Frage von Boles:
Hi,
I have the following problem, and although I want a new camcorder growth.
Canon HV 30 or SonyFx 1000E
Unfortunately, I can not distinguish between the two camcorders not decide.
I have two of camcorders test videos downloaded. Unfortunately, I must admit that the Canon HV 30 is not really worse than the picture makes 3000 euros Camera of Sony.
I have until now always thought that between 800 euros and Cam Cam a 3000 euro but visible differences in quality should be given in terms of video quality.
However, synonymous with the camcorder test slash.de actually shows the camcorder itself can be measured with each other.
And now my question:
I'm an amateur filmmaker, I turn my family at home under relatively low light conditions. That is just a ceiling light and curtains before the windows.
From and to make me a musician for a music video. "
So actually I take it there are several perspectives on and then cut the video together.
Have currently a Sanyo Hd 1010 and am totally satisfied so that the movements are so vague and so somehow unreal.
I can describe it badly.
Which Camera is now to recommend to me?
I am totally desperate!
Antwort von Axel:
And now my question:
I'm an amateur filmmaker, I turn my family at home under relatively low light conditions. That is just a ceiling light and curtains before the windows. Under these conditions, you could be the best and most expensive camera, which was ever built, and the result would not be better. Ugly ugly light is light, and to assess the (non-synonymous Camera, trained by perception and taste) is more important than an alcohol-based difference in the field Lowlight behavior. This will have to show how more or less noisy images are and how the colors fade. Irrelevant, if you as a cameraman from an aesthetic point of view of your picture
making. From and to make me a musician for a music video. "
So actually I take it there are several perspectives on and then cut the video together. ... and hopefully have options / capabilities, it is in the best or at least good light show.
I am totally desperate! Not yet. Off the cuff I would say the Canon small enough for you. For slightly higher claims rate, I tend to A1 or successor (not for automatic film, but as with XLR). The next higher level, synonymous priced, the SonyEX1 and EX3.
Antwort von gunman:
Hello,
Yes, this is not an easy decision! Both cameras are not really compare. The HV 30 is a very good amateur camera and the FX 1000 is a very good prosumer camera.
Here at Slashcam so you can compare your camcorder in the technical and structural differences compare well.
Even the size difference alone. Since you have already the first choice (leave-transport abnormality in public weight etc).
Then the price!
If these two criteria do not crucial, is the simple thing, then take the FX 1000, because she has a much better Lowlightverhalten, a 20 times zoom with a real wide (without adapter)-in contrast to HV 30 -.
What are the pure image quality synonymous, I believe that as good lighting conditions (but only if) the cameras are not so very different.
I have yet a Canon XM 1 and I'm synonymous with my thoughts on a new Cam (HDV, because I will post and archive of select-I know that when this issue here in the forum again differ, but these I have taken decision-).
My favorite would I get a cam in exactly this size take with 20 times optical zoom, but there are only as HDV FX 7 and speaks to their detriment the weak wide.
Ultimately, no one can set a Decision customers. Let's see what s.Stelle of the Canon XHA1 S comes.
Gunman
Antwort von Boles:
Thanks for the fast answers!
It's nice that someone is interested in my topic.
So now I tend more to the Canon HV30.
1. purchase cheaper.
2. not really a worse picture in good light conditions.
3. small and inconspicuous easily.
But what grounds it could now provide a SonyFx 1000E Canon A1 or to buy?
If it does not really better quality than a 800 euro Cam (for good light conditions).
Is it really only the manual setting possibilities, the camcorder is so expensive to make
Antwort von gunman:
HI,
I see you have your decision already taken almost ..
It is certainly not the only manual controls with a FX1000 or XHA1 more expensive than a HV 30 or other similar cameras produced.
I'm no expert here, but if you yourself once the Lens of the XHA1 and a HV 30 ansiehst, then you will agree with me that since the manufacturing price difference should be. I suppose once synonymous, that the number of cameras produced (and there are certainly more HV 30 as XHA 1verkauft) impact on the cost price have. Better Lowlightverhalten is synonymous not just with the lens to do etc. etc.
In this issue you'll get no satisfactory answer, because there are always arguments and counter arguments.
