Frage von TobyL:
hi her
I want to go to japan stay and take my XM1 PAL. Can I use cassettes where synonymous? actually, right? the data-stream is actually the same ...
someone with experience ntsc cassettes already done?
viele grüße,
Tobias
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... someone with experience ntsc cassettes already done? PAL and NTSC cameras use the same tapes, because there are no different tapes and no problems so synonymous.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Pianist:
... someone with experience ntsc cassettes already done?
PAL and NTSC cameras use the same tapes, because there are no different tapes and no problems so synonymous. It gets even a few minutes more up, because yes PAL has fewer pictures.
Matthias
Antwort von Bernd E.:
It gets even a few minutes more up ... How can that be if the tape but in both cases with the same speed of just 19mm per second (in SP) by the camcorder is running? Should it not synonymous with PAL and NTSC at the same time to end or where is my mistake?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Pianist:
It gets even a few minutes more up ...
How can that be if the tape but in both cases with the same speed of just 19mm per second (in SP) by the camcorder is running? Should it not synonymous with PAL and NTSC at the same time to end or where is my mistake? NTSC has 30 frames and PAL only 25th NTSC therefore need more space. The tape must be in NTSC so already run correspondingly faster. That was always so and yet I hardly think that when DV is different.
Matthias
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... tape for NTSC must therefore already be run faster ... That would be new to me, but I had no experience with NTSC cameras make ;-) Is it not possible that the additional s.Platz because of the five extra frames per second or less will be offset by the lower Resolutionbei NTSC?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Pianist:
Is it not possible that the additional s.Platz because of the five extra frames per second or less will be offset by the lower Resolutionbei NTSC? Mmmmhhh - so I can at least say that in the analog world, a Betacam SP tape, with a nominal length of 30 minutes, which always refers to NTSC, PAL 36 minutes recording. And in the digital world needs of the Avid DNxHD codec for NTSC 145 Mbit / s for PAL and only 120 Mbit / s. However, there is the same resolution.
Conclusion: I do not know.
Matthias
Antwort von mov:
have an NTSC camera, and use the normal tapes that here in Germany to buy there, and I have noticed no difference. Only in a PAL to NTSC Camera work is not recorded tapes (just the other way).
Antwort von norgold:
Hello,
to the velocities:
The tapes would have to run the same speed as for PAL or NTSC, the same digital data rate is used. PAL is a Resolutionvon with 720x576 pixels at 25 frames precisely defined. NTSC with 720x480 pixels at 29.97 fps. I calculate with 30 fps, I come to the same data:
- PAL: 720 x 576 x 25 = 10368000 pixels per second
- NTSC: 720 x 480 x 30 = 10368000 pixels per second
The band would have the same mean speed.
But NTSC is actually 29.97 fps just exactly! Consequently, the data rate to 1 / 1000 lower:
- At 29.97 NTSC: 720 x 480 x 29.97 = 10357632 pixels per second
Perhaps, therefore, the incompatibility between NTSC and PAL recorders? That the D / A converter in a PAL camcorder not with an NTSC DV stream for them, is understandable, but at least the digital transmission via FireWire but should work, assuming the band would be the same speed! If the NTSC tape to 1 / 1000 speed skating, but it would be a plausible explanation for the incompatibility, is not it?
Greeting
Alex
Antwort von norgold:
Additionally, PAL is 12 frames / s and 10 NTSC
Antwort von norgold:
Schmarn
PAL, they accounted for 12 full tracks per NTSC and 10
Antwort von PeterM:
The Datrenrate at DVgegal whether Pal or NTSC tapes is equal to (25MBit / s), which is why they synonymous equally long run. Of course, a band not ntsc recorded on a Palgerät (and vice versa) are played, because the codec is different. Interestingly, perhaps even in the context that the two formats, not only in the frame-rate image resolution but synonymous in Farbsampling differ, but in NTSC 4:1:1 and 4:2:0 for PAL is used.
That was leading in the analog age otherwise, as was then aufgrunf number of different image and Resolutiontasächlich the maturity untersschiedlich. eg Hi8 tapes.
Antwort von Markus:
We had schonmal:
NTSC DV tapes length> PAL DV tapes?
Antwort von Jan:
New cassette and then buy when you record?
Yes clear.
2. Japan NTSC recorded tapes play back with you?
- I hardly credible, I did have a test done with a Japanese NTSC with tape - only Sony (HC 90) was able to play, Canon, JVC and Panasonic have strikes - XM 1 was a test camera, unfortunately, not there.
3. Your tapes play back there?
- I think time just like point 2
VG
Jan
