Frage von kerberos:
Hello,
I have a few holiday videos in the States would now be rotated and my hosts send a DVD of a video. All this would then be played back on a regular DVD player.
The photographs themselves are in PAL format (as AVI from DV camcorder to transfer).
How do I go s.geschicktesten before, so the DVD can be perfectly played there? It must surely be the NTSC format, but I do not know if I already have to convert the videos or if I have to set the later in the DVD creation.
The DVD will include a menu synonymous, since they are two videos and a few pictures.
Thanks in advance.
Gruß Uwe
Antwort von Gast1:
In preparation of converting DVD to NTSC.
Antwort von beiti:
It depends very much off of your workflow, for example, with what software you are working. If you are encoding the material first and then do it in a separate authoring software, the material must of course be subject to prior normgewandelt. If you are an All-In-One program will use the car possibly made as soon as you set NTSC as the final format. Theoretically, yes to the synonymous DVD menus for NTSC another Resolutionbekommen, which also happens depending on the software automatically, or you must be of yourself made.
This complication is that the quality of standards conversion is not the same with any software to be fine. To that extent it may be appropriate to convert the video already on AVI level and then perform the complete DVD authoring in NTSC, as if the material has already come from an NTSC camcorder.
Antwort von martinsw:
Thank you, that I thought fast.
I mainly work with the Ulead Media Studio and DVD Workshop.
The problem is that I have the DVD does not 'time just to try out', if it works.
Antwort von beiti:
The problem is that I have the DVD does not 'time just to try out', if it works. Why not?
Antwort von martinsw:
because I have neither a player nor a PAL-NTSC Television.
Antwort von beiti:
But virtually all PAL players can play NTSC, and it usually is synonymous a way to display it on the PAL television (either PAL60 or reconverted).
Antwort von kerberos:
yes, nice and good, but I know still not 100% whether it synonymous NTSC works in a pure environment.
Antwort von beiti:
Even if it works for the known A, it has not been long at work to a friend B. There are still some errors, and the DVD player are different tolerant.
If your friend have a Billigplayer that can perhaps convert PAL to NTSC, so that we could play them on the PAL DVD on a NTSC TV. For example, the models of Cyber Home (which it is synonymous in the U.S.) can do this
Antwort von prem:
Have the following done:
1. Deinterlaced video
2. Cut Sequence (Final Cut Pro) to NTSC (resolution, frame rate, codec) created.
3. The PAL-NTSC video in the sequence given, and exported.
4. NTSC DVD created
Feddich!
Antwort von beiti:
1. Deinterlaced video It must, however horrible jerk.
Antwort von kerberos:
Seems to be something but probably more expensive.
I will probably proceed as follows:
- Convert all videos in NTSC
- Create DVD Project in NTSC
- Insert videos into the Project, Creating Menus
- Create DVD.
Then, when it is not working there, I know, but not next synonymous.
Antwort von Sauber:
Hello!
I bought last year on holiday in the U.S. and the Caribbean a DVD! (This document was produced as an extra for the trip with BetacamSX in NTSC!) The purchase, I have repeatedly stated that I need eien but PAL version! Then I was told that no, the preference is! The DVDs can be played anywhere!
That's what I thought, and lo and behold! The disc was in 1A quality on my DVD player!
If anyone knows a tool with which I read as the format or the like can, please post on, there's times I look like after it was created in which format the DVD! In any case, it seems only a DVD type for both NTSC and PAL synonymous for indicating to!
Peter
Antwort von beiti:
Then I was told that no, the preference is! The DVDs can be played anywhere! Presumably he meant that the DVD is no region code and therefore the playback is not regionally limited - but what to do with the TV standards nothing. It can never produces the standard of a "universal DVD to give." Either one has 50 fields per second or 60 A universal-between does not exist. I suspect that your Caribbean-DVD is completely NTSC.
There can be two versions of the film to DVD, make (for example, I've seen double-sided DVDs, the front and rear PAL and NTSC have it), but that's something else.
All DVD players sold in Germany ever be able to play NTSC synonymous, unless the region does not prevent it (as with all U.S. movie DVDs). If the output of the player is properly set and / or the NTSC television goes, is therefore nothing in the way of playing.
Unfortunately, the reverse does not work the same way. Most players sold in the U.S. only understand NTSC.
The region has nothing to do with the TV norm. For example, Japan has just as Europe RC2, although it is used in Japan NTSC.
@ Uwe:
Your proposed route sounds plausible. But before you doing such an effort, but you could ask your friend even when using what the DVD player, and perhaps even if the can play PAL.
