Frage von marko1974:
Hello!
I have the *** full Schn. Had my parents with my cam on holiday where. That was a SonyDCR PC120E. DV Cam.
Normally, it has always served us well and the picture was synonymous echt super sharp - even down as expected mpg.
I sat here last week before the 2 hours to edit video footage and am the result of more than disappointed. Not because I thought that we all no longer have Television 4:3, but 16:9. Although not a HDTV but what solls.
I have before me and set my Magix hab nen schönen Film zusammengestellt. Unfortunately saw on the television behind is no longer so great. It may be that it was s.der compression - I do not know. In any case, the only 4:3 Cam yes ... and it looks to 16:9 from bad times correctly.
... I will stop with a new cam.
I really Geliebäugelt with the Canon HF10 - but without including HDTV Television .... maybe but again.
Then I saw that already synonymous ne HV30 would stretch.
It is actually more concerned with razor sharp picture for holiday photographs. The best way to burn to DVD and watch 16:9.
Sure ... HD is unbeatable.
1. Question: Would it be possible of the HF10 recorded material on a normal DVD to burn. It is clear, then no HDTV .... but I can record HDTV and then down reckon? - If the result is better than normal DV?
2. Question: HV30 or HF10?
Antwort von Zizi:
HV30! had both already ..
my HF10 has Ebay at the moment because I think in the whole AVCHD kram totally annoying!
The picture quality is sharp, at least in the HF10 not be topped not even of the new 7000 ¬ SonyCam!
HV30 in the overall picture is hardly impressive worse .. may be synonymous next HDV, DV Pal 4:3 and 16:9! Incidentally, the material can convert and without "gehäule" cut!
I was already 6 AVCHD cams and I can not really friends .. sorry!
the industry has it after 2 years of intensive development still does not shop the codec or at least the software so as to forge the man with the material sense can work!
and so I do not umbedingt the missing hardware .. Quad CPUs cost eh nix mehr!
How long should we wait?
Antwort von marko1974:
Nice to hear is that they can be synonymous PAL 16:9. This may be probably the HF 10 are not. Sure I'll play with the idea of me NEN Full HD LCD to buy, but not yet. Had something which can be both. But it looks so well, could become the HF 10 "only" AVCHD.
Can I use with the HV 30 for a higher Resolutionaufnehmen, but then say I want it first only in DV 16:9 and the rest is done later on?
Antwort von Zizi:
Sure .. thou shalt synonymous!
With an editing program should be no problems!
Just the material in Mpeg2 HDV DV convert ..
The HF10 AVCHD is only in 1920 or 1440 no longer!
So for me, the HV30 is simply the better package and it's still a real camcorder .. The HF10 is in my hands more of a toy with augezeichneter sharpness.
Unfortunately, the tape is still the better alternative for next processing!
I hope not last long ..
Antwort von Sektionschef:
Can I use with the HV 30 for a higher Resolutionaufnehmen, but then say I want it first only in DV 16:9 and the rest is done later on? Only HDV camcorders offer the option to record HD onto tape and then later the video in either HD or SD output (internal downconverting). AVCHD can not.
mfg
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Antwort von marko1974:
Then it should probably be .... I think that doing the right
Antwort von Sektionschef:
I would be synonymous for the HV30 decide.
Sign up once again and let hear, like me you're happy.
mfg
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Antwort von jazzy_d:
"Can I use with the HV 30 for a higher Resolutionaufnehmen, but then say I want it first only in DV 16:9 and the rest is done later on?"
Then you need to cut again, but in HD, or the Schnittproggi in any way the HDV material unterjubeln. But rather schwiedrig. If you consistently cut in HDV, you can quite comfortably s.Schluss decide whether in HD or SD to be exported.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Of course, one can in a DV 16:9 HDV Project synonymous Material Loading ...
Antwort von jazzy_d:
Besides damaging the Cam you twice, once in SD and a second time is captured in HDV.
Antwort von marko1974:
Nope ... I actually wanted to make movies in HDV and then at me ne standard DVD burn. And if I do anything with HD .... the tape again raussuchen or in the editing program will halt ne HD DVD or Blue-ray take.
If they do, right?
Antwort von jazzy_d:
Geht.
I do so:
- Film, capture and edit in HDV
- 1x as widescreen progressive video DVD Export
- 1x as WMV9 (or WMV-HD) 1280x720 50p 10Mbit / s on my Popcornhour Export
Because of everything from Poppi popligen Internet 1920x1080p video to play, try something I always synonymous around. Since my Gedo goes to the expensive yet sometimes immature blue discs sA over. The cut-Project and the source data is stored, so I can immediately synonymous in all other export if necessary.
Antwort von Zizi:
What is a POPPI?
So I cut off my HD videoa all on a multi plattte and playing them out of there on the TV from FullHD .. Blue-ray is shit and expensive ... ,-P
Hopefully, the Pleite ..
Antwort von jazzy_d:
The POPPI is the Popcornhour. A hard-Multimedia Player. From my point of view is still the best and cheapest.
Antwort von marko1974:
Well .... I've bought it now. I am really excited of the picture in daylight, but I'm from the low-light area rather disappointed. This was my Cam better solved.
The picture itself is about NEN LCD HDTV via HDMI cable totally restless and if only Cam synonymous moves a bit you realize that they have a few modes with the trigger is runtergegangen.
Pans are synonymous totally slow. Have I gone wrong? Other Cams solve synonymous but certainly not better, right? Where sin, the owner of the AGM-30 .... how did you solve this?
