Frage von Bokii:
Hi,
my name is Daniel and look for some time regularly in this forum over. Thanks again in advance for the many useful info.
For the production of
fishing DVDs are we to find the right camcorder.
We are planning some of the images (eg, landscape shots, beauty shots, etc.) on Digi-Beta (16:9) to rotate. The rest is with a handheld camcorder will be rotated. Budget is between
2500 and 4000 ¬. In general, my question s.euch: For a
DVD production
DV or HDV? The advantages and disadvantages of each format, I know so far only theoretical treatise (read from this forum and of other Internet pages).
The shooting conditions:
- We will shoot almost exclusively outdoors
- We are all day-and night time shoot. (Lowlight)
- We will rotate in and s.Wasser (UW-Housing / Pol-filter / etc)
- We are on a partially confined space (boat) turn (WW)
vs.
- We will partially rotate observing from the shore (Telephoto)
- I am not a trained / skilled cameraman (handling)
- Sliced with FCPro is
- XLRs are mandatory
For DV, I have the
PD170 and the
DVX100BE in the eye.
In the HDV
V1 or
Z1. Actually, I am, incidentally, has for the Canon XHA1 decided (of their test values / price performance due). When I but then in the hands it had passed me. She was too bulky and unwieldy. If you have any questions about my questions better be able to answer, please just go and so many thanks,
Daniel
Antwort von snowy:
... Before you decide, you should then necessarily synonymous, but look what an underwater housing for your cam will cost - that goes beyond your nähmlich RuckZuck the budget. I think "right underwater housing" - not as a comic bag. "
eg housing for:
Eqinox DVX 100 of about 1000 ¬
PD 170 brother of approximately 2600 ¬
V1E of Sealux about 2900 ¬
Z1E brother of ca, 3300 ¬
are certainly more ...
Antwort von snowy:
If the tone is not as important, an
fx7/fx1/vx2100 something handy to ... and consequently (?)
perhaps synonymous uw cheaper housing type ...
gruß cj
Antwort von Quadruplex:
When serious work is only the DVD Verteilmedium and is consequently s.Ende of the production chain. HDV is certainly the recording medium is not bad - synonymous to the DVD if only a portion of the higher Resolutionrüberkommt. But given the already mentioned Prices for submersible enclosure is the camcorder almost negligible ...
Antwort von snowy:
If the tone is not as important, an
fx7/fx1/vx2100 something handy to ... and consequently (?)
perhaps synonymous uw cheaper housing type ...
gruß cj not really - for example, BS Kinetics of approximately ¬ 2800 ,-... but in Italy there are so plastic housing to which are slightly cheaper.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Of production ... ... Angel DVDs Underwater Housing ... ... beyond you nähmlich RuckZuck the budget ... Do I need for the rotation of such videos really a high-tech underwater housing that tens of meters up in Depth leaks? I always thought the fishing would be important to the fish from the water out of it ;-) For some ten meters of water depth would then be synonymous to a much cheaper housing of eg ewa-marine.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von snowy:
Oh Oh - did you ever with a sachet of Ewa Marine worked?
Handling by the film through - water temperature below 15 ° - the diver has gloves ... Bon voyage!
Time, aside from the tightness of the things is pure luck.
Then even more of a "sport chassis - used up about 5 meters (are there usof Sony - but only for the consumer devices).
Another solution would be for underwater, for example, the new HDV - Walkman of Sonyand on one of the gates will close so a "Bullet Cam", etc. (which it hopefully will be synonymous with decent resolution, type). In total, well below 2000, - and you go with the Sony Walkman equal a solution for viewing, or capturing or save or copy or ... remain> 2000, - for the cam (eg, a SonyHVR A1).
LG
Antwort von beiti:
I would carefully whether the shooting on DigiBeta needed. The quality advantage over downscaled HDV is expected to produce the DVDs not be big, especially when it comes to more static shots under good lighting conditions. True, the advantage of DigiBeta, when little light to be rotated and / or when fast movements in the picture are (a weakness of HDV) - but just that you want to DigiBeta do
not use.
The Rotate on DigiBeta is enormously expensive (equipment rental, tape, editing / conversion) and for inexperienced camera operator hardly sensible feasible because, with this many cameras must employ in order to exploit them properly. I advise starting. :)
Will say: Dear the saved money into a better HDV cam and accessories plug. In IR there is still a bit light-enhanced models (as you mentioned of the PD 170), but provide no ordinary 16:9 (but what you seem to aspire) and thus fall out.
For 16:9 come in handy range prosumer HDV cams only in question, even if you (in terms of DVD production) only in DV should intersect.
In addition to the underwater housing is another expensive accessories Tripod a good (for your telephoto shots from the shore) to be. The sound engineering is synonymous still devour. So the camcorder as such is not the most expensive s.Ende be.
Antwort von Markus:
[ewa navy] times aside, the tightness of the things is pure luck. That has nothing to do with luck, but with care:
Underwater Case for Consumer
Antwort von Yasmin:
* Beep * I would like for your irregular rotation never a housing purchase and prefer to borrow a finished cam. my 2 cents ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
Passt yet. Glossy stuff on its Digibeta, the rest with a Z1. Then just record HDV and down neatly in Calculator expected.
Antwort von ronsei:
Thank you for the many replies.
Digi-Beta is included cameraman posted. Is it in the budget. Although the picture quality will not worlds better, a cameraman is just one who's learned, and that you can see the pictures, I think, at least.
In my budget, I only description of the camera from. Once and then after, I would Equipment (Tripods, spark, etc) to buy.
Did yesterday HDV material and must say that the reserves are simply great. We need a picture a little bloat? No problem. Think that looks at data differently.
Yesterday the synonymous Progressive Scan V1 tried and must say: That was really ok. No hardcore stroboscopic flicker, but rather a "slightly different look."
Was synonymous otherwise V1 of handling very well. The only thing I worry for the V1, is the lack of wide area. With a (probably bad) WW-bent intent in the background, the walls and pillars as in the journey into a parallel dimension.
UW, we will probably have a small consumer camcorder we make for a real underwater housings have.
What do you think of ABA-jib crane?
Thanks in advance
Daniel
Antwort von PowerMac:
Den of Aba, I know not, but the Jibs Eazjib of Panther and I found so far good.
