Frage von Raphael87:
Hi I'm looking for nem camcorder (synonymous of Ebay can be used), with whom I NEN some snowboard videos can have Digicam (Fx-07) is simply not good enough of the Resolutionher (not just stop your camcorder) -- )
What can you do so in the price range up to 200 euros recommend? Should have a have viewfinders, digitally joa and may be even more robust. Joa ^ ^ So I realized that I certainly max 200euro no cream pieces but can expect naja schaun times.
Thanks in advance
Raphael
achso would with any SD or SD-HC comes in handy
Antwort von opel:
... for the price but the frustration is inevitable!
Antwort von Daigoro:
Maybe Panasonic SDR-S7 or S9 s.ca. 210, -.
SDR-SW20 or about 290, - (which is water resistant and 'outdoor' suitable and there is somewhere very nice to me the Skifahrvideos were rotated).
Do not have viewfinders, more so 'fun' cameras with memory card and 'as little falschmach equipment.
Or Samsung MX20 - about 180, --
Antwort von Raphael87:
naja also
Synonymous words used 1.wie come into question
2.wird synonymous not much is expected.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
we had recently:
what-camcorder-to-the-150 VG
Jan
Antwort von Daigoro:
naja also
Synonymous words used 1.wie come into question
How can you recommend what used? That depends of the market situation s.and of whether the price is fair or not, above all by the state.
There's of the "Grandpa Camera," in her life yet has filmed 5 Bands and well stowed in the cabinet located to the total bitch abgenudelten capture everything.
Guck dir halt to what it offers is for Google, the test reports (not just User reviews - which are for the ton - camcorder info, video enabled Slashcam, perhaps even ZDnet and chip) and watch them see above is well described and meaningful photos are here.
2.wird synonymous not much is expected. A mobile phone with video function for 1, - Euro synonymous filming in the contract and you save 150, - Euro for a Camera, which is little better.
Most people looking forward, moving pictures of themselves to be seen - the quality is not nearly as respected. If you then shoot as a hobby for you and discover developing ambitions appear 500-1000 euros for thee ne Camera synonymous not much (do you buy your Snowboard yes not synonymous for 29.95 at Aldi).
Antwort von Raphael87:
A mobile phone with video function for 1, - Euro synonymous filming in the contract and you save 150, - Euro for a Camera this is my view after mist ..... So NEN cellphone is probably not time to compare, I think it is somehow a pity if you do not get a sensible answer can ..... arrogant "profit" Filming with meaningful comments bring freedom I do not really next
Antwort von Daigoro:
That was a sensible answer.
A mobile phone or a camera with video function does nothing other than synonymous record videos.
And the current devices are not so bad times - especially during the Korean counts at least 640x480 with 30fps and with expandable MicroSD memory card has a standard - no comparison to the 176 x 144QCIF @ 15fps of a few years ago.
What this arrogant "professional films Risch" this should be considered as an alternative to mention you probably do not understand.
Antwort von chrisi907:
If you want to make snowboarding videos, you need to seriously watch out with the temperature. As soon as you verreckt some equipment, just a cheap, less than -10 ° C.
Antwort von Raphael87:
hi also ich hab nochmal so NEN bissy compatriots and ide Practica and 5.1 found on the company website synonymous sample videos in original size, etc. and if it really makes videos, I would be so completely satisfied ... or is there another comparable brand device?
http://camcorder.praktica.de/index.php?id=4&no_cache=1&L=0&dlpath=samples% 2Fvideos
Antwort von darg:
A mobile phone with video function for 1, - Euro synonymous filming in the contract and you save 150, - Euro for a Camera
this is my view after mist ..... So NEN cellphone is probably not time to compare, I think it is somehow a pity if you do not get a sensible answer can ..... arrogant "profit" Filming with meaningful comments bring freedom I do not really next Since Raphael87 has unfortunately not too wrong. You have a CAMT at Media Markt s.der customers bank battle, where the cams are in no cases with the view of the images on a television monitor, or even compare. On the mini display of Cams / Mobiles provides each recording from rat sharp, super light and the colors fantastic game but look at the video from your calculator. It reminds you so much from the face and the difference between a cellphone video and one from a 150-200 Eurocam is as minimal. That is a price category, which only produced frustration :-)
Antwort von Martin Dienert:
Hello Raphael87,
after my Canon MV200 was broken, I have a "new" second-hand and am looking at the bay found anything. There could I have a MV30 (Canon) for 90 euros at auction. As my brother has a camera, I knew the weaknesses and synonymous knew the strengths of this camera. After the camera came with me, I like it once used for cleaning (35 euro in the local TV shop). Since I really only holiday movies, this camera is now the gap to buy a HD-camera close.
