so, enough to TMPGEnc in the "Crop Picture" apply? But this is changing but my PAL resolution. Is this really so? (at least tells me that my TMPGEnc while I Cropper)
Antwort von tommyb:
0: That you can, you do not. Stereo genüngt in your case.
1: Keep in interlaced. Your Television will thank you. The player uses the s.PC You should, however, properly interlaced to play it. This can be any reasonable software (eg VLC Player or WinDVD).
2: If the timecode is burnt into the non-fixed (ie you play the file in Windows Media Player s.and everything is "clean") then synonymous nothing on the DVD from time code to be seen. Otherwise, you have to cropping and immediately add a black edge so that the PAL Resolutionbleibt.
Alternatively, you play it the next time via firewire and sensibly without time code with the program WinDV (or similar) on your calculator.
Antwort von Sess:
Thanks for your answer.
But with Interlaced I think not quite. If I get my material on DVD as interlaced rausgebe, there are streaks all over the player. Look I see a purchase this DVD s.sind not there.
Purchase These DVDs are progressive but rather synonymous, right?
And if they are interlaced, why does this shoot on my calculator does not interlaced stripes?
Antwort von tommyb:
But with Interlaced I think not quite. If I get my material on DVD as interlaced rausgebe, there are streaks all over the player. Look I see a purchase this DVD s.sind not there. Let "Switch Reloaded" as an example. This is interlaced, but there are no stripes.
Why? Because the material has been encoded interlaced and the white.
Let anderesrum time a progressively mastered DVD. Since the stream is a meta-information embedded that it is progressive. Then this is the progressive synonymous again, if he reflect the progressive kan.
Suppose we have s.Du interlaced material. This codierst you to MPEG2, but tell the encoder does not predict that it is interlaced. You say it is progressive. The encoder is usually silly and do exactly what you've told him. He thinks the 25 pictures he has are quite normal frames and encoded these as synonymous. Would the setting the option "interlaced" is enabled, then the 25 images on fields and investigate the entire coding accordingly.
You Schaust you this DVD now at s.TV, then your "Ui, ui, this is progressive!" and there is progressive again - instead of interlaced back to. Then you see on TV these unsightly lines. This is a AUTHORING ERROR!
Would you your interlaced material synonymous interlaced coded, then you would have this problem.
And if they are interlaced, why does this shoot on my calculator does not interlaced stripes? There are purchase DVDs despite progressive material as interlaced coded. This serves purely for compatibility or worse standard of evidence of change (especially visible in like anime).
In your specific case, but you should see your player s.PC times set. Either the picture must be deinterlaced or geBOBt.
This can, for example, the VLC player quite well.
Antwort von Sess:
Thanks you perform for your answer!
Then you see on TV these unsightly lines. This is a AUTHORING ERROR! On the TV I had no stripes, I spoke only of a player on a computer.
This means, my player to the calculator shows only a false interpretation of the play material strips.
My interlaced exported files will be displayed but striated.
In other words, these files do not hold information code for the player to which material is, but with the finalization on DVD, this Code will be written?
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And, in mini-DV format recorded sound (stereo) can not "Dolby Digital" or something to convert. Correct?
Thank you,
Sess
Antwort von RickyMartini:
The VLC is not very "streifenanfällig"!;)
By ollen WMP, you have the problem is not, nor with a clever commercial Player PowerDVD.
Antwort von Sam Steez:
What is s.besten when DVD ne ready for stamping does the sound in MCP or MPEG? And by chance someone knows if the DVD you are into stamping flawlessly on every run, because I have not finished DVD, and on the cheap from Wall-Mart, the net 100% with me aufm (synonymous cheap) and s. PC runs, but they astrein ... may now be of that of Wall-Mart the burned disc player DVD-like net, but then pressed with the DVD is in turn well clear? Or should you so ne DVD in no case enter into the stamping?
So I proceeded: Project from the premiere Mpeg2-DVD (Audio: PCM), Quality: 5, bitrate: Min / target / Max: 1.5 / 4 / 7 Mbps out rendered into Encore as a window cut Imports, Menu made and then DVD.
Would evil good if someone has ne answer, thank you ...
Antwort von Kar.El.Gott:
I have in recent years about 500,000 DVD in different denominations can be pressed.
Whether the burned Master runs on all players or not is no preference. The master will not be used as a stamp. The data for the Masters will be in the press on a disk read.
I will create an avi in Premiere, import it into Encore, Encore DVD can create folders and then burn with Nero the master. Here I let Nero after burning the data with the data on the hard drive compare. When you have a brand-blank, you can not really go wrong.
