Frage von konzi247:
Hi All,
'm new here and looking for a camcorder for shooting,
I am often
out untwerwegs movies and then my football activities
Then I add this purely on Youtube, so the camcorder should have the following things (if you wanted to add something, like):
- HD Resolution
- Micro reasonably good (ie, sound)
- Wobble will have little or image distortion) (stripes in the picture in movement
Rest is no preference, I need photos net;
Other settings are synonymous net so important
filmed during the day with plenty of light!
My suggestions are:
- Toshiba H20 (about 100-120 euros on Ebay)
- Aiptek Z700 (about 130-150 euros)
What do you say about the candidates? Does anyone know of these cams you or someone has tested the Cams times and can tell about it () pers impression;
Bring 720p @ 60fps (what), especially in football and other fast movements? Do you have other (better) suggestions that would fit my project?
Regards
Antwort von Gabriel_Natas:
Did the Aiptek Z500 Pros, which has synonymous 720p60.
The z700 is likely to have similar properties.
1. Without a tripod or a very steady hand: forget is expected (it's on all camcorders in this price category so). The z500 has no image stabilization, which should have only z700 digital one, when I was still right in the head. The digital in this price class ... not very Powerful.
2. Sound: The z500 has a Micro ... this is probably the most positive thing you can say about it: D man can understand if jmd says something, but that was already synonymous. Internal microphones are not even on more expensive camcorders, the true, the U200 can Euroklasse one lucky if they do not rush too much.
3. 720p60 already bringing what. But in the price range synonymous only with lots of light. Basically, it brings in the class just a lot of light in low light, noisy all.
If so depends, when and where you take up soccer.
eg Evening training with rather weak flood lights can forget you, with such a record camcorders.
During the day, no problem.
The problem rather synonymous with $ 200 you get nothing better.
Antwort von konzi247:
Thank you for your detailed answer, so:
1. I set the cam out, so tripod or something similar, so it should fit already, had been cheaper cams and has always worked well, a hd-cam imagewise would have a huge variety;
here is a video with old cam:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqn6kj1LMXc
net now have such high requirements;
I would be more qualitative and in particular desirable to a 16:9 image!
(previously I had always cut for youtube)
2. of the micropipette my previous cam (synonymous among other things, the canon 980 IS) has given me perfect - if it stays on the level, then I'm happy!
3. So during the day are 30fps (significantly) worse, to me it is important that the building runs smoothly, without falter, and to jerk.
movies during the day ONLY! not at night or in the twilight
someone with experience vllt made the toshiba h20?
regards
Antwort von Gabriel_Natas:
Are at 30 fps (fast) movements less than 60 fps.
30 fps can already be liquid (with the right settings, which is at 200 euros Cams can not make), 60fps ruckeln are always liquid and there is likely nothing more. However, if mostly only with quick movements.
So if you need the sound just so, as expected in the video, the Micro suffice.
Antwort von konzi247:
would you recommend dieaiptek or toshiba h20 `?
you have or synonymous with the other cams vllt experiences collected?
vllt or other proposals to fit up to 200 euro, which in my frame?
Antwort von joey23:
This is both scrap.
Antwort von konzi247:
why both are bad? can you justify this?
if the cams are bad, you have a better proposal in the low-class that will meet my requirements?
Thank you!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
The quality of your current video picture is still quite moderately well, why do you want to switch?
For 200 euros, even for $ 500 you do not stop get really good quality.
Then you should try any bid for a used HDV Cam.
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The soccer shooting even see some of the very fine but is not boring in the long run?
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von konzi247:
Yes, I have a 4:3 picture with my cam, cut must always
because some falls off the building, as optimized youtube to 16:9 ..
when I look at the videos of those cams look at it,
It is much better:
toshiba (1st vid jerky / chops lightly in firefox, why always synonymous)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOeYeNQSFs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwWZ4XyOIvs
aiptek:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPXrRmprIuA
more tiefenschärfe, just more details,
I will stop synonymous .. and a 16:9 image .. even my old Samsung NV24 (synonymous hd) was much better:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WUVPSBszhY
At that time only net so much done with the cam,
time it had sold halt - the halt will cost a lot more
is synonymous, but a camera that I need net ..
Antwort von B.DeKid:
The Toshiba still looks okay.
This is probably the first clip jerky s.der SUBSEQUENT kompremierung of the video.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von konzi247:
jerky video in internet explorer, the net ..
that surprises me ..
here is an experience of one (which is probably somewhat familiar):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN5q5ycDTDM
- Tend to synonymous toshiba, but I wanted to hear your opinion and stop vllt hear testimonials would be really nice!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
There are few users who stop here sollche cameras use /.
Naja but the Toshiba still looks really nice from the Präsos were synonymous, and well done.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von konzi247:
jap, I can understand except me is my hobby 300-500 euro net worth
I would make so ner with expensive cam videos out there ;-)
think there is already a few people who may have the same opinion and looking for such a cam ausschau, so I thought vllt here who walk around who had tested or synonymous, the cams:)
EDIT: I found another test at cnet,
There is praised the toshiba h20, think
I will get this from me, if nobody
something else dazuschreibt (erfarungsbericht) ..
http://www.cnet.de/tests/camcorder/41005261/testbericht/page/2/guenstiger+full_hd_camcorder+fuer+einsteiger+toshiba+camileo+h20.htm
regards
