Frage von Möhre:
Hi,
Forum Search notwithstanding, I feel better advice need of you.
Years ago, I have with my old BolexH16 gefilm, then "pause" and now wants me back a good professional + affordable + Camera growth.
Mainly I make recordings for projections / installations in exhibitions ( 'bin Picture. Artists), or possibly short film competitions.
A little verguckt I have in the DVX100 I, since I think the camera is really totally robust + professionally designed with many manual Beeinflussungsöglichkeiten (which somehow I looked).
But almost all the dealers that I asked said, "but why do you want to still in the old computer technology investing ?"...
For me, the 3000Eu much money and I had intended to part with 3-4 years to be happy ....
What say you? Is the Panasonic is definitely a discontinued model? Or how would you decide?
Many of the greetings
Carrot
Antwort von Babapapa:
Unfortunately, yes,
the trend has been to HDV canon
s.and with the HV20
on the market is
no longer reside
only favorable panasonics
or favorable gbrauchte semiprofcams
(which will always be offered more often due switched)
you can still recommend ...
So if sd / dv then
rather part of the money for the next round
the HDV cams save.
gruß cj
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) The camera is really totally robust + professionally designed with many manual Beeinflussungsöglichkeiten (which somehow I looked). (...) That's true. The synonymous offer little HDV cameras. The closest the Z1. The handling of the DVX is great, the pictures are synonymous okay. Question: image quality or handling?
Antwort von Babapapa:
Hi!
Mmh I have fears ... and then 2900Eu for a device that seemingly runs out ... naja.
What do you because of the FX1 Sonyim Verglaich (of HD aside) ... my strength, handling, light, value?
That would s.interessieren me because I only part of the familiar images.
Grüße Euch,
Carrot
Antwort von Udo Schröer:
Hello,
take advantage of the FX1. Great power images!
Review here!
http://www.sonydeutschland.de/odw/academy/broschueren/binary/HDRFX1_handout.pdf
Antwort von arnosworld:
Hello,
I want the FX1 is not bad here, which already makes great photos but the Anfassqualität is in contrast to a DVX100 but adventurous bad.
If you stop to s.was plans.
joe
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... and then 2900Eu for a device that seemingly runs out ... What do you because of the FX1 Sonyim Verglaich If the currency really a criterion for you, the FX1 is synonymous away, because they also expires. Nevertheless, one with two remaining years of fine work.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Möhre:
Mojn Mojn
So, with the stability I thought ... Consumer-directed?
Now again two questions:
Do you know a "good" alternative to the HD-FX1 to / under the 3000 Eu - limit?
Or ... perhaps concrete (because my heart still sticks s.der DVX) ...
What do you do with a DVX100BE than in - say - three years?
Still good + useful ... or electronic waste?
As I said ... I think because s.Ausstellungen or contests?
Is this then, as today, if someone still on its proven technology Super8 swears?
I'm already disturb the Sony advertising "... brings HDV into every living room"
Genuine ... the spoils to me the joy s.dem part! For 3000, - but you would like more!
What this means for you?
Best wishes!
Carrot
Antwort von Frank B.:
Hello,
Anfassqualität which is in contrast to a DVX100 but adventurous bad.
joe What? I should necessarily times a DVX 100 in the hand.
I had unfortunately not yet the pleasure. As for the FX 1 is concerned: I have in the amateur field has never seen something solid. I already had when you first try out the feeling that a pretty robust. Even the housing made of a magnesium-aluminum alloy. The drive seems to be no Billigmachwerk. Good drives from Panasonic was always sharp, but that is not that bad Sonyhier.
But it is so obvious to the subjective "Anfassqualität". Because I can "adventurous bad" simply do not confirm. A friend of me has SonyFX 7, which works, although it is certainly one of the best amateur camcorder on the market is clearly "spieliger" as the 1st FX
Frank
Antwort von arnosworld:
Mojn Mojn
So, with the stability I thought ... Consumer-directed?
Now again two questions:
Do you know a "good" alternative to the HD-FX1 to / under the 3000 Eu - limit?
Or ... perhaps concrete (because my heart still sticks s.der DVX)
What do you do with a DVX100BE than in - say - three years?
Still good + useful ... or electronic waste?
As I said ... I think because s.Ausstellungen or contests?
Is this then, as today, if someone still on its proven technology Super8 swears?
What this means for you?
Best wishes!
