Frage von MrLinky:
Hello,
I had put on me some time ago a Panasonic NV GS 50th The noise that occurs with this camera in bad light is schauderig. I have the camcorder, then brought back again.
When googling specifically relating to noise, I had to realize that even expensive cameras like a VX1000 or XM1 problems with it.
Only the x1ls or the VX2000 will be better this would fit the size of a shoulder camera is synonymous for me clearly too large. The only problem is the price. If it is the only way I must reach the price but first I would like to hear what you think.
My question now is how much money must be spent to no / little noise to have.
Are there any alternative to an expensive 1600 ¬ synonymous VX2000 Maybe in the analog section?
I read in one forum, something about the analog cameras with image noise was still a problem. If so do I have to ask why then digitally? When dubbing, although no losses occur, but what brings me to when the material is of s.verauscht beginning.
Since I am Newbee hope of getting you as many tips as possible so that I can soon start synonymous with the shooting.
Antwort von silentzero:
Like you said: digital, because there are no losses during transfer.
The noise is with the lens and chip business. The XM1 has 1 / 4 "chips, just as the XM2. The XM2 (I have not got) rushes less because it has a better lens.
I even once read that they should be better than the XL1?
The VX2000 is even better because it has 1 / 3 "chips.
Analog cameras have therefore no problems with it, because they have no chips. Instead, what it is I know.
Antwort von Markus:
I read in one forum, something about the analog cameras with image noise was still a problem. Before cameras CCD chips were, they had pipes for the conversion of light into electrical signals. These tubes moved during the shooting of light sources, however, after a tail, and the reserves were synonymous with poor lighting is not particularly good. Also there was a danger that einbrannte a Picture. The direct shooting into the sun was taboo. In return, such a tube camera has provided a very low-noise picture.
The next generation of analog video camera was mounted CCDs, which are smaller, lighter, and were less sensitive. Here the size of the CCD determines the quality of surface and subsequent signal processing, how strong is rustling Picture. A leader in the field of low noise is the 3-Chip Camera SonyVX2100, which is synonymous but not quite cheap.
Antwort von chris:
So analgoe (consumer) camcorders, I would grow no more to me, new well is no longer synonymous to get. Analog camcorders are synonymous CCD chips. A CCD digital ansich has to do with anything, it only converts optical into electrical signals. Only after an A / D converter is connected.
Noise if you have analog in any camera, no preference as expensive, no preference or digital.
Grundsärtzlich it so that it depends synonymous of the chip size. Because the smaller the chip, the smaller the size of a pixel. The smaller the size of a pixel, the more light-insensitive, it is and the more noise you did, but it is synonymous of from other factors, so you should test your reports read and compare.
But do not expect miracles of the cameras, in bad lighting is no great great pictures!
Chris
Antwort von GhostDog:
I had put on me some time ago a Panasonic NV GS 50th The noise that occurs with this camera in bad light is schauderig. I have the camcorder, then brought back again.
When googling specifically relating to noise, I had to realize that even expensive cameras like a VX1000 or XM1 problems with it.
Nope.
I can not say.
My VX1000 is not rushing.
Is perhaps the fact that I have turned down the gain in the menu
and dark night scenes in the program turn (prevents the gain).
If I am of the opinion it was not enough light there, I switch 'ne
Lamp, or turn on a street lamp. Has traditionally
work.
Maybe you do not need a camera, but rather a night vision device?
M.
Antwort von GhostDog:
naja ich filme often hip hop concerts (mostly very dark) with my xm 2, I can fesstellen a noise IF it is really dark and you yourself can not perform 100% contours.
Otherwise, absolutely TOP! No noise no nothing is black black light is light ..
I do not believe that you received such a dark (unless you're doing night film .. then are your entitlements s.The technology but high ;-)
Antwort von Markus:
My VX1000 is not rushing. Is it perhaps that I have turned down the gain in the menu and turn dark scenes in the night program (prevents) the gain. This is not just, perhaps, but surely. The signal amplification (gain), so not only reinforces the image signal, but synonymous, the disturbing noise. Thus it becomes visible.
Is like the stereo: I hear no noise, as long as I did not turn up the volume to 400 watts. ;-)
Antwort von Axel:
Mark is right: If disco, etc., then definitely VX2100 (the VX2000 synonymous still okay, I say, because it's my ,-).) However, if I know that I am at very low light conditions I take movies with a battery light. I always lend me of a colleague (of Sony, type designation password) with two rather ordinary halogen spotlights, the first only for portraits, the second can be applied to medium shot. The Battery is the same as for the camcorder (NP anything), and with the fat battery power the lamp burns for hours.
