Frage von megalutzi:
Hello,
I have a DV recorder SonyDHR-1000. Since I used it only occurs anden had a small problem, which I still do not have prevented, but a little it bothers me.
And although s.linken screen about 10 pixels only black / white, only then comes the color. Hab synonymous times an example image attached.
When one sees the TVs do not normally (overscan), but with flat screen monitors, etc. and synonymous with 16:9 devices may notice.
Had first thought, this is an effect of the 4:2:0 / 4:2:2 / 4:1:1 or similar to, but it should be synonymous with my XM2 occur. But it does not. Guess it is really s.Recorder, perhaps the track location?
Does anyone know ne?
Disturbing is synonymous to the black stripe s.rechten the screen, but that brings me even more clear. Probably, therefore, that the material has been similar, so FBAS.
Antwort von robbie:
Yes, really looks after track location ... I know this is not the recorder, so I do not know exactly. But I would at times simply a professional Sony - Handel go, who knows more about it then, and perhaps a small service can make ...
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
So the device was in service. Now I have the info:
This is not a faulty track position. The stop is at the DHR so
ie you can not change synonymous.
Now I would be interested if the other devices may make synonymous. From there it synonymous Panasonic DV recorder, of the JVC miniDV / S-VHS recorder.
Maybe someone is here so the answer.
Thank you.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
When JVC SR3 gibts sowas not.
Antwort von DerSchmidt:
at its DVCAM maz not synonymous. and if a jvc - maz rumsteht forever starts s.rosten ...
Antwort von Markus:
[black stripe s.rechten bild rand] If, therefore, probably, by analogy, that the material has been so FBAS. Hello Lutz,
does this effect together with the black edge on the left only for a Page FBAS analog playback on? If yes, could you an A / D converter and switching between the Picture and in full color via DV input recording? Or possibly only in Y / C and convert this signal anything?
Antwort von nico:
This is not a faulty track position. The stop is at the DHR so
ie you can not change synonymous. Hello Lutz,
has given you a Möchtegernfachman yes a properly thick aufgebunden Bears! I have two of these devices and
None indicates this error. Even with colleagues, the DHR 1000 VC, is something unknown.
I would recommend to you, which is part time at Cologne Sonyin through it.
Antwort von megalutzi:
@ Markus:
Such considerations, I had in the meantime synonymous. Document the test, the recorder as soon as I have back here.
@ nico:
The recorder was at AVC in Hamburg. The expert said she had several recorder, which all show the same effect and there would be nothing to be set.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
I would recommend to you, which is part time at Cologne Sonyin through it. Are you sure that you have someone there antriffst?
22.06.2007: "In the future, Berlin"
Sony of Germany are moving s.and participation s.der known IFA 2007
Antwort von nico:
Thanks for the hint - that I knew not.
Antwort von Markus:
@ Lutz: I had recently published a EV-S9000 at
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Disturbing is synonymous to the black stripe s.rechten the screen, but that brings me even more clear. Probably, therefore, that the material has been similar, so FBAS.
I can think of something because:
1) Do not just older recorder 702 horizontal pixels recorded, woruch s.rechten edge of the black bars made?
2) I remember s.einen Post - I think of Mark - that in the color correction of an analog signal with a TBC ( "red flags" removed) s.linken edge a black and white part is. When analog-rehearsed material, then it could be that at that time with a TBC you ...[/ color corrected code]
Antwort von megalutzi:
Do not older recorder only 702 horizontal pixels recorded, woruch s.rechten edge of the black bars made? This is probably due to the fact that the digital image with 720 sample line is longer (53.3 us) than the analog image line with 52us. The analog line has only 702 pixels. The DHR is already 720, the rest to stop analog line remains black.
But the S / W Strip times I go to the bottom. I hang my times Canopus ADVC 110 between. Maybe is the analog input of the DHR bit lost.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
This is probably due to the fact that the digital image with 720 sample line is longer (53.3 us) than the analog image line with 52us Well fine, but it goes to analog to DV material copied ..... it fits together. I am just annoyed that I am posting this because of the SW bar s.linken not find the edge. I still remember exactly. Someone has the VHS-standard color corrected with a TBC, with precisely the effect. There was even a picture is ..... I think it's just not ....
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
so small update dür interested:
I got my recorder and have a bit of testing:
The effect occurs when the analog inputs (no preference whether CVBS, S-video inputs rear or front inputs) can be used.
If I use the analog signal (synonymous here no preference whether CVBS or S-video) through my first AD converter (Canopus ADVC110 of) and send it via Firewire cable via the DV input of the recorder record the Picture is wonderful.
Seems so s.der internal AD conversion of the recorder to lie. Now I must stop changing external (makes a device more).
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Seems so s.der internal AD conversion of the recorder to lie. Now I must stop changing external (makes a device more). With all due respect for the pursuit of quality: If it's usually not visible in the image area, but it's wurst. If you disturb the stripes, paint it black ... I would therefore not so 'nen stress make.
Antwort von megalutzi:
True, in normal televisions, the strips in the overscan area.
But because today more and more flat screen TV, there might be visible there.
Where it could be synonymous is clearly noticeable on widescreen devices. If what I produce in 4:3 and there with black stripes on side out, then the SW-stripes in the visible range.
I could of course in the mail a black stripe over it lay entirely correct. But to do I can render everything again. Sometimes it's not necessary, because the live cut, so that the record was completely insufficient and will not be edited. And with longer maturities (large cassette), takes Render time then synonymous quite neatly.
Greeting
Lutz
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Where it could be synonymous is clearly noticeable on widescreen devices. If what I produce in 4:3 and there with black stripes on side out, then the SW-stripes in the visible range. The scaled to fit the picture - do not worry.
