Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Test: Canon HV30 - Missed Evolution of rudi - 21 Mar 2008 01:42:00 > Who in the consumer segment at the 1000 Euro HDV to keep the loyalty, has really little choice. Sony offers in this class only the HC7 / 9 and so far the Canon HV20, which is now of the HV30 is replaced. The technically almost identical HV20 was already very good with measurements shine, however, revealed weaknesses in the handling, Wide Angleund in the audio field.
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Antwort von prinzessin_mononoke:
I would ask because two that I synonymous After reviewing some forum entries are not yet sufficiently answered was:
1. in the test hv30 is in essence means that the drive noises "abgedämpft something" was. how much is "slightly" compared to the HV20. (according to the sensitivity of the test - half as strong, more or less ...)?
2. I own a HV20 with a rode VM1. basically, I find the work with the camera very well, because the synonymous ding is small, and that is precisely why the cultural field use. (irritated the interlocutor not so). in any event, my drive is pretty noisy on the nerves, because of course, synonymous shotgun is captured and times I wanted to ask if anyone has experience with the out-catcher of the noise in the post has me and maybe could pass. thank you very much
grüsse ml
Antwort von deepbluetube:
Brief Inquiry about HV10, which was mentioned here: Allegedly synonymous filming the HV10 already 25p if set accordingly. But how? How do I find a setting on my HV10 does not. Greetings and Thanks
Antwort von vidwalter:
Switch the Camera menu of "Auto program" to "Auto Aperture". Leave the menu again. The display on the top left you see now "TV" and a number next to it. The current shutter speed. This means do you now Joystik a 25stel second. This progressiev you're on the road. As far as I know.
Regards
Antwort von killerbees19:
However, changing these parameters, its possible range of values depending on the motive. Thus, for dark reasons only a range of about -11 to 0 exists. In schal be directed video light expands this range of values then as a ghost of up to +11 positive "units." After turning off the video light can be in the positive range of parameters linger, even before you could not adjust. Very funny, especially since the instructions on this topic synonymous no light in the matter wishes. This problem have all Canon cameras but I know for years ;-)
Nevertheless, I believe the Canon HV30 a few hours in my hands and am besgeistert. Previously I had the Canon MVX250i, the Canon HV30 is actually a successor model only with the new standards. Many mistake the MVX250i had been completely wiped out, this is one of the errors that the Focus or select options from the menu at its open display in a horizontal position or closed display not only could not, because they were obscured. The camera fits comfortably in your hand, all the buttons are easily accessible, the Battery was well hidden, as the accessory shoe. The extremely high quality notes are already on the high resolution display and of course with a HD Television. The Optical Image Stabilization is synonymous still a nice addition.
For this price is an absolute top class device that only devices that cost 3000 euros upwards can be surpassed ;-)
MfG
Christian, now goes out once and a little film:)
Antwort von papcom:
Hab ne themselves HV20 ... but synonymous ne GZ-HD7 ... and a propos manual synonymous ... if I'm not a JVC lovers ... Manual makes this camera the handling of her case better than the HV20/30.
Antwort von comix:
Brief Inquiry about HV10, which was mentioned here: Allegedly synonymous filming the HV10 already 25p if set accordingly. But how? How do I find a setting on my HV10 does not. Greetings and Thanks Hello,
HDV recording format on the Movie with stripes represent. 25PF - finished.
Antwort von Chinook:
Can someone tell me whether it is possible in camera mode, so when filming, at the HV 30 is the peaking green areas to show? I have read Bedinungsanleitung, I simply can not out war. When I look at the Focus Assist button, the picture is bigger, but it does not appear to be the green frame (Peaking function is activated, MF synonymous). For me, the green part only in the Still Image mode, and while auto-setting. Did my camera is defective?
Antwort von killerbees19:
Hello Chinook,
the green Fokusierbereiche only in photo mode, video mode are not available. Your camera has is no defect
zum Bild MfG Christian
Antwort von Chinook:
Hello Chinook,
the green Fokusierbereiche only in photo mode, video mode are not available. Your camera has is no defect zum Bild
MfG Christian Hello Christian,
Thank you for your reply. Apparently Canon has since probably a bug in the handling gebastelt, because if you're in the Assist menu function call, the Zebra - and the Peakingfunktion in the same submenu. The Zebra function then appears in the video mode and the Peakingfunktion in photo mode, not logical, especially since I primarily shoot camera to have purchased. Someone knows if Canon times on this issue or that nobody bothers me apart?
Antwort von killerbees19:
Hello Chinook,
So now I understand the not quite, because I can be with me in both Still image as synonymous in the video mode, the Zebra - and Peak feature (of course only one of two at once). So I totally look at your statement by
zum Bild MfG Christian
Antwort von Chinook:
Hello Chinook,
So now I understand the not quite, because I can be with me in both Still image as synonymous in the video mode, the Zebra - and Peak feature (of course only one of two at once). So I totally look at your statement by zum Bild
MfG Christian Hello Christian,
yes, I can activate the functions of course in both modes, but the focused areas, which have been discussed by the green frame are displayed, I can only see in the photo mode, ie when I switch on the upper right s.der Page camera on the green Auto-Icon in the center and switch among them of the cassette icon on the map icon and then move the photo shutter button halfway to trigger. This means in practice: Film motif (and setting P-icon, MF and cassette), then switch to photo mode, there will appear the green frame, but in Auto Mode, where the focus range eh independently undertaken. Hope you can still follow. I am not in any event. If the green part only in photo mode you can see in the car function would Peaking function does not make sense, would be superfluous. Perhaps I have overlooked one detail?