Carrot if it does not hurry,
I would wait and observe the second-hand market,
and with a good offer for the DVX100 (not ebay)
purchase.
I think the used prices are falling
as more and more hd to change!
I think the comparison with dv/hi8 limps slightly, since the sd / quality pal
The DVX100 is no worse than a HDV cam semiprof
and the application area (eg Internet) is no longer so much on tv
is limited. However, the price fall and used in 3 years
you will not get that much more (here is the comparative
dv/hi8 not so bad), because sd-tv pal disappear.
gruß cj
Antwort von arnosworld:
Mmh schonal thank you for your opinions!
In which time your service ion counts for then?
5 years ... 10 years?
So I do not know how a cam. after 5 years looks like ... certainly not synonymous in fresh drive, etc.?
Currently, I read again and again but that MPEG2 probably synonymous sometime optiiert be? Denach would be synonymous a Canon A1 in a few years vo 'old hit "... or?
Regards,
The Carrot
Antwort von Möhre:
Mmh schonal thank you for your opinions!
In which time your service ion counts for then?
5 years ... 10 years?
So I do not know how a cam. after 5 years looks like ... certainly not synonymous in fresh drive, etc.?
Currently, I read again and again but that MPEG2 probably synonymous sometime optiiert be? Denach would be synonymous a Canon A1 in a few years vo 'old hit "... or?
Regards,
The Carrot
Antwort von Debonnaire:
In these "HDV" Discussions will unfortunately always made the same mistake, so the wishful thinking "High Definition" can be conjured up:
DO NOT get your "High Definition" with this hobby HDV cameras! Your MPG gets an approximation with higher resolution camera in the recording, which is due to large volumes of data (real HD has a 5 times as large volumes of data such as DV) and the requirement that the existing DV tape with a maximum of 25 MB / s to be saved, by MPG in real time DV Compression-fit DOWN is expected.
In practice, this means the following:
- Beautiful, HD-like "statues" of unmoving objects. Once, for example, a fine, detailed Picture (trees in the wind ...) moves, the sch ** ss MPG to Compression and Fries' artifacts into the picture that there is a graust!
- For recording of fine, not exactly horizontal or vertical lines (Telefondrähte. ..) you will see stairs because of the formation MPGisierung.
- As with MPS Groups of Pictures (GOP) is working, it can be technically considered clean, not exactly cutting-building. In Editierprogramm must therefore from the full frame and the following frames of a GOP inter-/extrapolierten interim calculated images (invented?) In order to succeed in cutting frameakurates. This is about as good as the digital zoom of an image in Photoshop, where also non-existent pixels invented / need to be interpolated. As for the original recording was not there, the best may be synonymous program is not really truthful errechenfinden!
As long as I have no true HD workflow (record of real HD camera with a hard drive on to (P2-) memory sticks (like the Panasonic HVX200), finishing in true HD (which is an extremely high-performance computers, new, professional sündhaftteure recorders, etc. conditionally) and BluerayDVD or output to HD-DVD) can make for me HD is hardly an issue. Everything else is amateur Gelump!
And know your someone who is subject to a BluerayDVD / HDV-DVD can play? - Precisely!
DV is, except for television stations to digital and film, for quite a while a very solid enjoy life! Mark my words!
Antwort von HeikoS:
Herje, your logic is so synonymous PAL then no SD. Because PAL is characterized by its bandwidth limitations (Farbträger) and artifacts (cross-color, cross-luminance) of real SD synonymous a very beautiful piece away.
If you want to say that a consumer HD camera to the HD standard ausreizt not, then I write like this naturally. But the equation: "Everything the HD standard is not ausreizt, no HD" is a very strange logic. Especially as DV for you but then again SD is real.
And as an MPEG-encoding and-decoding functions, you should perhaps be synonymous again anlesen.
If new I-frames are created, then no pixels "hinzuerfunden" but simply calculated.
To put it quite briefly explain:
An I-frame saves the (lossy compressed) image information of this frame.
A B or P frame NOT just saves the changes to this picture, but stores the difference of the guessed Picture (by vector analysis of image content Gewone shift) and the actual picture. This difference is in the ideal case 0, when in fact each pixel has been correctly guessed. Of course, this is never the case.
This difference image is then treated just like an I-frame, so depending on the lossy compression saved. Because such a difference but much more images to be compressed, this explains the effectiveness of this coding method.
