Frage von fratres:
Hello,
Please excuse that I touch on a topic that certainly has often been discussed. I need urgently a council, as I said in the coming week, a camera must be ordered and then a decision should be.
We need a camera, with the first documentations of video presentations, lectures and exhibition openings in a museum are to be filmed. Some concerts will be synonymous, then still time to time of an animation workshop, in which case a single trip would be important.
Some of the documentaries will be synonymous to the website via streaming.
It is almost entirely filmed indoors, often synonymous with state camera, but often in difficult lighting conditions (eg dark room with the audience and speaker, projector screen behind bright s.der wall), so that a good Lowlight behavior would be very important.
Originally I had the Canon XM2 envisaged. Taste is not so much insane and should have for the area of rich, but stop a little older and no XLR outputs (would not be so bad). I was then but the Panasonic DVX100BE as yet more light and a whole "professional" is recommended.
Actually, I wanted away from the tape, but there seemed to me after some searching suitable or not (such as the P2 cards) to be too expensive, so I thought s.Harddisks or flash memory solutions erstmal again abandoned.
When you look around here in the forum, I came to the then still SonyVX2100 or PD170, and then here credo seems to be that there is currently no longer makes sense, about 2000, - Euro in an SD Camera with drive stuck.
Actually I am of the opinion that, for our purposes HD is completely unnecessary and probably in the next few years is not needed, but if it is an HD camera should give the whole is better than the SD cameras, I am naturally very ear (the Canon A1 is indeed here again highly praised).
In short, I had synonymous with the new Panasonic HMC151 to think, then yes, the memory cards offer a solution, but for us AVCHD is probably not the right one. Even HDV likely overwhelm our calculator (MiniMacs or PCs with Core2Duos), but for Computing Down to SD it should be enough.
The main question thus: is described for the purpose a Mini-SD Camera still s.meisten sense, and if so, which:
Panasonic DVX100BE
Canon XM2
SonyVX2100
SonyPD170
Or should we go to HD (Lowlight quality sufficient?), Because the cameras are simply better and no longer synonymous cost, ie
Canon XH A1
SonyFX1000
Panasonic HMC151E ev
And as a supplementary question again acuminate: suppose I film only SD, would be a Pana DVX100BE or a Canon XH A1 better?
It would be really great if you could answer without hints I aufgeschmissen!
Antwort von fratres:
None has a small tip?
Will not push, but unfortunately I have to decide tomorrow.
Antwort von Der Die Das:
I can give you of my Page from the XH-A1 recommend. You think maybe you need the HD resolution, not because you eh everything in SD ausgibst.
But, there are situations in which class is it just a bit of leeway to have.
Example 1:
I once interviewed with a tape run, 4 man, but I had only my XH-A1 and a second camera is a bit of editing images drehn. I've then in the post (it should afterwards Resolutionsein SD) just zoomed into the picture (each 2 man per frame) and so have created the impression as if there was 2 cameras. And there was the SD Resolutiondie it later, has no one noticed. (Digital camera rides are possible synonymous)
Example 2:
You have extremely shaky shots and they want to stabilize afterwards. Then you have with the 4 times higher Resolutionals SD super opportunities.
Well, and other qualities of the A1 already allowed you of other Page heard.
Best Regards
Antwort von Jan:
This question is in the way here, unfortunately, until durchgekaut were vomiting. Especially when it comes to the Canon XH A1, DVX 100 & PD 170's.
We know not at all synonymous, what with the material you want to do, and how the knowledge is.
It might be that the Internet Camera for small clips thought, the film is more of a beginner (like the automatic in the filming), and the location of the filmmakers do not want or can shed light on - then the PD 170 is a very interesting camera. Could be but synonymous, that the filmmaker's works at an exhibition will present, then normally s.hochauflösenden devices - then the PD would be 170 false Camera.
The differences between the 4x 576i Pal cameras are synonymous often been queried, but are synonymous in the Sonybiz, Panasonic or Canon Broadcast Page is easy to compare. Each of your referred cameras has strengths and weaknesses, the perfect camera, there are not long, it was the PD 170 - the time is past but synonymous.
VG
Jan
Antwort von fratres:
Ah, wonderful, thank you for the answers! I'm sorry, Jan, I understand that the issue has been discussed often determines, yes I've already pre apologized. I have but as I said only until tomorrow, because I create it is no longer me through all the threads to read.
Shooting will be different people, but certainly most beginners. It is not synonymous give additional illumination. For the majority of clips will be in retrospect not so insanely much cut in the rule is probably just a DVD is created and the material is then archived. The time, eg to improve blurred images will not be there.
