Frage von nedla:
Morning folks!
Take 3 weeks in February to Japan and would like to see until then NEN growth camcorder!
In principle, no preference isses me what medium he uses (Mini DV, HDD, SDHC), I would just as little money for the best picture ^ ^
Price limit is 300 ¬ and I am over 200 ¬ only for a new unit would spend
I have already viewed the various candidates, I could imagine:
Panasonic NV-GS 27 -> Used ~ 100 ¬
Panasonic SDR-S 7 ---> Used ~ 120 ¬
Panasonic NV-GS 80 / 90 -> use ~ 140-180 ¬
Panasonic SDR-S 9 / 10 ---> Used ~ 160 ¬
JVC GZ-MG 130 / 330 Used ----> ~ 150 ¬ / 198 ¬ new
Panasonoc NV-GS230 -> used 200 ¬
Canon FS 100 ---> new 248 ¬
I know the list is very mixing with SD, HDD, mini-dv and candidates, waterproof times, sometimes with 3CCD sensor
But like I said, I just want the best picture in the mentioned price range.
You might want synonymous make a kind of ranking. should be called if the cheap gs27er better picture than the SDR-S9 makes, but worse than the gs230, I must first consider whether the me ¬ 100 is worth more :-)
Skin in the keys!
EDIT
And for all those who are from the "skin in the keys' feel attacked (it is the domain except on anybody?):
I appreciate every helpful post!
Antwort von domain:
I recommend you the NV-GS 27 Very needed because s.billigsten and s.besten suitable to you.
Antwort von nedla:
What do with s.besten fit? For a beginner that is perfectly adequate?
Is the jump to the NV-GS230 is not soo big?
Antwort von domain:
Then go halt 3-times less food in Japan and already provides for the purchase situation for a Video Camera in Europe is very different, so to speak can have about ¬ 500, - for more leads.
Now I have time but I really need to hold back in hindsight, cutting keys, because I would actually unofficially you what else to say ...
Antwort von nedla:
Eat 3 times = 500 ¬?
In what world you live actually?
If you need your Dä *** Geflame get rid of it like, you can save time in the keys to hit.
I do not understand your problem, I have previously informed the camcorder in the price segment, which suck me reports / read reviews, etc. and now here's the simple question which is now finally being made the best Picture!
If I, without the search function to use, simply would have written, I have 300 ¬ tells me what I should buy, I would understand such a post.
So please, answer to the question, or someone else -.- nerv
Antwort von tillbaer:
@ nedla:
For me, the FS100 to square 1 Possibly. However, the 320/330 of Panasonic but still slightly better picture of her. Just such a vacation would be to me personally pleasant SDHC cards, as a mini-DV cassettes.
Happy holidays, and - go to eat as often as you want :-)))))
Antwort von domain:
Skin in the keys! Joker or Boldin.
With such a degrading call you will probably never reach a constructive advice can .........
Antwort von nedla:
omfg 0o
What it would be degrading to me explain again ...
Some people have problems ...
Antwort von domain:
It is not just about the last call impertinent, but the whole sound of your "request" is borne of Präpotenz.
But let it be good, sleep well my dear unexperienced girls ......
Antwort von nedla:
The good Lord may forgive me that I have a forum in a very simple, and so in my understanding, synonymous herzlichen sound stop.
Especially as the answer to a question, I believe, should be INDEPENDENCE by Asker occurrence (as long as it is not offensive) or the form of the question (as long as it is understandable), but particularly since the purchase ADVISORY-forum namen meet the counseling should focus on.
Therefore, everything in my opinion with less Präpotenz (on which I already "something" beyond bin) to do, but rather with a question + answer as quickly as possible to do so.
Since I wanted to offend anyone, I will scrupulously careful to ensure that they, domain, unable to under siezen.
I think this discussion is now quite enlightening, so I would be different opinions (primarily listed on the camcorder, secondary to the "offensive content" of my question) is very interested.
Yours sincerely
Nedla
Antwort von domain:
Look at the good person can be synonymous differently and is not as stupid as it initially tried to represent ......