It is of course always a risk of a used camera but to buy a total of 125 Euro was worth the fun me and it worked. :-)
The offer in the bay is very unübersichtlicht and you have to bring a bit of patience. Perhaps you have a favorite company, "after which you can filter out only once. And then on the Internet whether you are looking for info on these cameras can get. The important thing is perhaps not synonymous they are too old.
The risk lies with you. ;-)
Martin
Antwort von shipoffools:
Hello,
in the price range up to 200 euro remains only the possibility to look for a used around when you make shots halfway sensible wants, when it's synonymous with risk is ... you never know how a used camera has been treated, what tapes were used (hopefully only places a band ...), etc.
But with a little luck to get a device that is a few years ago was still significantly more expensive and still halfway to the state of the art.
From experience I can for example SonyDCR-HC14e highly recommend. price 2004 was around 400 - 600 Euro, and the image quality of these mini-DV Camera was in this price range really cool! (Does a Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar Lens.) You get it today at some auctions as between 70 and 200 euros. With luck we caught a synonymous DCR-HC40 or 50 to 200 euros.
Best Regards
shipoffools
Antwort von Jan:
Praktica DVC 5.1 HD?
Sounds at first glance not so bad, is distinguished from Aiptek scrap a little, as the yes part of their HD equipment is not properly times the distance measure (Fixfocus).
Why has not the Camera Image Stabilization? Not even a digital, now the time has any cheap box. Otherwise it does not so extremely cheap as other models in the price range.
Praktica heard but unfortunately with the German companies who are using their good name, and not only "screw" in Germany to attract - all the Far East goods. Rollei, Voigtländer Minox or make it synonymous but not otherwise, so customer can see some of his new Rollei at Aldi as a Traveler - yes because identical - is of several companies contracted.
In the area of Praktica Digicam components of Sony, Samsung and Casio - often of older models, but not necessarily entirely a bad thing - the camera is built in the Far East, primarily in China. In Dresden is just a warehouse with a small shop (if it is still there - then yes I lived not far away from the terrain). Well, everyone has to survive somehow ...
VG
Jan
Antwort von Daigoro:
The test shots (funny as filmed by Tripod) look rather from Aiptek.
Strong compression artifacts / blurring, CA, when the zoom is pumping at maximum brightness and wide Anglescheint them darker than the maximum zoom (should not, if ever, be reversed?).
And in daylight and very static settings - that is almost ideal conditions.
It is positive that I did the same with several players (VLC / Apple Quicktime) immediately on multiple computers have done, the videos, many of the lowest Cams is often not the case.
Antwort von shipoffools:
Again, something about the temperature as mentioned above:
If it's significantly below 0 ° C goes, it's for the cameras, most problematic, with many expensive synonymous. When band's equipment can be easy to "hang" of the strip, ie Sound and picture will no longer run synchronously and powerful artifacts occur (unfortunately I had already personally experienced ...) Ideally, Camera Batteries and always nice and warm to hold. Possibly. synonymous here and look:
http://forum.slashcam.de/kamera-with-in-die-kalte-vt30649.html?highlight=temperaturen
As with other cameras recording media (miniDVD, Built-in hard disk, flash memory, etc.) behave in extreme cold, I do not know, but because it's easy not to be synonymous. Furthermore, because we (still) not a "reasonable" device to get 200 euros, synonymous not needed.
Antwort von KSProduction:
Hi I'm looking for nem camcorder (synonymous of Ebay can be used), with whom I NEN some snowboard videos can have Digicam (Fx-07) is simply not good enough of the Resolutionher (not just stop your camcorder) -- )
What can you do so in the price range up to 200 euros recommend? Should have a have viewfinders, digitally joa and may be even more robust. Joa ^ ^ So I realized that I certainly max 200euro no cream pieces but can expect naja schaun times.
Thanks in advance
Raphael
achso would with any SD or SD-HC comes in handy Hello! There is indeed something. and although, I call it mal "house brand" of media market. das ding costs around 160 euro and has a relatively low 5-fold optical zoom. otherwise it may be with the premium manufacturers to keep pace. Also, there is now synonymous for s.200 euro bargain-brand manufacturers. augen stop, because there already was.
