Frage von naich:
Hello Forum!
I got the last few weeks some HD Cams accurately viewed now and is nearing a decision.
After several reports here and in other forums and I after some Cams times in the hand was, I'm at above Cams stuck.
So, now my question s.die professionals, what would you take and why?
The Canon I have had in his hand. Except for the tailgate wackeliche something she has actually made a good impression. Also, the manual focus - synonymous when it is something bad - I found quite useful.
The Sonykonnte I have not befummeln, which I unfortunately have no dealer can find. Why not? The Canon can be found everywhere ...
Would appreciation for your advice and purchase truly grateful!
Greetings ...
Steffen
Antwort von domain:
Professionals will teach you not (risky) Council, because it is in itself no purchase needed.
You can only answer a variety of people are waiting, each of which is always of their own camera and they are thrilled you can recommend.
There is also no preference what you take, with all marketable you will be satisfied.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... what would you take and why? ... With the search you'll find lots of answers to those already here so often asked and answered question.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
There is also no preference what you take, with all marketable you will be satisfied. That's true ja überhaupt nicht!
Antwort von domain:
The only question is whether the Panasonic HDC-SD100, which thou hast so verissen while Camera of the year here has become, is very marketable.
Antwort von ArnAuge:
Hello naich,
I was the last weeks before the same issue, have tested both your camcorder and me - after I until now only had Sony devices - for the Canon decided. This is of course a matter of taste synonymous and it is always very individual, what factors are important to you. Here are the points that for me the deciding zugunstren the HV30 brought:
1. The drive of the lunatic SonyHC9 when stereo with the built-Microphone works stört!
2. The Image Stabilization and Auto Focus synonymous with the HV30 works sensationally well while he was in the HC9 was very nervous.
3. Sonyhat according to my information, its very good (if expensive synonymous) Factory Service simply closed and privatized. (As with the Canon service is running, I weißß but not synonymous)
Here are manslaughter argument against the HV30, which for a friend to the rash was HC9: Only SonyHC9 has a LANC port (for UW-housing, etc.)
Greetings!
Arno
Antwort von shipoffools:
...
1. The drive of the lunatic SonyHC9 when stereo with the built-Microphone works stört!
... About the drive noise when HC9 can I say nothing, because I use this camcorder does not have held in my hands, but who, because of the noise
for the drive decides HV30 films either constantly schal be contaminated with attenuation, which is a very muffled sound effect, or has something s.den ears. The drive of the HV30 produces pretty much the loudest "buzz", the camcorders I have ever experienced. Actually, this is already unacceptable. With an external Micro is the damage but then limit. This compensates the image quality of the HV30, however, even more so! But this has been enough written. I would, however, the HV30, despite the "I can not hear anything" buy again.
Steffen cameras should be better both personally and then tested individually to determine its own needs.
Antwort von naich:
Hello
Danke erstmal! This is quite something.
I've obviously used the search function, however, had no current real contribution to these two cams found. Among the various cams I've already found plenty.
Nevertheless, I am still uncertain.
I will the next few days so I still look at the shops herumtreiben (unfortunately did not know who has such a Cam) and the Sony Search.
The statement, which is ultimately no preference is to buy what I can not quite understand. Then yes, there would be no reason for synonymous tests and this forum?
Ok, another question:
When I took the Canon in the hands of hate, I have noticed that the cargo has gewackelt quite strong. Is this normal? It was a projectionist in MM can be so synonymous that since quite a lot of people that had rumgezerrt?
Thank you ...
Greetings ...
Steffen
Antwort von shipoffools:
... Ok, another question:
When I took the Canon in the hands of hate, I have noticed that the cargo has gewackelt quite strong. Is this normal? It was a projectionist in MM can be so synonymous that since quite a lot of people that had rumgezerrt?
If you are with "cargo" the cassette compartment cover meinst: Yes, the wobbles - alas! The processing of the HV30-housing is not really a purchase criterion, which speaks for the device.
Antwort von ArnAuge:
@ Naich
If the hatch is open, it has naturally little game - it is absolutely closed firmly.
Yet what the drive noise: Of course the Canon is synonymous not just quietly, the unpleasant Sirren lands but not on the tape, because Canon here in contrast to the predecessor model, the frequency of 10,000 Hz mercilessly pruned (for pictures with the integrated micro). This restriction is, for many tasks but reportage but no problem. For high-quality music recordings, but I would use an external Micro.
Otherwise, I am - of the cumbersome manual exposure control via the menu apart - yet completely happy with the thing.
Antwort von shipoffools:
If the hatch is open, it has naturally little game - it is absolutely closed firmly.
