Frage von radres:
Hi,
'm new here and hope someone can help me ...
Since I am just not cutting-edge notebook can come to me only used models in question, which is priced in the range up to 450 Euro are.
Besides the functionality for DV editing, it would be of advantage if the notebook is small and would be easy. What functionality is concerned it is clear to me that I was in comparison to the latest notebooks sacrifice to do it, what speed is concerned, but it would be important to me that we still have a reasonably "normal" pace of work is possible. As for the software, I would like with Adobe Premiere Pro or Elements, or Pinnacle work.
From the Lifebook series of FSC, I have heard only good, but little relating to 'DV editing with older models. Therefore, I have researched and the following models rausgesucht and ask you for your opinion:
Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook S7010-P4M
Intel Centrino 1.6GHz,
14 "Screen
40 GB, 512 MB RAM, IEEE 1394 Firewire
Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook S7010
Intel Centrino 1.73 GHz,
14.1 "Screen
60 GB, 512 MB RAM, EEE 1394-Firewire
18 kg
Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook S7010
Intel Pentium Centrino, 1.7 GHz
Data bus speed: 600 MHz
Cache Memory: L1 - 64KB / L2 - 2 MB
1GB DDR SDRAM - a latch (2GB Max)
IDE hard drive 60 GB
14.1 "TFT active matrix 1024 x 768 (XGA)
For suggestions of other manufacturers, I would be very grateful of course, synonymous, but only up to 450 euros.
Thank you in advance.
RADR
Antwort von Meggs:
As for the software, I would like with Adobe Premiere Pro or Elements, or Pinnacle work.
Premiere increase the hardware requirements with each release (as with other programs synonymous). I can imagine that those notebooks with Premiere Pro 1.0 works just a reasonable nor possible.
A 14 "display is not so ideal, and external hard disks, you will need synonymous.
I would have once again about whether you have the 450 ¬ is not better in a halfway invest current desktop PC.
Antwort von pm:
For 450 euros you will get a calculator with the current dual-core processor, 2GB of RAM and 160 gig hard usually drive and ne graphics card, which is synonymous halfway Spieletauglich.
Throw out the graphics card and you can use 4GB of RAM and hard drive ne thicker purely slide.
Since the money is far better applied than in his old notebook.
Antwort von Daigoro:
Und nen nice, used Eizo or Samsung 21 " 'more than full HD' monitor *.:)
Nominal I always liked, because the things here at the computer users around the corner Palletenweise rumstehen and no more than about 30-50 euros.
* zb the F931 Eizo Flex Scan
http://www.amazon.de/EIZO-FlexScan-F931-Monitor-TCO99/dp/B0001229E2
Here grad used with 6 months warranty for 39.99
Antwort von radres:
Thanks for the quick Antorten.
It should have a notebook, simply for the reason, synonymous because I would like to work on.
When I see your answers, it means probably that the Lifebook models rather inappropriate. Shame on you! I would have thought that at least the latter model would be sufficient to perhaps smaller projects such as holiday videos of notebook computer on to play and then edit it.
Is there perhaps some other opinions?
Thanks again.
Antwort von jazzy_d:
Viellecht another editing program, the proxy can do. eg Ulead Media Studio Pro 8th As you can on each notebook "cut". Proxies need then stop again, but more space on the hard drive and that takes time to convert. What cut you? DV or HDV?
Antwort von studio tre:
http://www.one.de/shop/product_info.php?cPath=131&manufacturers_id=&osCsid=&products_id=2404
This can at least in Premiere 1 and 2 work. For DV safe enough!
Antwort von beiti:
I would have thought that at least the latter model would be sufficient to perhaps smaller projects such as holiday videos of notebook computer on to play and then edit it. It stands and falls with the software used. The newer, the more real-time function, and even higher requirements to the system. The older, more economical, the hardware itself.
If you do not transition effect Freak're somewhere versuch the old Premiere 6.0 to get (the premiere was the first version, without any additional software could cut DV). Premiere 6.0 does almost nothing in real time (except for hard cuts and a few tracks), it is unnecessary for s.ca. a 1-GHz processor with 256 MB of RAM. The operating system is at least Win2k to recommend (for NTFS file sizes).
Important are a Firewire socket and enough disk space - preferably on a separate partition that is cut after each project can erase. Per GB fit about 4 1 / 2 minutes DV drauf.
Antwort von babalu:
It should have a notebook, simply for the reason, synonymous because I would like to work on. This is still damned hard - because for used laptops, you can still safely add new Battery (approx. 100 ¬) - or you are looking for an outlet every time you like, but that is not first, then more truly "mobile" and secondly, the non-synonymous in all countries leave.
