Frage von Felix_Wuppertal:
Dear Forum Users,
I currently have a plane (Hobby-) cut square build. Besides my two TFTs, I would like a preview screen on a Blackmagic Intensity operate.
For a reliable, crisp and smooth presentation, I search now a cheap monitor (ie EUR 400-700), both native FullHD 1080i (1080p is not necessarily his) as synonymous showing 50Hz natively.
The entries for the HP w2408h were very helpful. I'd like to, what alternatives there are and whether that someone has experience.
My internet search is not helpful. I have read several Datasheet. The favorable and smaller television have lower resolutions and all the monitors (eg, the Samsung SyncMaster) only 60Hz and 1080x1200 pixels.
Allegedly, some LG monitor suitable. Here I read in the manuals (eg L246WPM) that the screen operates with 60Hz. Only the description of the HDMI input is something of 50Hz and 1080i). But this screen can then synonymous natively or is converted to 60Hz?
I think it would be very helpful if you here a few times together models could really monitor as appropriate. I (and surely many others) would make the many hours of search Save - my main problem is but as I said that my search was unsuccessful. Who has experience?
Antwort von Felix_WUppertal:
Another addendum:
Many TFTs (for example, the Samsung SyncMaster 2493HM) have refresh the data sheet of 50-85Hz specified. In manual you can find mostly Auflsitung all possible resolutions and refresh rates. There is then only of 58Hz, 60Hz, 75Hz talk. I understand this correctly, that the screen accepts 50Hz, but then always extrapolate?
Are there other than the HP at all with a TFT 50Hz ?????
Antwort von Axel:
The thread that you've read, are as far as I know the state of things.
Frequency, and overscan Seitenverhaeltnis are favorable for the LGS and Samsung are not really optimal, but for the average of all the ranges - and in my opinion is better than all without an external monitor. That is the gap between professional and amateur equipment.
For optimum calibration devices with advantageous if you at least 5-fold way. That is, if you have a Con-Prosumercamcorder or have simply no relationship.
Antwort von Felix_Wuppertal:
Hi Axel. Thank you for your reply. I agree with you absolutely that simple for my rights monitors should be sufficient. I need for my films (synonymous if I plenty of time and perfection in the cut invest) certainly does not have optimal calibration.
But what about 60Hz with a conversion from? What really upset me would be if movements and especially pans Zoomfahrten and bucking. Interlaced (1080i) - Halbbildernn shots with 50 on a 60Hz monitor, I have a problem before. Maybe I was wrong here but synonymous. But I would like to be able to decide at the intersection if a swing has been achieved or whether he is too choppy.
I did try a few AVCHD sample clips and downloaded on my Snycmastern with 60Hz played. These pans Jerkiness Unfortunately, very clear and show interlace Kammeffekte. Maybe that solves the problem but by using the Blackmagic Intensity ...
Are there really only the HP monitor, which is synonymous to 50Hz?
Antwort von TomBom:
The Sony40W2000 remains strong in terms of the 50 Hz issue, but slightly more expensive. And working with the Intensity without overscan and in full-HD.
The Intensity can spend it only 1080i, and 1080p eh no.
Antwort von TomBom:
AVCHD material is unsuitable for a play test - this may just as well s.Material, if jerky and the PC is too weak.
Antwort von Felix_Wuppertal:
The Sony40W2000 really seems to be good (I've already read more). With 1200EUR me but he is too expensive. If someone has a tip for a 50HZ TFT, which is 700 EUR, I would be thrilled.
What I would like in any case is that here again a AVCHD / HDV - discussion starts. One thing is for sure but in any case where a TFT 50Hz for PAL material is the better choice would be ...
Because someone knows whether the LGS (eg L246WPM) can actually 50Hz natively? Here I have in other forums, unfortunately, contradictory statements read ...
Antwort von wolfgang:
It is not AVCHD - HDV discussion - but only to the question whether the PC is strong enough to play AVCHD material smooth. And whether you therefore as an indicator for the 50 Hz issue can take.
And of course, is a 50 Hz device for 50i material a good choice. One possibility could be the Toshiba 37X3030D that has the Holger Scheel times in CV Magazine 5 / 07 tested, he did this test, according to a frame rate of 50 Hz, has an interruptible overscan, and with the intensity should be well run. Cost to 900 euros.
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a242931.html
Perhaps synonymous of LG L245 WP possible, the works in accordance with the test data listed synonymous with 50 Hz, and would be cheaper. Whether the 50 Hz now agree, was evidence of users - according to the technical data I would not expect:
http://de.lge.com/products/model/detail/businessundoffice_l245wp.jhtml#
But here you can read mans - Links in the 1st Posting below:
http://www.videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=4796
And the gibts halt around 520 Euro:
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a227406.html
Antwort von PowerMac:
http://www.finalcutprofi.de/phpboard/viewtopic.php?t=51184
http://www.finalcutprofi.de/phpboard/viewtopic.php?t=50667
Antwort von Felix_Wuppertal:
Thank you for the many hints. I will probably be for a LG L245 WP decide. I hope that what the users say true. The technical data I would have more data at a 60Hz TFT closed, the 50Hz-Singnale converts.
Antwort von TMaekler:
Well, you have no guarantees - but why should users lie in their reports?
Antwort von Genevare:
Hello Felix
Stand facing the same problem. If you've already purchased LG, I would be interested to know how he is with 1080 / 50i in the pan and watch how synonymous he is otherwise a video preview monitor is ideal.
Gruss
Jörg
PS: Of the following screens, I have read that they are also suitable for 50 Hz are:
HP w2408H (GM712AA)
Test Report: http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2007/test-hp-w2408h-teil15.html
ViewSonic VX2435wm
see test report:
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2007/test-viewsonic-vx2435wm.html