In these "HDV" Discussions will unfortunately always made the same mistake, so the wishful thinking "High Definition" can be conjured up:
DO NOT get your "High Definition" with this hobby HDV cameras! Your MPG gets an approximation with higher resolution camera in the recording, which is due to large volumes of data (real HD has a 5 times as large volumes of data such as DV) and the requirement that the existing DV tape with a maximum of 25 MB / s to be saved, by MPG in real time DV Compression-fit DOWN is expected.
In practice, this means the following:
- Beautiful, HD-like "statues" of unmoving objects. Once, for example, a fine, detailed Picture (trees in the wind ...) moves, the sch ** ss MPG to Compression and Fries' artifacts into the picture that there is a graust!
- For recording of fine, not exactly horizontal or vertical lines (Telefondrähte. ..) you will see stairs because of the formation MPGisierung.
- As with MPS Groups of Pictures (GOP) is working, it can be technically considered clean, not exactly cutting-building. In Editierprogramm must therefore from the full frame and the following frames of a GOP inter-/extrapolierten interim calculated images (invented?) In order to succeed in cutting frameakurates. This is about as good as the digital zoom of an image in Photoshop, where also non-existent pixels invented / need to be interpolated. As for the original recording was not there, the best may be synonymous program is not really truthful errechenfinden!
As long as I have no true HD workflow (record of real HD camera with a hard drive on to (P2-) memory sticks (like the Panasonic HVX200), finishing in true HD (which is an extremely high-performance computers, new, professional sündhaftteure recorders, etc. conditionally) and BluerayDVD or output to HD-DVD) can make for me HD is hardly an issue. Everything else is amateur Gelump!
And know your someone who is subject to a BluerayDVD / HDV-DVD can play? - Precisely!
DV is, except for television stations to digital and film, for quite a while a very solid enjoy life! Mark my words!
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Antwort von Möhre:
Yes and if I understand it correctly, but is in the PAL DXF100BE far forward.
By recording the 25P CCDs I have no "half" and would have to be more visible to the rest of Pal camcorders are ...
Also present but not yet solid alternative to HD?
What do you think?
And also ... With the MacBookPro, FinalCutExpress HD and 1GB Ram
... can I ever make sense intersect HD?
And Moch ... As I am projecting HD content? Who has such a beamer?
Antwort von HeikoS:
For a ConsumerCam has a good SD picture. But it irritates synonymous standard not enough!
25p you get a higher vertical resolution, but you lose considerable s.zeitlicher. Whether it is acceptable for you, you can easily answer yourself: Is the movie you prefer the front or rear?
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
For exhibitions and installations (and possibly short film competitions), the DVX100 is certainly still a good choice. Look in the "cameraman" because what is often used with warranty sold.
If there is a short film production, that fails to be something more ambitious, I would anyway, the system of my choice (or the cameraman of choice) for rent. And then, ideally synonymous in the best possible format. So actually everybody. And you with the Panasonic many areas, even dramatic short films that would have covered. How long you something of the solution did ... hmm ... definitely not 20-50 years, as with a Bolex:)
Remember that video cameras sometimes synonymous to service them.
And yet what to HDV. As long as the benefits that digital video offers synonymous uses (direct control s.Monitor) to see the light directly from the rotation to ensure that
no more correction is required, HDV is not sooo bad thing as it is presented here like .
Who with the attitude "Oh, that's all behind levels and Correct and composites and filters Other ..." s.sowas rangeht, which wasted valuable visual information. The only downside that I still see, but it always affects any video format, the transience and the incompatibilities.
Wait we are still a few years, more so for coming format. And come!
Antwort von Axel:
In the Rhineland, there is a saying: What's the one owl, the other is his nightingale
(Wat ing the sin Uhl, is the sin ongern nightingale). If hot, tolling for the dead SD puts some light into panic, as soon as possible to get rid of high-quality equipment. In order to know whether you can benefit from, you should ask yourself, how you stand with this statement:
"The resolution in my films for me is not a decisive criterion. Important to me, good work with the best equipment from the given Resolutionherauszuholen."
Nevertheless, the choice between the DVX and FX1 a hard fall when we both used to say 2000 ¬ cost.
At 3000, I would again ¬ 350 ¬ and it put me to buy the A1.
In all these comparisons is not about security for the future, but only for a reasonable price / performance ratio. 20 The AGM for 1000 is approximately ¬ incredibly good pictures, but first, can be None in love with a toy and, secondly, the device is not physically Outmoding his experience, because it is at medium load then is long over.