Antwort von Zizi:
Well Lowlight is generally the weakness of the small HD cams!
Since you shutter and aperture settings, etc. can not you probably will have no other choice than to remain as good as possible auszuleuchten or small LED lamp to use ;-)!
Obs why is another question .. I was in any case with None HD Cam until now Lowlight satisfied, not even with my XH A1!
But you can try out the 25p mode of the marginal effect usually better (longer exposure times) or use the movie mode of the Camera Picture slightly unschärft but represents noise!
There is so much worse than the HV30 Cams in Lowlight!
(See individual Panasonic and Sony, JVC models) if you is a comforting ;-)!
Antwort von marko1974:
well not really :-) I was about to return .... but since I probably nix war better, eh?
Antwort von goffie:
Well Lowlight is generally the weakness of the small HD cams!
Since you shutter and aperture settings, etc. can not you probably will have no other choice than to remain as good as possible auszuleuchten or small LED light to use ;-)!
Obs why is another question .. I was in any case with None HD Cam until now Lowlight satisfied, not even with my XH A1!
But you can try out the 25p mode of the marginal effect usually better (longer exposure times) or use the movie mode of the Camera Picture slightly unschärft but represents noise!
There is so much worse than the HV30 Cams in Lowlight!
(See individual Panasonic and Sony, JVC models) if you is a comforting ;-)! Hello, I use the manual setting for low light shots. The automatic option is not suitable.
With 25 P-mode or combined mode + Movies 25P mode.
One can evaluate the results online whether grieseln is gone or not. In addition, you can still picture the effect of setting custom menu (for fine tuning). This will be very good results. In any case, is much better than DV camcorder (eg. Panasonic GS-250).
In Lowlight again, however the manual white balance via presets or totally manual settings. No fear, is really easy. When recording with movie mode, you should not swing too fast, because then the picture jerky.
Just try the above settings and you'll find that the HV-30 is one of the best camcorder on the market. Gruss
Goffi
Antwort von Zizi:
Hello,
I use the manual setting for low light shots. The automatic option is not suitable.
With 25 P-mode or combined mode + Movies 25P mode.
One can evaluate the results online whether grieseln is gone or not. In addition, you can still picture the effect of setting custom menu (for fine tuning). This will be very good results. In any case, is much better than DV camcorder (eg. Panasonic GS-250).
In Lowlight again, however the manual white balance via presets or totally manual settings. No fear, is really easy. When recording with movie mode, you should not swing too fast, because then the picture jerky.
Just try the above settings and you'll find that the HV-30 is one of the best camcorder on the market.
Gruss
Goffi Yes because you have in large part right!
Antwort von deti:
Even at the risk that I am doing pretty unpopular, I would have to HF-100 (approx 600 ¬) rates. Why? The camera is cheap and has an unbeatable picture quality. At the HF-10 built-in flash memory is not worth his money, because nowadays a 16GByte SDHC card for about ¬ 25 is to receive. Interestingly, we have the HG-20, because they are around 700 ¬ a 60Gbyte hard drive and it has to 25MBit / s record, resulting in a higher detail resolution in fast motion carries.
Obviously something is AVCHD currently schmerzbehaftet when editing, because a lot of computing power especially when importing required. However, more recently have all the latest software packages native AVCHD support. I suppose that, given the coding medium in the consumer area all previous format will be replaced by AVCHD.
On the other, the HDV format are usually not fast on a calculator dub: the linear tape recording the data with approximately 3.2MByte / s in real time on the PC. Of course, the mechanical wear and the vibration sensitivity with tape drives added.
With AVCHD camcorders are the recorded data in a file already exists, with the approximately 15-20Mbyte / s on the PC can be transferred. In the versions without the hard drive camcorders are pretty much indestructible - we do so much outdoor documentation on mountain bikes, snowboarding and when climbing. Apart from a few quirks s.Gehäuse is s.der HF-100 still not broken.
Thus, one could therefore the computation time required for the import of AVCHD files into the editing software with the longer transfer time when the HDV format offset.
The aforementioned Canon cameras do not differ significantly in the Optics and only a little bit in the CMOS sensor:
HF10/100, HG20: 3.3 MPixel to 1 / 3, 2 "
HV30: 2,96 MPixel to 1 / 2, 7 "
Thus, one could suspect that the HV30 in low light situations, a little less noisy, what happened to me so far in practice has not noticed - have rather the assumption that the sensor or of an older generation chip.
... and one more thing: The SonyDCR PC120E may very well be in 16:9 format and even in anamorphic 720x576 (!). Just in the menu "CAMERA SET" the point "16:9 WIDE" to "ON" set.
Antwort von Zizi:
That may vote for the most part, BUT:
The HF100 offers many professional features not!
Besides the handling of missing and accessories.
Also good for cutting HDV is still the better choice!
And since my IHC Calculator now not so strong but just the whole workflow of DV by so pretty widespread!
Personally, I steh drauf synonymous and love the sound of a closing ends
miniDV drive .. That is simply still "shooting"!
But each has its .. Of course it has disadvantages synonymous .. But exactly where are the benefits!
For me it is still a HV20-30 is the best choice below 1500 ¬!
AVCHD is still the same garbage than in his Realease!
Although the image quality in sharpness and compression a bit ahead, it is still synonymous and 2008, a format for the filmmakers just want to keep it for 2 and cutting Hold priority!
I own HF10 and XH A1 and find the whole effort for converting, capturing, cutting, archiving is still time as the tape will remain so as long as I do not
major recommendations to the AVCHD toy!