Synonymous You might ask: Is it really the speed of almost 300 km / h Prosch one ... I do not know what, compared to a VW GTI or whatever ... it is so expensive to make?
Well, now I begin s.zu not philosophize, because as I said the final decision will take DU alone.
Gunman
Antwort von Boles:
Yes, I've already made my purchase! Thanks you!
Will I buy HV 30 and then on the heart and kidney testing!
Thank you me so quickly and have good advice!
Antwort von Kristinus Helmut:
Since I use the HV 30 and the Canon XH A1 own and with the new Sony Already 2 days worked, I can only advise you, today I would buy me the Sony1000. There are not always very good lighting conditions, then the difference is very big! Similarly, the wide, one can immediately synonymous with the sharpness intervene. In the HV 30 is an fummelei with the settings. If you really want to work, then there is no other choice! For the Canon XH A1, I have a second male no sound because the microphone is so bad that every runterhängt, as the complicated setting until you really take the White Balance menu is set.
H. Kristinus
Antwort von tillbaer:
Ok, now I will still synonymous to my mustard :-)
If the money is no preference, I would be synonymous ne FX1000 afford, no doubt.
But the Wide Angle Can with Raynox 6600 Converter easily resolved. Then I took a total of 699, - + 119 - = 818, - ¬ paid. For the FX 1000 I get so close to 4 with Canon Hv30 wide.
The sharpness, I can wheel with the now well-adjusted. Only the display with its 211,000 pixels, there is more of an estimation of iron. The Focus Assist function is required but it is synonymous only a push of a button.
So for me, remains as the only difference that good Lowlightbild the FX1000. And since everyone has to stop to ask how often he will be filming in Lowlight. For me this is more rare. And so I could rest in money-Rode Videomic, various Filters, tripods and hand Foddis further accessories invest.
BUT: One feature I wanted so little twist. Because that I have the sharpness VERY tighten controls, and at any time control of the depth have - That is not with the HV30.
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von Axel:
BUT: One feature I wanted so little twist. Because that I have the sharpness VERY tighten controls, and at any time control of the depth have - That is not with the HV30. Yeah, go. Let the Raynox and the Foddis away, and accountable to `nem clever
external Micro (possibly even with
Beachtek adapter) this
A brief account:
Canon HV30 ~ 700 ¬
Letus mini ~ 800 ¬
Beachtek ~ 300 ¬
Rode Mic ~ 170 ¬
35mm F1.4 gebr. ~ 300 ¬
50mm F1.4 gebr. ~ 150 ¬
This would be for under 2500 ¬ absolutely not in any way amateurtaugliches equipment, but in any case, one with the man with a little practice, any FX 1000 can look very old.
Antwort von tillbaer:
Firstly, I agree with Axel. With the given set of him can the depth of focus and good control. However, it lacks in my opinion nor an external display with 800x480 pixels. Indeed, the sharpness, I would not really with the estimated iron-LCD and then still on the upside judge.
Antwort von Axel:
Firstly, I agree with Axel. With the given set of him can the depth of focus and good control. However, it lacks in my opinion nor an external display with 800x480 pixels. Indeed, the sharpness, I would not really with the estimated iron-LCD and then still on the upside judge. 1. The Picture with the Letus is no longer geflippt (not on the head, neither in the Display / Viewfinder even later on the tape).
2. One can, regardless of the focal lens of the KB, nor with the camcorder-Lens full zoom.
3. I do not know if the HV30 the sharpness Wizard "Peaking" is. The A1 with her Pipi display him, and he works synonymous with the adapter. It has emerged that this sharpness is as accurate as can be controlled with an external FullHD display.
However, you should
always manual focus setting, namely s.der KB Optics.
Antwort von gunman:
Yes, I've already made my purchase! Thanks you!
Will I buy HV 30 and then on the heart and kidney testing!
Thank you me so quickly and have good advice! HI,
That is the problem here in the forum. Once you have decided you then have SELF and become're certainly happy, always come after these Additional advice (nothing against the posters who think it only provides good) but now you come back into doubt and are not smarter than before.
I am every day in this forum for over 2 years, I know what I'm talking about.
Nothing for ungut.
Hunman