Antwort von PowerMac:
The Macbook goes very well for SD than HD synonymous average.
The so-called "Anfassqualität" of the FX1 is really not so great. There is the DVX better. And the DVX has more manual options, works well for me and stable value.
Antwort von famuz:
hallo möhre ..
I'll give a little synonymous mustard for my add.
first times: the comparative DVX 100 and FX 1 limps a little, because the HDV recording procedures currently probably more of a sham, as debonnair already mentioned. in short: big image by MPEG compression consumertauglich made. synonymous here I am (because multiple, synonymous in use had MultiCAM) heaviest on debonnaries page, HDV isses noch nicht.
And ne FX 1 / has n Z1 handling like a brick (who came to this design? A tube is no less handy ..). as SchulterCam almost useless, because you display the front of the pupil depends. At least it has a handle on the same integrated away ..* g * And if you look through this has nothing of a viewfinders (and brings in perilous front überzukippen. Echt times, you look through the viewfinder, you can see in profile like Pinocchio. )?
The DVX 100 in any case provides a clean picture, unless you s.ein few rules such as proper lighting, everything possible to keep manual etc.. I have several productions synonymous with the DVX 100 and rotated mine is a crisp SD still better than HDV slush. Schön is synonymous, the gamma curve s.der you can screw the image stabilizer and optical, digital is not. Moreover, I know a couple of camera men, currently in video production s.liebsten to 100 or DVX 100 JVC HD access.
I would buy the sweetie yet, as far as I know a good distributor, which is synonymous already been noted.
I had been synonymous with failures of the DVX 100, which were not really verifiable. And so small ausklappmoni n `kost 650 ¬ with a relaxed fit that hammse not all. Then it is known that the DVX NEN bug with the manual aperture has you type the wheel, it goes to hide out and easy-to-back - very unfunky middle of the take. And if you have the cam in the x-axis fast forward and backward kippst rattle them in the A and B make models.
For me the biggest shortcoming s.der DVX, as with most consumer-crates: the handling, as far too easy.
Hint s.Rande: A Vinten Pro-5 Tripod has a locking screw
the enormous (hand-like) and is super-grippy. Let the Cam on the Vinten Pro-5 head (from Tripod, of course * g *), you screw the swivel to the left of Page Vinten head and rotating it to you. Now the cam is loose 3kg heavier, you've got it s.der set screw in the right hand (y-axis), which locks the arm (x-) axis of your
shoulder and your left hand can be either stability or s.kameragriff but s.ausgeklappten cam-display bring.
probiers try. this brings in some circumstances s.anfang tennis elbow, but I've been so with a little exercise (especially "go without bounce is tricky but learnable) steadi-cam shots fabricates similar.
very-short-summary, came borrow! Buy in this segment is not a long-term investment with price increase. ask yourself what you need: or better: ich sags dir: you need ne semi-SD came, because that's enough for you and your current (financial and technical know-how) over horizon
fette threads like this one can read at night.
Meanwhile:
supplies you. borrow. practice. teste. turn. improved you.
good shot!
Antwort von dieter.adler:
Close to me - the DVX is in principle a great Camera (haptics and ergonomics distinguish Cam anyway of most consumer cameras - such as the DVX, I would not call because they are already in another class to play).
BUT:
The DVX does not 16:9, for what it makes me so unattractive as anything. In times when we barely 4:3 TVs can buy new and where now even my grandma a 16:9 tube called her own, I would not live in the 3k euros more for a 4:3 Cam on the table. Sure, you could create a Century optics 16:9 Lens before, but the price would then probably not as much of a current HD (V) Cam away.
As for synonymous SD, I would have no problem with the Cam (still lasts just until HD in the private sector has really enforced) - would Panasonic designed a DVX with 16:9 bring, that would be my Cam, but there is probably no more will come ( the DVX forum was suggested that no other Panasonic SD Camera to bring out more and is not synonymous planned revision of the DVX would be) I'll save the money and probably will in a few months take the HVX200.
Antwort von Frank B.:
Man, I still had not noticed that my FX 1 is so much worse than my previous DV cameras. So far, the picture always looked so good on my LCD television, while the DV images look quite washed out, synonymous of my old VX 1000 and the XM1.
And the many artifacts were synonymous to me so far have not noticed. Perhaps one only needs to look long enough, to one notices that the HDV format to DV format has been unsuccessful. Hm, somehow I think I was doing wrong.