Antwort von kerberos:
Your proposed route sounds plausible. But before you doing such an effort, but you could ask your friend even when using what the DVD player, and perhaps even if the can play PAL. Well, I think converting to NTSC the clips will make the greatest amount of time.
But since it takes a total of only about 30 minutes and the rest of the authoring is in NTSC are indeed not of the difference in PAL, the effort is likely to be limited.
Let's see how far I get with the Ulead tools.
A demand is a good idea, but I have my doubts whether my friends are familiar with it. But maybe they can help even the name of the next player.
If the player could, what with the Television?
Antwort von beiti:
If the player completely transforms the norm) (as CyberHome Billigplayer and some others, the Television can be 100% NTSC. However, this "transformation" of (the simpler kind, the PAL fields to play a little faster, and every 5th Field is doubled).
If you make will own the change depends on the quality of the conversion from your application. I have already tasted some, and I found the quality of s.besten Canopus ProCoder Express. (Here are generated by intermediate fading.)
Ulead how good or bad makes, I can not say.
In the above program Canopus way, I have discovered the peculiarity that (the Normwandeln on AVI level of so-AVI to PAL DV NTSC DV-AVI) and the subsequent MPEG-2 encoding (AVI to PAL-NTSC MPEG2) aggregated is faster than both in one operation (PAL-NTSC DV AVI to MPEG2). Why this is so remains a secret of Canopus.
Antwort von Markus:
Hello Uwe,
Your friends have a computer with DVD drive? The computer it is in fact no preference, with what size and frame rate runs a video ...
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
I now had little desire to read the above post by a hair to
do it like this:
- Create your movie with Ulead Media Studio 7
- Create the timeline with the MPEG File
Video
720x480
29.97 fps
A field order (lower)
Audio
48khz 256 kps
For a holiday video with friends which is so ok, what makes the encoder of Ulead.
Now comes the tricky point: the audio.
Older DVD players in the U.S. can not play mpeg audio, but only Linear PCM (LPCM). This is a WAV form with 1536 kps.
So if you want to be really sure that you can hear the sound synonymous, put into a template Ulead PowerTools s.with NTSC and LPCM.
But you must take into account in the bitrate for the video!
With a length of 60-70 minutes that is no problem.
And another thing:
- Our players can play NTSC DVD's, at least the newer
- This is usually a NTSC PAL60, it is the you have a player, where you can set NTSC TV, and your TV is synonymous NTSC 3.58
Antwort von kerberos:
Hello Uwe,
Your friends have a computer with DVD drive? The computer it is in fact no preference, with what size and frame rate runs a video ... Then I would have the whole thread can save ;-)
I'm going with Media Studio and the power tools to easily let's see what comes out there. If in doubt, one blank and one free postage ....
The video itself is succinct 20 minutes long, should therefore still be a problem.
Antwort von Kusie:
Hello everyone,
I stood / stand at the exact same problem: I want to make a DVD in NTSC, which will be played on a standalone DVD player i the U.S.. Source material is DV PAL of the camera, Schnittprogamm MediaStudio pro 8, FramServer and as an MPEG2 encoder TMPGENC.
The story so far:
I opened a new MSP project as a DV NTSC and PAL reingeschmissen my clips there. Then pass per frame server directly from the timeline and TMPGENC and there, the template "NTSC DVD with" converted.
So that means I have the editing program to convert the 25 fps 720x576 PAL videos left to 720x480 NTSC 29.97 pfs - that was a BAD idea! The resulting DVD video shows the correct field order, despite stepped-stairs effect on motion MASSIVE as incorrect field order, almost useless. Apparently it is possible MSP 8 is not, correct the missing frames at the same time resize the frames on ntsc-size calculation, since coming out mess.
What I have not tried it yet: PAL project to create and then from the MPEG2 encoder (in this fall can TMPGENC) to convert to NTSC.
Not appear is the "clean" only if one has to insert the PAL DVs BEFORE brought into NTSC Project already on proper NTSC format .... am also on the verge of the entire frame-in a format like XviD to convert and then burn easily access data on CD and the opportunity to play the PC, then look not only gehts halt on the big tv ... schei ** interlaced, shi ** TV standards! grrrrr ... has anyone tips on how to get the PAL DV changed as quickly as possible and well in proper NTSC?
DAnke!
Kusi
Antwort von beiti:
I myself have tried some variations (in Premiere Convert, Transform with Motion Perfect, etc.), but the result was never so great. I was just really happy with the Canopus ProCoder Express. The download version costs 54 ¬ plus VAT, and alone is worth its money as an MPEG2 encoder.