Therefore I thought that it maybe s.besten is just an SD Camera to buy. The material is probably as good as ever on HD screens will be shown, so that the output format only in exceptional cases will be HD.
Because the A1 is still synonymous with a friend, if I directly into DV video? In any case, thanks for the recommendation, The The The.
And if an SD camera should make more sense: enough with XLR renunciation of the 2100, or would a PD170 or DVX100BE but then the better choice?
Antwort von Jan:
Since the PD 170 now so for about the same price as the traded XH A 1 is the choice in the price fell rather quickly.
Although the Canon in unexperienced hands synonymous not easy to film is.
The PD 170 is in the automatic very strong, synonymous with the White Balance, I had almost never with their problems, that is rarely a manual WAG had to be made inside the preconfiguration has often artificial fit.
So you can quite at the Camera Lowlight synonymous not beat, well, the Canon is synonymous not so bad.
If the sound and DVCAM recording and a few little things are not so important, then one could synonymous watch the VX 2100. One could then approximately 1 / 3 of the budget savings.
The DVX was once a good camera, for the present course, it is far too expensive.
Then estimated at 90% of users come here the verdict: take the XH A 1! It showed quite similar to some 100 questions. With budget of 2000 ¬ is the VX 2100 for certain applications synonymous but not a bad camera, but since there are 3500 ¬ - Canon will probably be the lucky winner.
VG
Jan
Antwort von fratres:
Hey Jan,
super, very sincere thanks! Just as I needed. And twice, thank you, despite the old theme of the time for the answers made it.
Especially the sentence "The DVX was once a good camera, for the present course, it is far too expensive." facilitates the decision now to me but substantial.
Then I will respect the budget tomorrow, just to hedge again, and then it is probably the A1. In the hope that users will then be synonymous and can handle the PAL quality.
Now I must just find a good provider.
Is the built-Micro ok (for the described use) or should I do about what to buy?
Antwort von Tuffy:
Hi fratres,
I did not so now the idea, but a fellow student, the A1 and from the internal mic was sooo not impressed, just because you speakers for far more of a characteristic other will want, rather than what mace-synonymous-always-be-installed.
XLR is off the bracket in place, nothing speaks against a clever Mic, in the current video movies are three Mics with XLR been tested, the RODE M3 is not as interesting (because kidney characteristics), the Beyerdynamic roars a little strong , you should probably RODE NTG2 what for you ...? A Sennheiser MKH 66 or so is certainly not in the budget ...
If there is kidney but rather should be, the M3 would be synonymous but not bad (maybe if someone in the audience questions?), I find the sound subjectively better (video movies on the home page you can download samples!).
One way or another are fairly good and probably sufficient, perhaps, it is yes to both (or both in parallel, and two sound channels are there!)
A good micro does not change the fact that the cameraman lay-synonymous intercept must / should be a couple of intelligent, appropriate Headphones do not forget!
Greeting
Antwort von nicecam:
Hi fratres,
maybe I can see the decision, which is now pending, synonymous a little easier.
I myself yesterday for the XH A1 decided. However, never above alternatives to choose from, but only the new SonyHDR FX 1000th
Although the Canon in unexperienced hands synonymous not easy to film is.
But I think you yourself with the Canon a bit busy, and with proboscis presets the camera you should already have a grip;
in any event, trust me, thanks to the help here in the forum quite s.die XH A1 out
Gruß Johannes
Antwort von Jan:
In the hope that users will then be synonymous and can handle the PAL quality.
Under normal circumstances, the quality of the computed down 576i PAL recordings with the HD camera better, this could be what determines when the trunk read:
Wolfgangs FX Support Ich habe die fünf Kameras (Panasonic DVX100, Canon XM2, SonyVX2100, SonyPD170, Canon XH A1) schon mal in der Hand & auf dem Tripod gehabt, die XH A 1 aber nur recht kurz. Daher habe ich dort weniger praktische Erfahrungen.
Wolfgangs FX Support
Ich habe die fünf Kameras (Panasonic DVX100, Canon XM2, SonyVX2100, SonyPD170, Canon XH A1) schon mal in der Hand & auf dem Tripod gehabt, die XH A 1 aber nur recht kurz. Daher habe ich dort weniger praktische Erfahrungen.
Wolfgangs FX Support
Ich habe die fünf Kameras (Panasonic DVX100, Canon XM2, SonyVX2100, SonyPD170, Canon XH A1) schon mal in der Hand & auf dem Tripod gehabt, die XH A 1 aber nur recht kurz. Daher habe ich dort weniger praktische Erfahrungen.