Granted, in very fast movements affects the HDV Picture on the LCD monitor a bit washy. I was not noticed that, when the DV recordings should be much sharper.
Oh, and the guests who are with me the recordings from my last holiday and that was where most of the lower jaw to the chest before falling amazed, have perhaps only due to the shocks on the poor image quality made grotto.
Frank
Antwort von PowerMac:
Dear Frank,
would you read carefully and synonymous not only for your FX1 offended, then you understand that it is less about the picture, but rather on the processing and handling goes. What makes you a good picture, if the handling of the camera is not good? For consumer likes the handling supertoll be synonymous, but whoever comes of great cameras, are synonymous for the other things like haptics and ergonomics.
Antwort von dieter.adler:
well,
if you have not made the mistake would have sent you a FX1 to buy
but a vx2100 then you now have to be synonymous not complain!
gruß cj
Antwort von dieter.adler:
mine is a crisp SD still better than HDV slush. Powermac Hello,
it is obviously not just about the haptics (see above quote). These (haptics / Anfassqualität) can I FX1 Comparison - DVX 100 synonymous say nothing, because I, as I wrote up next, no chance for direct comparison had.
I can only eternal Genoels on the oh-so-bad picture quality in HDV no longer heard.
@ all
My experiences are different. Sure, I'm amateur and had only amateur cameras (which I incidentally synonymous the DVX 100 for lack of some professional features counting). HDV also that the quality is not possible, by default synonymous never exhaust is not an argument against the system. In 10-20 years, a Red Cam synonymous possibilities no longer exploited. HDV is an amateur format, that the amateur a better image quality than the DV format did. No more and no less.
And as Pinocchio (see also in famuz) provides everyone from a hand-held camera viewfinders with looks. I think the filmmakers with Canon A1, Panasonic DVX 100 / HVX 200, or how they all say, is through his camera is not necessarily beautiful;) If someone seeks, he should perhaps visit the beauty and not the electronics distributor. Sorry for the small unobjective, but what famuz writes, this is far from well.
Frank
Antwort von dieter.adler:
HDV is an amateur format, that the amateur a better image quality than the DV format did. Exactly. Many simply expect too much. Sure, professional SD and in any case, pro-HD is better than HDV. I think every amateur filmmaker, who uses HDV seriously, is that clear. Why does first anyway? Because he is no professional equipment, most can afford. And then he stop HDV instead of DV. Where is the problem? The fact that both the professional format is not good enough?
HDV is just for all amateur filmmakers who want affordable, high-resolution film, a great format. But ultimately everything is subjective.
I film in HDV synonymous.
Antwort von toffi211:
famuz and would not make the error
always a serious shoulder camera raufzupacken
sd for any holiday movies, it would
it is not so sure of the FX1 swarm.
gruß cj
ps. sorry, I could both kommentare not resist.
Antwort von toffi211:
then let it.
Antwort von toffi211:
HDV is an amateur format, that the amateur a better image quality than the DV format did.
Exactly. Many simply expect too much. Sure, professional SD and in any case, pro-HD is better than HDV. I think every amateur filmmaker, who uses HDV seriously, is that clear. Why does first anyway? Because he is no professional equipment, most can afford. And then he stop HDV instead of DV. Where is the problem? The fact that both the professional format is not good enough?
HDV is just for all amateur filmmakers who want affordable, high-resolution film, a great format. But ultimately everything is subjective.
I film in HDV synonymous. When you write what you have not yet HDV to DV in Comparison seen! HDV is just a super picture!
You like film? SUPER 8
Antwort von Udo Schröer:
well,
if you have not made the mistake would have sent you a FX1 to buy
but a vx2100 then you now have to be synonymous not complain!
gruß cj I have the same mistake, only the other way around!
Had a VX2100 and FX1, The Picture of FX 1 in 16:9 HDV and is WORLDS better!
Antwort von toffi211:
[quote = "Anonymous"]
HDV is an amateur format, that the amateur a better image quality than the DV format did. yes it does not, on the contrary.
[quote = "Anonymous"]
HDV is just for all amateur filmmakers who want affordable, high-resolution film, a great format.