However, I have the first order for over 60,000 DVDs can not sleep well.
Antwort von Sam Steez:
okay thank you!
Is my method anyway Okay so far, or should I worry?
Antwort von Sam Steez:
Hab nochmal now the Project as a "folder" gespeichet, not directly of Encore DVD, but on the hard drive, habs then burned with Nero and it seems better to go ...
Antwort von Sess:
Burns Encore actually error-prone than Nero?
What is the reason for an expensive software that is designed?
Antwort von jazzy_d:
"Burn Engines" in Schnittproggis or synonymous in Authoringproggis are away. Nero or other synonymous Freeware Brennproggis well do exactly what they should do, namely burn. And cut Authoringproggis or just make it good for what they are good at, cut and author. I suppose so Word does not synonymous to a table to make synonymous when it would go.
Encore is designed vorallem authoring right to make and not to burn.
Another advantage when the Project first on hard ausgiebt is that the "disc" s.PC first with an appropriate player software can test (menu, jump labels, end-actions, etc.) and who's very well take wants now is first time a DVD-RW or BD-RE.
Antwort von Sess:
All clear.
OffTopic: Do I have something special note when I get my project to a double layer brenenn want? Both Nero / Encore adjust something?
Antwort von tommyb:
No..
Antwort von WoWu:
Sess @
In relation to your interlaced problem, you have to be synonymous, however, noted that the wrong Filedorder available once you DV material on a PAL TV to play, because DV material (; PAL_DV (; as PAL)) is "lower" firstName Filed , whereas PAL widescreen, so 16:9 "upper Filed is first.
So You Want to PAL DV material on a PAL TV to view, you need either the Field Order for editing rotate, or when transferred to DVD.
A digital TV is expected to be interpreted as meaning "upper field first. It can happen to you so that the images differ, depending on what monitor you are ansiehst.
The DVD is as nothing. On the are progressive, as well as interlace images into uniform bitstreams stored, only the progressive flag for the image is either "true" or "lazy".
But there are interlaced with yet another effect that is so similar to the interlace problem resulting from the use of 4:2:0 material comes from.
A decoder must match the color accordingly. These are the colors from the wrong line, not from neighboring lines, but from next line taken away. This fact appears in every line a false color, in such a comb (; similar) effects impact.
This is not a bug but a weakness of the system interlace method, sometimes for the wrong Field Order is held. (; But is not).
Antwort von MK:
So You Want to PAL DV material on a PAL TV to view, you need either the Field Order for editing rotate, or when transferred to DVD. Normally it is a DV source from the MPEG-2 stream as Lower Field First for flags ... The player then gives the correct output from s.analogen at Progressive is on a player is not progressive scan support the upper field first output. As mentioned above has been written that the MPEG-2 progressive output, it is synonymous here the fault is.
Software player s.PC can usually deinterlace in real time, so the field order is always input format = output format if you do not change the Field order to make (a conversion of the Field Order zBswenigstens losses would be achieved by placing the whole picture a line moves up or down).
If it is progressive flags you would like to have to deinterlace it before no problems with the wrong Field Order to get.
Antwort von MK:
No.. The layer break can only s.Beginn a cell be ... s.Anfang that is either a title or s.einem Chapter (Chapter and must be always with an I-frame start).
For this reason, there is usually synonymous problems when using a DVD-data structure on a DVD burning and the burning DVDs on video program is not able to break the layer s.Beginn cell to a new set (either because the program can not technically or simply not an appropriate point for the layer break is available).
That should already noted later when you are no problems with the playability wants. Encore is expected to burn this video DVDs of probably the better choice.
Antwort von tommyb:
Never had problems with it.
Here's to feature!
Antwort von Sess:
1) So, if I make a double layer describe - better yet take Encore. Do you that?
2) This geflagge and image sequences has me now more than irritated.
I have now made my first DV material, 4:3 (720x576) Interlaced, lower field first and uncompressed (AVI) exports. As always.
Normally I would now go into TMPGEnc, tell him what evidence exists and in MPEG2, 4:3 (720x576) Interlaced, bottom first, 6000-bit format.
Then invite Encore and burn.
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EDIT:
In TMPGEnc, he recognizes the material as "Pixel 12:11 (PAL 4:3)."
Alternative choice would be "display 4:3"
In the MPEG settings, I can only display 4:3 "option.
And now?
Antwort von WoWu:
EDIT:
In TMPGEnc, he recognizes the material as "Pixel 12:11 (PAL 4:3)."
Alternative choice would be "display 4:3"
In the MPEG settings, I can only display 4:3 "option.
