Frage von Butzow:
Hi, I wanted to early next year with a new camcorder
growth and I had actually already on the Canon xlh1a down.
Now I'm surfing recently synonymous nor the SonyHVR-Z7E encountered.
For me, now the question of which camera is better and which the Manufacturer has better support.
Thanks in advance
Antwort von Jan Myck:
Mir gehts just interested me since a few days for the intensive Z7 did yesterday and tried everything possible rauszukriegen.
From Handahbung ago I would have much preferred a Canon XLH1,
schultergestützte freehand shots for me with my old XL1 excellent succeed (although much easier is synonymous).
Unfortunately, the XLH1 for me for three reasons are not eligible.
1. She has no real manual Focus Lens with attack
and now I see it as a prerequisite
for professional films. (After 10 years VX1000/XL1)
2. The Viewfinder is completely overwhelmed for HD - you can not Make Up.
3. The light should not be as good as the Z7
The Z7 seems the only Henkelcam with a manual lens to be.
Moreover, they are free to the CF card recorder, which I is essential for important shots because of the fatal impact (multiple images) of any dropouts in HDV look.
The Lowlightfähigkeiten should not s.die EX1 heranreichen but its close. The Viewfinder is the sharpest in this class.
Another participant reported that the DV recording mode as well as a real recording with DV PD150 should be. Whether this is true all I do not know. If the upper true, this camera for me almost genial.
Is anyone here the Z7 already in use, he can confirm that?
Bin all the instructions for what Z7 and Canon XLH1 concerns grateful.
Gruß,
Jan
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
It surprises me greatly that the Canon-entrenched defenders here are so silent.
I myself can Canon synonymous to say nothing, but the positive statements on the HVR-Z7 fully confirm. I'm with the Camera and its possibilities fully satisfied.
Greeting
KDS
Antwort von Jan Myck:
Thanks for the message KDV. That sounds reassuring. Would you say that the synonymous Dv mode is useful, like "real" computer, or is there here but drawbacks.
For me, this question would be very important, because I did not have HDV Schnittaplikation me and it just simply a reasonable camera with manual Optics goes.
In an American trial was told that the Z7 produces color bleeding s.Objektkanten. Others complain that she works with Kantenaufsteilung. Did you mean experience?
Greeting
Jan
Antwort von domain:
Lenses and even zoom lenses without any CA on the periphery are at a reasonable cost is not feasible. This works only with fixed focal lengths and again just as synonymous with a specific focus or in a fairly narrow focus area. Can one for example for high-quality optical flatbed scanners observe what actually up to the outside edge which no CA.
But there are now electronic, as in the EX1 / 3, etc. to these color bleeding "herauszurechnen".
Moreover, an electronic Kantenaufsteilung in the digital field mandatory nearly everywhere, the question is how strong she is and whether it is adjustable. As a rule, but they still synonymous with zero sharpening, but hold little and only in the minus range, it could be totally off.
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
Hi Jan,
Kantenaufsteilung which is adjustable and in greater attitude synonymous with white edges are not unpleasant. I myself have to stand +2.
The CA, as already mentioned, there, but (in most cases) are not synonymous unpleasant. As in some tests was to read, these CA in the Canon still stronger.
For DV mode, I can tell you nothing, because I only in HDV mode. As I recently read in a magazine, the Down Conversion sharp images. One can indeed HDV recording in DV mode via firewire output and adjust it that the edges are cut off. Then you have a normal 4:3 picture in DV.
A real advantage is the compact flash recorder, with you with 32 GB cards 145 minutes s.Stück can absorb.
Greeting
KDS
Antwort von weitwinkel:
@ Butzow:
EX3 why not?
gruß cj
Antwort von Jan Myck:
If the EX3 a tape drive for HDV and had normal memory use would be (and if you have 2500, - EUR cheaper), I would buy them immediately.
I only hope that this tactic does not Sonywith comes next.
With the S & S cards, it is similar with the ink cartridges for printers. Dependence of one company I do not with.
Other opinions welcome.
gruß,
Jan
Antwort von Butzow:
@ Butzow:
EX3 why not?
Wide Hi,
I can only endorse Jan, the price difference makes me wonder
the z7 prefer.
To Jan again: Why you need a
Lens sharpness with attack and where is the advantage over
a ring, which can rotate more?
Antwort von weitwinkel:
but you would not necessarily be on the expensive sxs cards
depends have you noticed?
s. http://forum.slashcam.de/kensington-7x1-media-reader-funktioniert-with-sony-ex1-ex3--vt64920.html?highlight=kensington + sxs
and for a maximum of 35MB / s are not synonymous tapes ...
gruß cj
Antwort von Butzow:
That is so funny, if Sony can laugh Moreover synonymous?
But then, despite the favorable media is still too great a price difference to me of the targeted model.
Has anyone of you actually experience with the Sony service or has read something about him?
What looked at the spare parts from, where are the Manufacturer longer available?
Have a lot of fear in modellgebundendes Equipment (Lenses, for example) to invest, which will no longer be used.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... for a maximum of 35MB / s are not synonymous tapes ... DVC PRO HD with approximately triple the data rate - 100mb / s - may be synonymous recorded on tape: Because Sonydie had 35MB / s is unlikely to cause problems if it is wanted.
Antwort von Jan Myck:
Hello Butzow,
You asked: Why stop with Manual Lens?
When shooting a documentary where a recording is unrepeatable, it would be a major fatal shots by pumping sharpness to bungle, as with the Auto Focus / Push can happen when there is too little light.
Typical example: A speaker s.Pult. No problem: push-button-press and he is sharp.
All at once leaves the desk and runs around on stage.