The hook is:
HDV ist nicht hochauflösend, ist doch in diesem thread nun wirklich oft genug auseinandergenommen worden. Die "hohe" Resolutionkommt nur zu lasten des Bildinhaltes/Datenrate durch Interpolation/
GOP HDV ist nicht hochauflösend, ist doch in diesem thread nun wirklich oft genug auseinandergenommen worden. Die "hohe" Resolutionkommt nur zu lasten des Bildinhaltes/Datenrate durch Interpolation/
again for all interested to read:
SDDV
Antwort von jacobbbb:
[quote = "Anonymous"]
HDV is an amateur format, that the amateur a better image quality than the DV format did. yes it does not, on the contrary.
[quote = "Anonymous"]
HDV is just for all amateur filmmakers who want affordable, high-resolution film, a great format.
The hook is:
HDV ist nicht hochauflösend, ist doch in diesem thread nun wirklich oft genug auseinandergenommen worden. Die "hohe" Resolutionkommt nur zu lasten des Bildinhaltes/Datenrate durch Interpolation/
GOP HDV ist nicht hochauflösend, ist doch in diesem thread nun wirklich oft genug auseinandergenommen worden. Die "hohe" Resolutionkommt nur zu lasten des Bildinhaltes/Datenrate durch Interpolation/
again for all interested to read:
SDDV
Antwort von Udo Schröer:
[quote = "jacobbbb"] [quote = "Anonymous"]
HDV is an amateur format, that the amateur a better image quality than the DV format did. yes it does not, on the contrary.
HDV is just for all amateur filmmakers who want affordable, high-resolution film, a great format.
The hook is: HDV GOP established.
again for all interested to read:
SD
DV
Antwort von toffi211:
HDV is an amateur format, that the amateur a better image quality than the DV format did.
Exactly. Many simply expect too much. Sure, professional SD and in any case, pro-HD is better than HDV. I think every amateur filmmaker, who uses HDV seriously, is that clear. Why does first anyway? Because he is no professional equipment, most can afford. And then he stop HDV instead of DV. Where is the problem? The fact that both the professional format is not good enough?
HDV is just for all amateur filmmakers who want affordable, high-resolution film, a great format. But ultimately everything is subjective.
I film in HDV synonymous.
When you write what you have not yet HDV to DV in Comparison seen! HDV is just a super picture!
You like film? SUPER 8
?
Have you ever read what I wrote?
So, again for you: No, Super 8 is not for me. We could now rate games, because I think nothing of it, I quote myself: I film in HDV synonymous.
Specifically, I'm 1.5 months since the proud owner of a Canon XH A1. So I know definitely that an HDV picture looks great.
I shall myself be more specific:
If I had the choice between HDV and DV, HDV, then I would take.
If I had the choice between and Digibeta HDV, Digibeta, I would take.
If I had the choice between HDCAM and HDV, HDCAM, I would take.
Since I do not Digibeta and HDCAM can afford and most of the other amateurs synonymous not fall bullet 2 and 3 away. Finally, my personal, subjective opinion: HDV is the best thing an amateur can happen.
The professional but nothing stops them, just read the posts here, for example. of the pianist (Matthias).
Antwort von PowerMac:
Any guest here is an idiot! Sign up s.oder elect at least a name. This creates a total chaos s.Gästen.
Antwort von Udo Schröer:
Exactly! Was synonymous for jacobbbb gemünzt
Antwort von MÖHRE:
Hello together,
So as I do I get involved again but synonymous ...
First, I find it so great, that there is such a lively debate has come!
I think that a lot of good advice synonymous were there. I admit that I find critical positions always good!
So i will start provocatively ask what the many HD trailers here in the discussion so start with their shooting. Projecting, contests, archive or sell ... I would be interested in only once.
Do you have all the equipment in HD projection?
I'm of the photography. Even as we know, the same discussion ... And I would like to admit that I am in the field of photography appreciation for fine grain may already understand. But in the moving picture? Since I am ir not quite so sure ... Possibly: just matter of opinion ...
Generally synonymous here blows like the wind in the entire electronics industry is blowing. Numbers, Resolutions, abstract data s.denen, the so-called "consumer" (what an awful word!) Can hold.
Toll! The fact that people find here synonymous with a good-haptic devices, ergonomics, the value of a good story and the art of picture-making to appreciate. That is unfortunately not free to acquire.
I have synonymous viewed the Canon A1 and then asked me: wonderful thing ... but what do I say this in two years. Fly them to the garbage? No question that her successor is already with security around the house ready ... we only know it yet. :-)
Grüße Euch,
Carrot
Antwort von emu:
Hello,
just because the company vlt. a successor has been established (in recent times is actually surprisingly fast - the XM2 was years without successor s.Markt and now regularly come almost any new models), but this means not that you on the cam have to throw the garbage?