And now? You must obviously know what format you have.
It really only come into question:
720x576 D1 PAL 4:3 (Pix ratio 1.067) (upper field first)
768x576 PAL 4:3 (ratio pic 1) (lower field first)
720x576 PAL DV 5:4 (Pix ratio 1.067) (lower field first)
PAL 720x576 WideScreen 16:9 (Pix ratio 1.422) (upper field first)
What TMPGEnc recognizes that with 12:11, I do not synonymous.
The format is actually in the environment do not.
Antwort von MK:
Never had problems with it. But I will hope that the authoring program knows what this does, and with correspondingly large projects you will be synonymous pointed out where the layer break as yet another chapter is needed.
Automatic Choice, especially if the layer break in the middle of the film must pass, the worst option, since it can not conceal (depending on the player briefly halted in the film when layer break).
With Nero is not in any event, the layer break setting, as the first layer and then filled with the second layer continued.
Antwort von Sess:
You must obviously know what format you have.
It really only come into question:
720x576 D1 PAL 4:3 (Pix ratio 1.067) (upper field first)
768x576 PAL 4:3 (ratio pic 1) (lower field first)
720x576 PAL DV 5:4 (Pix ratio 1.067) (lower field first)
PAL 720x576 WideScreen 16:9 (Pix ratio 1.422) (upper field first)
What TMPGEnc recognizes that with 12:11, I do not synonymous.
The format is actually in the environment do not. So, my raw material in Premiere (MiniDV) has the following characteristics:
720x576 25fps (Pix ratio 1.067) (lower filed first)
When your target is there but 5:4. What is the only again? What is because a standard MiniDV cam on? 4:3 or 5:4?
Antwort von WoWu:
720x576
is 5:4 (720 / 5 * 4 = 576)
4:3 is only the "housewife title" for which there is no differentiation except 4:3 and 16:9, but for the digital format is just
wrong. On the other hand, with the format works and afterwards to the correct Picture hopes to do even more synonymous in the subtleties.
Antwort von Sess:
That is, if I TMPGEnc RESTRICT 4:3 is 5:4?
Antwort von WoWu:
I do not know what to TMPGEnc as everything is described as 4:3.
For serious software, I would expect if it is 4:3, which it is synonymous 4:3 and 720x576 if I want to do that then it is synonymous 5:4 and not the wrong format.
And if it is 4:3, PAL, I would expect, ie 768x576.
But, as I said, I would expect of a serious software.
I unfortunately do not work with TMPGEnc and am therefore not meaningful in this respect.
Antwort von Sess:
Which program is using for you?
I am now a bit puzzled whether TMPGEnc should indicate the video is "Pixel 12:11 (; PAL 4:3)" or "4:3 display" is select ...
The 720x576 BZE. 768x576.
The real PAL resolution is 768x576 pixels square with a pixel aspect ratio of 1:1 (; Square)
720x576 PAL D1 1:1,07 for DV, miniDV, Digital8, DVD and other digital format. The 1.067 (, 1.07) as the quasi tug, on the TV again 768x576 is synonymous.
So I was just in the network as an explanation is found.
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In Premiere gabs 720x576 with 1.067. I will then probably synonymous in TMPGE assume so because that was recorded.
2) In my first project, there were a few animations synonymous with a pixel ratio of 1.094. If the s.Ende highly noticeable?
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Sess ...
The 1.067 (1.07) as the quasi tug, on the TV again 768x576 is synonymous.
So I was just in the network as an explanation is found. Unfortunately, this is wrong, because the Television "tears" because nothing wrong and pixel formats are times wrong pixel formats. But of course I can understand when you inquire whether the notice, then just close the your first question, why SpielfilmDVDs so damn good looking .... because everything agrees.
Beginning with the Field Order and the dominance of the color to the pixel format ... just everything.
And as you see, is certainly on the, otherwise you would have it not as a positive example.
What TMPGEnc, it could well be that the only 4:3, but then if necessary, but the pixels CCIR601 specification.
I do not know what kind of "stalls" because their products into magic.
We use Scenarist for authoring of Sonic ... because we operate it commercially ... certainly not for the occasional authoring.
Only now you have so synonymous with all the information, as your signal format and the course would look.
Whether TMPGEnc just false indicates it is running correctly, but should (at least at the manufacturer) to get his out.
Antwort von Sess:
So far I have not heard of Scenarist.
Even when I'm an internship in a fairly large (not just words) Post carried advertising, told me only one of Encore, as an alternative for such a MAC Software.