Antwort von Kusie:
I myself have tried some variations (in Premiere Convert, Transform with Motion Perfect, etc.), but the result was never so great. I was just really happy with the Canopus ProCoder Express. The download version costs 54 ¬ plus VAT, and alone is worth its money as an MPEG2 encoder. Hi,
So you have done this project in DV PAL, and then passed directly s.den Canopus Procoder? And takes care of everything when encoding to MPEG2 and it looks good then? Yes Sounds too good to be true. That would of course be the best solution.
I geacht to:
Convert to 29.97 fps with MotionPerfekt
Resize with VDub to NTSC resolution
Then finished NTSC-AVIS replace the Project.
And the result is worse than the Canopus?
Gruß,
Kusi
Antwort von beiti:
I found MotionPerfect not good for two reasons:
- The rendered (intermediate) images are visibly less sharp than the original images more easily maintained. It looks stupid.
- The motion detection works often unsatisfactory vsbei (moving camera) and then interpolated to the strange artifacts Picture.
Canopus is working when you change the frame rate with transitions, and if you look at the individual, one can see the partly synonymous as double contours, but in the flow of movement, it looks good. Only s.sehr even movements (eg, rolling tracks) you can still see some stuttering. Overall, the standards conversion is thus the norm an altered level of many television series. (Since the jerky guy synonymous.)
From a practical work here ProCoder Express is quite flexible. The source material is automatically detected, and we must always specify the target format. You can have a ready-PAL DV-AVI using as starting material and can be output directly MPEG2 to NTSC. But you can spend synonymous DV-AVI to NTSC, perform the cut completely in NTSC and NTSC DV, the finished load then again in the ProCoder and encode in MPEG2.
Or any loss or perfect, this kind of standards conversion, but not with software I have found so far is nothing better. The render time, however, is significant, vswenn one of PAL-NTSC DV directly to MPEG2, and is thereby recruited VBR/2-pass. Impatiently, we should not be then. :)
Antwort von Gast1:
Why easy if it is synonymous complicated :-)
Best possible quality for home video: The video in MSP or any other editing software as PAL DV AVI editing and output. The transcoder PAL DV-AVI with ProCoder in an NTSC VOB (Audio: PCM). VOB as a video DVD with Nero burn. Done.
TMPGEnc is synonymous ProCoder but doing better.
Good quality: The MSP or any other video editing software as PAL DV-AVI, edit and print. With DVD PowerTools author (here you can get burn usUntertitel give in) and a NTSC video DVD. The reference in Power Tools transcoder is not as good as TMPG or ProCoder.
I am doing this for years and have never heard such complaints. I am loading the file on Rapidshare up and my family over there and invite them down to burn itself
If you would like to grope "" and try out several other possibilities, here are a few alternatives: http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?howtoselect=4; 41 # 4, 41
But most of them require that you familiarize yourself with the software and the subject matter.
Then comes the more professional version, since you'd have ggf in Adobe After Effects and invest a plugin. So you can do frame rate conversion at the pixel überblendung since this would involve the moving of Picture in Picture Pixel interpolation for additional pictures. This will own pictures with a lot of movement quite soft converted. Costs, however, and the learning curve is very flat (as in any case :-) threw me.
Antwort von beiti:
The transcoder PAL DV-AVI with ProCoder in an NTSC VOB (Audio: PCM). VOB as a video DVD with Nero burn. Done. I have tried, but I have ProCoder produced during long shooting just one big VOB. My DVD player (and a few others probably synonymous) can not play then because he VOBs of a maximum of 1 GB in size can cope.
Since then, I give in ProCoder only MPEG2 elementary streams out and do it with any other authoring software (depending on the claim IFOEdit or GUI dvdauthor).
Now we are already in the subtleties of the authoring. :)
Antwort von Gast1:
ProCoder ... but I have created during long shooting just one big VOB ... Then you have either a bug somewhere in your ProCoder or incorrectly set was. The latter I can scarcely imagine, however, finally there is a DVD standard and Canopus keeps almost always very accurate s.The standards.
My ProCoder makes only VOBs of max ~ 1048 MB and more ggf.
For MPEG2, I would rather a starting place Elemtary Streams program streams recommend some Authoringprogs can not deal with Elemtary streams or there must be specially set. Here again people always write in the forum, which suddenly lacks audio "" because they are encoded at Elementary.