Antwort von KSProduction:
A mobile phone with video function for 1, - Euro synonymous filming in the contract and you save 150, - Euro for a Camera
this is my view after mist ..... So NEN cellphone is probably not time to compare, I think it is somehow a pity if you do not get a sensible answer can ..... arrogant "profit" Filming with meaningful comments bring freedom I do not really next
Since Raphael87 has unfortunately not too wrong. You have a CAMT at Media Markt s.der customers bank battle, where the cams are in no cases with the view of the images on a television monitor, or even compare. On the mini display of Cams / Mobiles provides each recording from rat sharp, super light and the colors fantastic game but look at the video from your calculator. It reminds you so much from the face and the difference between a cellphone video and one from a 150-200 Eurocam is as minimal. That is a price category, which only produced frustration :-) can not say. there are now auslaufmodelle the manufacturer of premium 400 have tasted of the 199 to make much better recordings than any cell phone camera. simply because they often have 20-fold optical zoom and have one for his needs on the ski-piste, but very good results.
Antwort von Daigoro:
to make much better recordings than any cell phone camera. simply because they often have 20-fold optical zoom have .. Then make the shots better than synonymous ne SonyZ7 or EX3?
They have only 12 or 14fachen optical zoom.
Antwort von KSProduction:
to make much better recordings than any cell phone camera. simply because they often have 20-fold optical zoom have ..
Then make the shots better than synonymous ne SonyZ7 or EX3?
They have only 12 or 14fachen optical zoom. ey! So come on! you've got to read that he was looking up to 200 euro * lach * willste him now that he is purely press instead of 180 euro now is to spend 1800? na du bist vielleicht ein toller Adviser. Let's look what he has to say * gg *
Antwort von Daigoro:
ey! So come on! you've got to read that he was looking up to 200 euro * lach * willste him now that he is purely press instead of 180 euro now is to spend 1800? na du bist vielleicht ein toller Adviser. Let's look what he has to say * gg * No.. But the size of the optical zoom (and the number of megapixels Photosmart function) there are no quality criteria.
The (former MSRP) price is very conditional.
Sure, there's synonymous Schnäppchen (HC5 for 499, - comes to mind since), but only because some times twice as much cost as it is now no better.
Antwort von Jan:
The test shots (funny as filmed by Tripod) look rather from Aiptek.
Strong compression artifacts / blurring, CA, when the zoom is pumping at maximum brightness and wide Anglescheint them darker than the maximum zoom (should not, if ever, be reversed?).
And in daylight and very static settings - that is almost ideal conditions.
It is positive that I did the same with several players (VLC / Apple Quicktime) immediately on multiple computers have done, the videos, many of the lowest Cams is often not the case. Yes, you can see artifacts, and it is likely synonymous give a reason - why the test videos is not steered. The Cheap things are of Aiptek sometimes even worse.
Well, HD video content for 150 ¬ - there are simply customers, where shooting is not worth more - you have to accept it.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bespi:
ey! So come on! you've got to read that he was looking up to 200 euro * lach * willste him now that he is purely press instead of 180 euro now is to spend 1800? na du bist vielleicht ein toller Adviser. Let's look what he has to say * gg *
No.. But the size of the optical zoom (and the number of megapixels Photosmart function) there are no quality criteria.
The (former MSRP) price is very conditional.
Sure, there's synonymous Schnäppchen (HC5 for 499, - comes to mind since), but only because some times twice as much cost as it is now no better. optical zoom in a skikamera no quality criterion? have you never been on a ski slope, or do you want him then s.fernseher among the 200 drivers with a magnifying glass looking for?
Antwort von darg:
ey! So come on! you've got to read that he was looking up to 200 euro * lach * willste him now that he is purely press instead of 180 euro now is to spend 1800? na du bist vielleicht ein toller Adviser. Let's look what he has to say * gg *
No.. But the size of the optical zoom (and the number of megapixels Photosmart function) there are no quality criteria.
The (former MSRP) price is very conditional.
Sure, there's synonymous Schnäppchen (HC5 for 499, - comes to mind since), but only because some times twice as much cost as it is now no better.
optical zoom in a skikamera no quality criterion? have you never been on a ski slope, or do you want him then s.fernseher among the 200 drivers with a magnifying glass looking for? Optical zoom is not a general feature of a quality Cam, I think he meant, because the argument was heard this before.
What good is a great optical zoom, then later when it free-hand images is completely shake, and it will happen. Already 10x zoom is no more to keep quiet, let alone an object to follow! It plays but again the quality of the cam really does not matter :-) This could be synonymous with making a cell phone.
Antwort von Markus73:
optical zoom in a skikamera no quality criterion? He said: The claim
'High zoom is better than low-zoom "
is wrong, from the optical / physical reasons.
That is why there are such things as "40-fold Megazoom" especially for the beginners class devices.
Regards,
Markus