Yet what the drive noise: Of course the Canon is synonymous not just quietly, the unpleasant Sirren lands but not on the tape, because Canon here in contrast to the predecessor model, the frequency of 10,000 Hz mercilessly pruned (for pictures with the integrated micro). ... So since you seem a HV30-specific model
The "Luke" wobbles closed considerably and her out, and the fresh s.Werk been synonymous. I have read several times already and I can report from personal experience. Possible way, yes, the Canon is now at Neuauslieferungen made, which I can not quite imagine.
What the drive noise, it lands in undamped mode (because the attenuation can be found in the menu to manual or off) the drive sound very well on the tape, and so loud as I hardly of any other camcorder know, of my 20 years SonyVideo8 old camcorder apart. But then it was already happy if the thing for private "stories" about moving images with sound and one has the result s.seinem old could watch television.
And only undamped, the sound of the HV30 so many highs that it is quite natural sounds, but through the "Sirren again is avoided.
Antwort von ArnAuge:
@ Shipoffools
So, the subjective Sonydeutlich more gesirrt.
The cassette compartment door is not locked s.absoluten endpoint, ie, the closed cassette compartment is a tight press millimeter camera direction and then spring back. That if I had not now as a "wobbling" means. But compared with my old SonyTRV30 or even the VX1000 is the HV30 course - as usual today, unfortunately, generally - a Plastk-crates.
Can be justified only by all that we hold in relation to the price-performance ratio has an image that many years ago still has cost tens of thousands.
Greetings!
Arno
Antwort von naich:
Hello
That sounds to me now not so great ...
I wanted to have proper recordings synonymous with hinbekommen hönnen.
The two tape machines, I came because the HV30 for me so far has s.schönsten keep ... Furthermore, I only a relatively slow laptop with modest graphics card. And actually written anywhere, which is the AVCHD format, the record SpeicherkartenCams very difficult to handle. That is why I am now fixated on HDV.
When I do so but so many other problems to capture, perhaps it would be almost better but, once with the memory card Cams to address?
However, my handling of the HV30 promised her more than as the HF100.
If the cargo - yes I mean the Kassetenfachabdeckung - synonymous in a closed state always wobbles, one can indeed synonymous assume the Cam in no instance is Dustproof! That would be a KO criterion. Because if dust and dirt in the mechanism may be late, is the cam for me unusable.
But, as already written, I will have all the times in Natura's Profile!
Greetings ...
Antwort von tillbaer:
Hi,
So a truly dustproof Cam now I knew immediately not. Certainly, the concept here in the memory advantage. But when it gets dusty, you can somewhat synonymous in the Optics of Cam advised - it is synonymous the HF100 s.Ende. But I use the way, a ewamarine rain.
Subjective and objective way, processing can be far apart, but of course I trust the Vx2100 more than an HV30. As always synonymous - whether HF100 or HV30 - both are good in my opinion, and the sound I'd always with an external Micro do already because of the wind noise.
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von naich:
Hello
Ok, now I have the whole day with them which employs a lot of reports and read.
Currently, I would rather tend to the HV30. However, I still have to find out if they possibly vulnerable to dust and dirt is. In another forum I read that was not the case. Vorrstellen I could jdoch me know.
Oh yes, it's now after Christmas in the HC9e price has fallen. On the sony website it now stands with 749, - Euros MSRP. I could swear the almost before Christmas 1000, - has cost?
Because of the sensitivity of the lens against dirt, I always wanted a neutral IR filter used.
I also wanted me to be a synonymous of WW Cam and a telephoto growth.
For recordings I wanted to anyway synonymous yet to buy a micro (will slow quite a lot of equipment that you need because ...)
Between mid-January and the end I went up. I need the Cam namely s.Anfang Feb.! So as long as I will still work, but then there will be serious!
Greetings ...
Antwort von Eisbär:
Yes it is holding with the consumer devices. As you create as many accessories, so that you really like a class you can buy have been higher and with less consequential anymore.
I apologize for the HC9 decided, mainly because I have a LANC port needed and because it is not such a bad processed plastic as the bomber is HV20/30.
And dust accumulation will probably never be avoided. Because you can do whatever you want, and then that is synonymous no preference of what your camcorder is the Manufacturer. At least there is for Sony, but synonymous appropriate sports or protective housing. So what I have not seen for Canon, except for Digiknipsen.
Since not much about the HC9 is reported, I do believe that it is a good device, or that almost no one here with a HC9 Slashcam has.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
HC9e ... ... fallen in price on the sony website it now stands with 749, - Euro MSRP ... At least sony.de is at the moment with HC9E Euro 1099 non-binding Preisempfehlung specified. The street price is of course much anything.
Antwort von naich:
HC9e ... ... fallen in price on the sony website it now stands with 749, - Euro MSRP ...
At least sony.de is at the moment with HC9E Euro 1099 non-binding Preisempfehlung specified. The street price is of course much anything. Hello
No, this is what I do not. I can understand the Cam on the Sony site directly for 749, - Order. That is below the street price of around 800, - Euro.
Here:
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Greetings ...