Antwort von beiti:
For MPEG2, I would rather a starting place Elemtary Streams program streams recommend some Authoringprogs can not deal with Elemtary streams or there must be specially set. Here again people always write in the forum, which suddenly lacks audio "" because they are encoded at Elementary. Belongs, as I said, to the subtleties of the authoring. Typical entry programs require program streams, professional-oriented Programs, to require elementary streams. If ultimately depends, what you want to work.
Then you have either a bug somewhere in your ProCoder or incorrectly set was. The latter I can scarcely imagine, however, finally there is a DVD standard and Canopus keeps almost always very accurate s.The standards.
My ProCoder makes only VOBs of max ~ 1048 MB and more ggf. I have to try again on the occasion, because there were times in the Zwischezeit an update and I have not been tested since then. When I tried it recently, I received a single VOB with nearly 3 GB.
Antwort von Gast1:
Belongs, as I said, to the subtleties of the authoring. Typical entry programs require program streams, professional-oriented Programs, to require elementary streams. Hat with the Authoring and the subtleties of doing basically nothing. The result of the authoring is influenced by the contents of the stream in None manner. Working with one Elemtary shortened stream best, remux saves formatting to ~ 1 min or the de-. The typical novice programs "that I know can certainly handle elementary streams. Or with other words, the works with elementary streams does not make a "professional" :-)
I have to try again on the occasion, because there were times in the Zwischezeit an update and I have not been tested since then. When I tried it recently, I received a single VOB with nearly 3 GB. I looked again, the version history of ProCoder, since nothing is of one VOB bug. I use this program for years and have never heard a 3 GB VOB obtained. You may want to claim your copy of Canopus?
Antwort von beiti:
I looked again, the version history of ProCoder, since nothing is of one VOB bug. Do you have the full version? I ProCoder Express.
You may want to claim your copy of Canopus? Thus, a software error can not even for a single copy (it is occurring) no vacuum cleaner. But I will occasionally try again.
Antwort von Gast1:
Thus, a software error can not even for a single copy (it is occurring) no vacuum cleaner. Just beiti precisely :-)
Antwort von beiti:
Okay, I made the last two hours a test run. ProCoder Express now makes clean 0.99-GB VOBs. Maybe it was really just a bug s.Anfang (I had the very first version) has been fixed already with the first update.
Antwort von Kusie:
Sooo people
I would like to thank all, especially when beiti and "gast1", the tips of you were worth gold! It really is MUCH better than the Edit Project PAL (ie as the source) to leave and then convert the PAL DV in NTSC to MPEG2 conversion in! Programmed directly in the editing MURK's times three!
The result that I now present (with TMPGENC changed) is absolutely sufficient for the amateur!
Gruß,
Kusi
Antwort von Buzzdee:
I stand before the same problem (PAL DVD 16:9 NTSC DVD 16:9), but the original files, but not only the finished DVD. If I have understood correctly, can begin in the U.S. with PAL DVDs even nothing at all?
How can I now s.besten create an NTSC copy? Does it only affect change fps to 29.97?
For conversion are my Premiere 2.0 and ProCoder available.
Regards
Sebastian
Antwort von beiti:
@ Sebastian
If you're lucky, your partner in the U.S. has a cheap DVD player that converts PAL internal in NTSC and is jerky. But the fact you can not leave you. If in doubt, we would have to test it.
Since you have ProCoder available, should the conversion of video data to be a major problem - unless you want all the menus, etc. synonymous preserved. I know of no program, the complete DVD normwandelt.
When you write, it'll go, "just to change the fps to 29.97, then you imagine it a little too easy. Exactly this change is the difficult part of the standard conversion.
Antwort von cidercyber:
I stand before the same problem (PAL DVD 16:9 NTSC DVD 16:9), but the original files, but not only the finished DVD. If I have understood correctly, can begin in the U.S. with PAL DVDs even nothing at all?
How can I now s.besten create an NTSC copy? Does it only affect change fps to 29.97?
For conversion are my Premiere 2.0 and ProCoder available.
Regards
Sebastian I have tried schonmal synonymous, so the finished PAL VOBs of TMPGENC in NTSC MPEG-2 can walk - but botch!
Antwort von beiti:
In ProCoder you can already use VOB as the starting file and it is not synonymous fiasco - but it has behind just the pure video data, and no menus.
Antwort von Buzzdee:
Thank you very much! Hm, well then I'll try this time with the ProCoder. Menus are not on it, is only the homemade video. If there is something important to note the settings (I must admit that I matters in the entire coding'm still quite clueless)?
Regards
Sebastian