You want him to continue in the big picture and then have it but the 3m and 2m back before us, he is already blurred. Du film, because the absence of light at open aperture and searched from a distance no depth.
And already this recording, you can then away.
With a classic reflex-Optics synonymous or a 16mm camera is the less of a problem because you s.Schärfenring exactly nachfocusieren can. Unfortunately this does not work with the pseudo-manual function of the electronic, computer-controlled servo-Optics.
You can still turn off, but there is no reference point to which you can come back. (So it is in any event in XL1 and VX1000 and I think for most modern things is the same).
It is less about the end stop, rather than the precise
analogue transmission of your rotary motion to the lens system. Otherwise you do not know where you are.
The tracking control of the sharpness of moving objects or specific focus shift is part of the standard craft of professionals (not I) and without manual Optics is simply not possible.
Therefore, the major Schultercams yes synonymous exclusively manual optics.
Of course, there are just countless situations where it is very loose with the push-button goes. But not always. One must know what they filmed and how serious the damage is a possible vermasselten Top sharpness by recording Pumps thanks AutoFocus takes.
Gruß,
jan
Antwort von snakenic:
... for a maximum of 35MB / s are not synonymous tapes ...
DVC PRO HD with approximately triple the data rate - 100mb / s - may be synonymous recorded on tape: Because Sonydie had 35MB / s is unlikely to cause problems if it is wanted. The times I would be interested in where DVC PRO HD tape at 100mb / s recording. With the Panasonic HPX 201 and the entire shoulder mounted camcorder's done only on P2 memory cards.
Antwort von videotomi:
Hello,
yep, I am satisfied the only resident with a XLH1-A!
I occasionally habs ever written ... synonymous in other forums:
With the optional Doppelleadegerät CH100 thick and 2 Batteries is the beautiful part austarier on the shoulder - this since the latest "Micro SchoulderMount .... almost looks like Tripod filmed by ;-)
With the picture I am with the appropriate presets (40 different) which provides and that it "only HD (V) is to bother me in any way.
And the workflow - Coming of the XL1S - is the first cream. Everything s.seinem place and virtually blind to find without the need to be Menue!
The Sonykenne closer .... I do not synonymous honestly do not know whether to compare the can / should be. Is synonymous of the best (according to what one reads and hears so). I think they both need ann times in your hands and then synonymous stomach can decide ...
For the Canon said after the price of just under 4000 ¬ (VAT Cashback and down)
All the best
Tomi
Antwort von Zizi:
The Picture Sonyhat better impression!
And anyway, I think Canon HDV cams in the propulsion something!
No major changes ...
But s.besten you take them both times in the hand then
solves the question of self-eh! ;-)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... I would be interested in times where DVC PRO HD tape at 100mb / s recording. With the Panasonic HPX 201 and the entire shoulder mounted camcorder's done only on the P2 ... When HVX200/201 and the P2-Schultercams true, but there was indeed a life synonymous before P2 ;-) The AJ-HDX900 - a full-shoulder camcorder - or synonymous to the classic Varicam DVC PRO HD actually on tape. The trick to the data to be able to process the tape just runs faster. So rarely are high data rates on tape the way, do not, because the synonymous SD Digibeta format is recorded on cassettes.
Antwort von Jan Myck:
Hello Videotomi,
because I'm the Canon as a shoulder mounted camcorder as synonymous interested, I have three questions.
How do you adjust the sharpness On - especially in low light --
leaves you to AF or do you enter manual?
Ordinary light bulb in the living room (evening):
Do you have noise in the picture?
How is the Canon in DV mode?
Gruß,
jan
Antwort von videotomi:
Hello,
I am almost never at the AF and movies almost exclusively in manual mode. Very happy, I use the fast "keypress" (now grad does not know how the thing is to ;-) Make Up .... rarely do I have yet to date in the ring (which we know very difficult synonymous iss ... without display; -- (
In a normal living room, I have not yet filmed. But in larger rooms with more times, sometimes with less light: So far I had no gain to turn (in the stands with me "off" and not "A") - all recordings were sufficiently exposed. My impression: normal - good light sensitivity.
The DV-only mode, I can with my "old darling" of the XL1S compare between this and the subject of my XLH1A subjective sensation worlds (but where should actually come from?)
I'm from DV mode fascinated!
All the best and Merry Christmas.
Tomi
www.videotown.tv
Antwort von Butzow:
I am almost never at the AF and movies almost exclusively in manual mode. Very happy, I use the fast "keypress" (now grad does not know how the thing is to ;-) Make Up .... rarely do I have yet to date in the ring (which we know very difficult synonymous iss ... without display; -- (
Hi Videotomi,
sorry that I nachbohre, but
what's that for 'ne button?
Is not it synonymous something autonatisches what you mean by that is in motion,
or the meinste PEAKING or Magnifying button?
Incidentally, you can zoom and Aperture at the same time change?
When was the xha1 yes to update with the s hintendran not.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... what is it for 'ne button ?.... No idea if the Canon may be called differently, but usually something is the "Push AF" - a short-term activation of the auto.
... Can you zoom way, and Aperture at the same time change? When was the xha1 yes to update with the s hintendran not ... Then it comes to zoom and focus: The Aperture has nothing to do.
Antwort von Butzow:
I felt sorry synonymous:)
Antwort von videotomi:
the speakers were already answered ...
1. Yes, the button is push AF
2. Yes, zoom and focus is also adjustable
1 further nice feature for me in another XLH1A:
Below the Zoomwippe there is a wheel to adjust the zoom (factor: 1-16) - in my eyes an seeeehr useful feature!
And the rest: the zoom really realized buttery soft rides - especially the very synonymous soft start and braking!
All the best
Tomi
www.videotown.tv