I had the opportunity synonymous my data of the same Encore trancodieren to TMPGEnc instead to switch between them.
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At Encore surprised me but the following trans-code setting:
Minimum bitrate / bitrate target / Max Bitrate (all Mbit / s)
1.5000 / 7.0000 / 9.0000
I can still manually as synonymous change but as far as this sounds ok?
And a Resolutionvon 4:3 or 5:4, I can adjust synonymous nowhere, but it is synonymous PAL 'calibrated'
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And as if nothing tugs as it comes in the material a MiniDV Resolutionvon 720x576 used?
-> Is this now or should they encounter a 768 hochgepuscht are said pixel ratio of 1.067?
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Gruß,
Sess
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... ...'ve still heard nothing of Scenarist. Even when I'm an internship in a fairly large advertising post ... under consideration, told me only one of Encore, as an alternative for such a MAC Software ... Even for many professionals is simply overkill Scenarist: To the equivalent of a middle car in this software is to invest, you have very good reasons.
Antwort von Sess:
Is there a Super determination alternative to TMPGEnc?
My previous Einstelllungen with SUPER:
Antwort von MK:
To the equivalent of a middle car in this software is to invest, you have very good reasons. Scenarist cost in SD area synonymous "only" just under 4000, - EUR net ... for just under 5000, - EUR synonymous as a workgroup version incl Cinevision encoder to have.
As for the whole past has done so expensive, the hardware card for the encoding, which is at a modern fast Calculator is no longer needed.
Only one should use the whole can then;)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Costs Scenarist SD area synonymous "only" just under 4000, - EUR net ... Well, that's almost a gift ;-) I recently had something on the Blu-Ray compatible version of Scenarist read and there was around 25,000 euros of the speech.
Antwort von Sess:
And how sihT now with my 4:3 5:4 problem? : (
Should I take super or TMPGEnc or equal Encore.
* Kriese krieg
Antwort von MK:
I recently had something on the Blu-Ray compatible version of Scenarist read and there was around 25,000 euros of the speech. Yes, this is Gross with. Encoding software around that can be synonymous but up to 60,000, - increase when all software options dazunimmt.
Antwort von MK:
And how sihT now with my 4:3 5:4 problem? : (
TMPEG should normally be ok ... You can check if yes what you TMPEG reingibst synonymous in the same way again after rauskommt encoding.
When in doubt with the Encoding Encore make, then this should in any case be correct (such as the quality looks like I can not say).
Antwort von Sess:
And what you said on the "Source Aspect Ratio"?
TMPGEnc I can say whether my material "Pixel 12:11 (PAL 4:3)" or
"4:3 screen is.
Antwort von WoWu:
Sess @
Is this thread really about now, or is that now once again what else?
http://forum.slashcam.de/tmpgenc-169-welche-aspect-ratio-source-aspect-ratio-vp357783.html?sid=1b9bb67b716a9fb2f57c95a7ca94d46b#357783
Antwort von Sess:
I am trying to stop to get an answer. And since two threads fit.
Antwort von WoWu:
I wonder only because there is suddenly at 16:9 ...
But it's drum.
Antwort von Sess:
Ne I still go to 4:3 / 5:4 and the 12:11-problem
Antwort von mstix:
To further confusion:
All equalize the picture when playing a factor 12:11 (correspondingly ITU).
From a File 704:576 Thus 768:576, ie proper 4:3.
From a File 720:576 Thus 786:576, but that is synonymous flawless 4:3. The middle 704 pixels are on the 4:3 picture rectified, but there are both left and right 12:11 * 8 = 9 pixels added. This additional image content is changing the aspect ratio does not disappear, however, almost always in the overscan of the TV.
Again summarized:
720:576, while in the 5:4 format, but is in the correct 4:3 format.
The right attitude is "Pixel 12:11 (; PAL 4:3)."
The "4:3 display" is also for other 4:3 source format as provided 320:240.
Antwort von Sess:
Thank you for your explanation! Did you read somewhere or where you know that?
I now have my AVI to an MPEG2 with eienr bitrate of 6000 changed.
The avi looks VLC and Media Player from flawlessly. The MPEG shows (A) and in two stripes (B) flashes / flickers the upper edge of the video.
Looks like an unclean signal.
I now have the top and bottom of the unit of 3-ge Cropt and zusäzlich top and bottom to compensate an equally small black bars added. The next Auflösugn remains on 576th
-> 1) Is this approach ok?
-> 2) I know this because the very top of the time code drinnsteckt, saw me, but not out. Why is this flickering?
And what is with (A)? If the s.den players?