Chinook greetings
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... the focused areas, which have been discussed by the green frame ... If you are the green part only in photo mode you can see in the car function would Peaking function does not make sense, would be superfluous ... I had no hand in the HV30, so I may be mistaken, but it could be that you are two different things into a pot throw? "Green Frame" sounds to me just after the identification of the selected measuring autofocus for still images (photo cameras so often behave similarly). Peaking on the other hand, should not by a fixed framework, but the highlight of the edges of a scene felt - as always synonymous with the HV30 might happen.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von killerbees19:
Bernd Exactly, you did it correctly. The green areas are only for measuring, which have no other meaning ...
MfG Christian
Antwort von Chinook:
Bernd Exactly, you did it correctly. The green areas are only for measuring, which have no other meaning ...
MfG Christian Hi folks,
and first thank you for your contributions. I have the Peaking function in SonyHDR seen FX7. Here you can see yellow hems in the manual by sharp areas. Since I am in HV 30 no difference between with / without Peaking function could recognize, I thought maybe the green under a simplified form of the above function Since this is after your statement is not the case, I have searched in other forums . Obviously it is not just me so synonymous if the problem s.der almost identical HV 20 is described:
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To make up for the small form factor of the dial, the HV30 has a great Focus Assist feature, activated by a button on the LCD panel. When engaged, the Focus Assist instantly zoom in to about 2x so you can better see the subject. At the same time, it activates s.Peaking tool which severely increases the sharpening. This draws out the edges of objects much better
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I would really like to see a screenshot of focus assist in action, with a callout pointing to the enhanced edge of s.object. I played with the HV20 several times on I could not see PEAK working. Canon should steal the JVC color contouring-over-black-focus objects assistlogin idea. As expressed in the now Peaking HV 30?
Antwort von Musashi:
Hello Chinook,
I have the same problem with the Peaking function had. I could no long synonymous sharp asked hems recognize. They exist but (occasionally), I can hems but only for a few (mostly dark) recognize objects. In addition, the hem synonymous still very white and very thin, so that he, depending on the background, is very difficult as Peaking-hem to recognize. In Slashcam test the Canon HV20 is the Peaking function synonymous gone bad.
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/ Canon HV20.html
I have the Peaking function in favor of the zebra function issued and manual focus with the help of the Focus Assist button on the LCD display.
Antwort von domain:
A fairly good, but not synonymous perfect solution for example, the JVC GZ-HD40 as Fokussierhilfe realized: press the corresponding button on the display B / W mode and the Peakingfunktion will have its own color (red for me) realized.
The error is that areas of strong contrasts in general color of this display, synonymous if they are blurred. Only when fine red structures (seams) on the object itself scharfzustellenden visible, it is really sharp set.
This system would be really good if only the very thin seams as apparently in the HC30, but then in Color on a B / W background would
Antwort von Chinook:
A fairly good, but not synonymous perfect solution for example, the JVC GZ-HD40 as Fokussierhilfe realized: press the corresponding button on the display B / W mode and the Peakingfunktion will have its own color (red for me) realized.
The error is that areas of strong contrasts in general color of this display, synonymous if they are blurred. Only when fine red structures (seams) on the object itself scharfzustellenden visible, it is really sharp set.
This system would be really good if only the very thin seams as apparently in the HC30, but then in Color on a B / W background would Hi Musashi, domain,
Thanks again for the contributions. I have at least an explanation, if not synonymous solution of the problem. At least the zebra function works. Weak performance of Canon, synonymous if the HV 30, her picture is captivating.
Chinook greetings
Antwort von domain:
A commonly used method for sharpening points in critical situations is the selective focus of the object in the telephoto range with subsequent Rückzoomen in the normal or wide-angle range, whereby the sharpening body Leave the area synonymous with telephoto autofocus very good work.
Thereafter, however, the Autofukus very quickly and easily be turned off (do not know how to work with the HC30) and secondly you ever have to debug whether the Rückzoomen the sharpness of the object really synonymous maintained.
This is today's zoom lenses with absolutely no pattern is more obvious and has already too many problems from lack of knowledge about today with electronical Consumercamcordern usual servo-controlled movement of the elements in the zoom lens correction resulted.
Antwort von Chinook:
A commonly used method for sharpening points in critical situations is the selective focus of the object in the telephoto range with subsequent Rückzoomen in the normal or wide-angle range, whereby the sharpening body Leave the area synonymous with telephoto autofocus very good work.
Thereafter, however, the Autofukus very quickly and easily be turned off (do not know how to work with the HC30) and secondly you ever have to debug whether the Rückzoomen the sharpness of the object really synonymous maintained.
This is today's zoom lenses with absolutely no pattern is more obvious and has already too many problems from lack of knowledge about today with electronical Consumercamcordern usual servo-controlled movement of the elements in the zoom lens correction resulted. Hello domain
will try your tip. If this works for me, then the solution is expected (if not synonymous of the Canon) to be.
PS: Thanks again s.alle which I replied!
Many greetings
Chinook Jargon