Antwort von vertov99:
a note: if you have many movies during the holiday and no occasion did the recordings on the same notebook, etc. to play, you have a great need for fast s.speicherkarten. a classic mini-DV camcorder offers in such a situation tend to.
Antwort von nedla:
@ Vertov
Thanks for the hint!
This consideration, I had been synonymous ...
There are memory cards, but more resistant and require less space, but take in a compressed format, if I had read it correctly ...
Since I am the best quality possible to have the "need" it, I think mini DV will be ... and since s.besten the GS230er because of the 3CCD sensor.
Or the sensors have now made such progress that the "newest" of the Canon sensor 1ccd better pictures?
Greeting
Nedla
Antwort von Daigoro:
With the second-hand cameras do you no favors.
As you can wait months until you Do what ordinary (unless you can buy somewhere private and have not Ebay) and should then have a little experience with cameras and Ebay generally have to be able to assess what was fit and what is not (so I would * never * what needed to buy of Ebay, of which I understand little and can not judge whether his money's worth - that flies because too much rum and scrap the risk of total loss is much too large).
Ne new Panasonic NV-GS 330 grad mal cost 340-350 euros - with warranty, new battery of nem longer than 20 minutes and keeps his unvernudelten tape * - would be my recommendation for a worry-free vacation.
* (Grad in the area know you are * never * like the camera is gone before and as you can for mishandling s.teurem some damage)
Antwort von shipoffools:
...
There are memory cards, but more resilient ... I think this is a rumor.
If you as a "card" verreckt ", and this can easily happen, then anything is what it was synonymous lost and irretrievably lost. I am only times when a drop of rainwater to the contacts of an SD card came, and I have the contacts with a paper handkerchief carefully abgetupft before then I had put into the car. And nothing was more synonymous the card reader s.PC thing could elicit nothing more. Fortunately, only MP3 files to it, which anyway was on the PC. To view a mini DV cassette "dead" to get, as it must happen a lot more.
However, you have cards with no drive noise of the recording with it, what with mini-DV camcorders quite often the case.
Has everything advantages and disadvantages.
Greeting
shipoffools
Antwort von nedla:
Ok, so is therefore buying second hand away, although I am quite experienced Ebay, but if just in the area Schmu driven much I probably will go to play it safe.
And then me ¬ 350 but something much more are still coming to accessories, etc.
It should then probably decide between these models:
Canon FS 100, Neupreis 248 ¬ (http://www.eg-electronics.com/product_info.php?pName=canon-fs100-silber-p-8303)
Panasonic NV-GS90, Neupreis ¬ 200 (http://www.warsteiner-fotoversand.de/product_info.php?products_id=1851)
Panasonic SDR-S7, Neupreis 183 ¬ at the local job market in the Media
Panasonic SDR-S9, Neupreis 199 ¬ (http://www.fotomundus24.de/shop/panasonic-sdrs-p-7349.html)
Have read that the picture quality of the Canon, the GS90 + are approximately equal, wohei the Panasonic Lowlight better skills to have.
The other people have an incorrect image Stabilization complains that halfway quiet recordings make it impossible to be ...
can anyone confirm or deny?
The SDR devices will indeed be synonymous quite fit, but a short-term battery have?
Hope someone brings light into the dark :-)
Antwort von Daigoro:
Ok, so is therefore buying second hand away, although I am quite experienced Ebay, but if just in the area Schmu driven much I probably will go to play it safe.
Also no more than "usual", but it does hold heavier than other objects in assessing what the box is worth more.
"Little filmed" zb says little. If 5 different band types were used (as respects the layman is not necessarily it) - and s.besten much and played the tape in the drive left, the head already with a few tapes to be so polluted that a cleaning tape does not work and an expensive Cleaning in the workshop is necessary.
And although the small parts only cost few hundred dollars, most repairs immediately 3stellingen area - there is the guarantee of its Virgin Money worth - and even set up what is in the rarest cases.
I would not themselves Camera for 200, - Buy, so I can of the above models as little to say.
Antwort von Klaushonold:
Look at the good person can be synonymous differently and is not as stupid as it initially tried to represent ...... stupid you're probably better
see garnix unfriendly s.threadsteller but you flamé around here without question,