There will always be a successor to - if it was then, should you then do not buy.
In my opinion (at times back to the original question back) makes it at a time when the masses of HD displays (and those that are to be vorgaukeln ;-)) sold, little sense in an SD Camera to invest. Furthermore (synonymous here was already mentioned), offers no real DVX 16:9 (except for fake) - You should then ask for what you want to produce the material.
The DVX is still just as good pictures as 3 years ago, only now has the market changed somewhat.
I therefore believe that the DVX in 3 years rather electronic waste will be as one and A1 HDV provides security with a corresponding panel better than the SD of the DVX - HDV times of the typical problems and compression exception (who is a professional format wants to be synonymous as a professional price to pay).
Greeting
Jan
Antwort von Möhre:
Yes, like right!
Still a very specific question about 16:9 of DVX100BE ...
The camera offers as I understand it the following alternatives:
1. Letterbox ... here is just "material" cut off, little sense.
2. the "squeeze" technique ... and here a question: the Picture will be bruised and miss (presumably) in FinalCut (Express )...( etc.) are once again equalized stimmts ...? How is the quality of this loss? Can someone explain to me? Sounds so actually quite good ... but somewhere, I am unclear as what?
And one more thing ... Canon A1
What is at the Camera, the feel, the processing? I had no opportunity so far, the part is in the hands to hold ... Consumer moderate? Magnesium housing? the crunch of plastic? Solid? Leave me your critical opinion!
Many greetings,
Carrot
Antwort von Udo Schröer:
For the DVX100 however, there is a anamorphotic intent, therefore, the entire chip is used for the 16:9.
Antwort von Axel:
Toll! The fact that people find here synonymous with a good-haptic devices, ergonomics, the value of a good story and the art of picture-making to appreciate. That is unfortunately not free to acquire.
You've made the point!
I therefore believe that the DVX in 3 years rather waste electronics will be ...
We buy small advertising firms DV cameras, so DVDs to their customers produce. An example Renner is the XL-1, and which is the VW Scirocco in the cams. It is about touching and a sexy Optics and about a few thousand öre for the current device to save money. Even the VX1000, the VW Beetle (he runs and runs), reached Prices, which can be amazed.
Also, the analog photography is not dead, the market value of the equipment is in the basement, but how I befriended photographers always say: Everything is under ¬ 1000 in digital photography is rubbish. The quasi Daewoos.
Antwort von Möhre:
Ok!
And in terms of "touching" and "sexy Optics' ... what should I see the A1?
I'm still at the superior, because for almost ne DVX 2900 is already a sum of money. A Used to (I think) is not in question, as too risky ...
Regards,
Carrot
Antwort von Udo Schröer:
Ok!
And in terms of "touching" and "sexy Optics' ... what should I see the A1?
I'm still at the superior, because for almost ne DVX 2900 is already a sum of money. A Used to (I think) is not in question, as too risky ...
Regards,
Carrot
Want to shoot with the cam or rape?
Antwort von WoWu:
Hi!
No, I have cited here only Axel. It is simply the processing of the camera.
Is it not important to you? Certainly so!
And Nochwas ... Anamorphop an intent-to DXF ... get a part as synonymous Gerbraucht? Have you given a hint?
Antwort von Möhre:
Hi!
No, I have cited here only Axel. It is simply the processing of the camera.
Is it not important to you? Certainly so!
And Nochwas ... Anamorphop an intent-to DXF ... get a part as synonymous Gerbraucht? Have you given a hint?
Antwort von Axel:
And Nochwas ... Anamorphop an intent-to DXF ... get a part as synonymous Gerbraucht? Have you given a hint?
Even used as a 1000 ¬ adapter still very expensive, because the state must be used "like new", or else it brings nothing. At least here, the matter is not technically nonsensical, but unprofitable. Anyone who buys now provide a DVX, has decided to 4:3.
I'm still at the superior, because for almost ne DVX 2900 is already a sum of money. A Used to (I think) is not in question, as too risky ...
We were but agreed that there are reasons for a DVX to decide, and although, because they are HD because of the rampant hysteria as supposed "old ham" to get 2000 ¬. 3000 ¬ for a new DVX, which I could not understand.
On "used and risky": First, I test prior to the purchase operation, which is probably of itself Secondly, the risk is rather limited because of the higher rank and better processing.