I would be synonymous on desktop set.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Pleasure is not without power. I think it is a question in the luggage space is not too much to consume.
I can well imagine that one with an older version of the software and can work only DV. You will probably not be happy, you will be abe to work can.
In any case, a memory and an external hard drive (NTFS formatted) to übelegen. Windows XP, not Vista.
Antwort von steveb:
I cut several films ever synonymous with a Celeron Samsung notebook. However, up to 30 minutes in length. As a program, I use an older version of Ulead Media Studio (7). This is not as fast as on my dual core desktop, but for pure visors and a bit of text involved, it is really easy. It will be difficult when different source formats used or mixed. But DV radio is perfect. Also, the external USB 2.0 disk I use, enough (imho) from.
However, you should really consider whether it makes sense to not have a hundred more to invest. There are already some dual-core laptops you can buy. For example, of Lenovo.
Antwort von radres:
Thank you for the many opinions and suggestions.
I am currently a little out and her torn as to whether a new notebook as the following (thanks s.Gast) is not perhaps the better solution is:
- 499 Euro
One notebook A5550 [4352]
Intel ® Core !" 2 Duo Processor T5250 with 2 x 1.5 GHz
- 2048MB DDR2 Memory PC667
- 160GB hard drive
- DVD Burner Drive
- 256MB of onboard graphics
I let you know as I continue to do, ok? Again thanks s.alle. Forum super!
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Take that! Cheap and of sufficient performance, even with 2GB RAM.
What do you want more?
Antwort von DeeZiD:
And always nice drauf eighth that no Firewire port is, so that when you need such advice can be great again.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
An IEEE 1394 card already get for under 30 euros ...
The consultancy will even create a media market of employees:-P
Antwort von Daigoro:
An IEEE 1394 card already get for under 30 euros ...
The consultancy will even create a media market of employees:-P Some notebooks have very inconvenient PC Card slots and the most FireWire/USB2.0 PC cards for retrofitting are basically built very impractical.
Even better if the part is mounted.
And of course you can with an older PC or notebook and older software synonymous work, but if you ever touched Money - and that's not a short-term investment, so yes you want synonymous 2-3 years worry-free work - should be as little lazy compromises as possible entries.
Otherwise, buy cheap buy twice halt again.
Or you can be cheap transforms into a notebook purchased Grosch grave, where the bill s.Ende more money for retrofitting (more memory, external hard drive, External FireWire card, achja the hard drive was too small but again - oh, does the Battery no more) has spent, as if one gets something clever.
I want after I geschnuppert Intel C2D air hab, in no case again with his lame work processor.
eg DV Avi after WMV (1Mbit 640x480) umcodieren: 20 minutes render time for 30 minutes with the small film C2D (6300er) vs.. 3 hours render time on my old Athlon XP 3000 is already n ne bit different dimension.
From the comfort of recent editing programs apart - so if you are not super experienced in the whole history of DV editing is not real-time preview function halt schon was nice.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
That I can see but just before he gets a Celeron should be better but he said the low take-Book. For my claims, there was no effective alternative ...
17 "display, good computing and graphics performance, fast hard drive and at 3-4 hours with a battery will cost money, unfortunately, correct. If this is not available to draw any well-tips into the void.
I would place on s.seiner jedenfall prefer a topical and inexpensive notebook purchased as an obsolete and used for a similar price.
Antwort von Daigoro:
I would place on s.seiner jedenfall prefer a topical and inexpensive notebook purchased as an obsolete and used for a similar price. So that in any case.
The built-in FireWire (n is synonymous only 400 .. current 800? Always synonymous what that means:) is synonymous the only thing for the Life Books speaks. (And - for the office are quite good, as synonymous ranges of 1GHz Processor synonymous .. and not as processed as Uebel lowest current notebooks).
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
The new standard is faster. Bring us at Echtzeitcapturen absolutely nothing.
For processing, I have some views and notebooks was really disappointed how poorly the process is. On my new Acer is against everything in butter and I can even Windows XP with no problems using. Vista is the greatest lack of a notebook can have and what you should remove as quickly ;-)
Antwort von steveb:
Use caution when Purchase of laptops with Vista and the subsequent removal with Windows Xp.
Some Manufacturer make it a truly not easy. Especially if they do not own XP Drivers on your side to offer support. Since the XP installation already really be a difficult thing. Especially for inexperienced users.
It starts with the driver involvement of S-ATA HDs in Bootkonfig of XP.
My tip, if XP, then please consult a professional ...:-)
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hands off of Vista until at least SP 2 is out. Has been on all Windows operating systems proved :-)))
Unfortunately true with the notebooks, for some hardware, there are no XP drivers :-( more times because I would consider Apple's direction.
BG, Andreas
