Frage von pingu2k:
Sorry guys, I have read through everything-else-about synonymous Lighting, habs synonymous tried without something to be sure, need a final confirmation:
I want in a film school (for me is the production of a reference film and for the school is a gift), the long side of the room is windows. Manual exposure, I will adjust to darkest places, then again to admit something. Swivel directly to the front window, I will not do.
This is now in comparison to the windows darker areas in the room (are not soooo dark) absaufen not, I will with 300 watt light.
Nehm I'm now on 5400-CAM-a K daylight filters (called thus, I filter the halogen light in the direction of daylight?)?
And when I (in a different situation) now and close the blinds with 2 or 3 lights light up, make me CAM to 3200 K and ready? Or CAM at 5400 K and daylight filters?
Sorry but even then in physics (which is 35 years ago) went with me to the color etc never really into the bulb.
Antwort von Natevi:
Genaus it is if you put the blinds closed at 3200 K (Tungsten) switch, you can open them, while filtering daylight and everything is good. Although I personally prefer to use second option.
Antwort von Markus:
Whenever a light source already exists, you have to be a uniform color ( "color") set. Otherwise, there are ugly mixed lighting situations.
If you already have natural daylight is present, then correct the artificial brightening accordingly so that it adapts to daylight. Do you have the blinds down, then it depends on what proportion of the remaining daylight lighting has s.der Total (must be tried if necessary).
If the recordings can be mixed afterwards, if necessary, would be an individual, manual white balance makes sense.
Antwort von beiti:
The problem is that the conversion filter about 2 stops of light to swallow. So the light output of a 300-W lamp is only 75 watts converted left. Too far to get aufhelltechnisch not if, on the other hereinströmt daylight.
A good passive brighteners (eg, crumpled aluminum foil on styrofoam plates, etc.) will take longer and may have a space problem in the classroom will be.
Antwort von pingu2k:
Ever really grateful for the answers.
Reminds me of what a still: Does you have a Tungsten filter practically only earlier in Super8, if we had no artificial light film and with normal movie filmed under artificial light?
Or plays today in the video still play a role?
Antwort von beiti:
Reminds me of what a still: Does you have a Tungsten filter practically only earlier in Super8, if we had no artificial light film and with normal movie filmed under artificial light?
Or plays today in the video still play a role? You can filter the front of the camera are screwed, with no filter (films), which is before the light come.
Color filter in front of the lens you need for video generally are not because there is the White Balance. What, if still needed before the filter are lights, different light sources to align.
Most often you need today, in fact, bluish conversion filter (CTB), Halogen light in order to convert daylight.
There are, however, synonymous daylight video lights (if synonymous, admittedly, not for the amateur-Budget), when mixed with halogen want, you need artificial light filter (CTO). Or you can box with the CTO film tape to the incoming daylight halogen lamps s.die align (at a window front but hardly feasible).
Antwort von Natevi:
This is the case, you have now the White Balance to 3200 K which corresponds to inserting a tungsten film and in the recruitment of a 5600K daylight film.
ultimately you can about the manual white balance actually under all conditions, it will be difficult but then, if thou hast changing zones, so if the daylight portion s.Fenster outweighs you and then into a lighter area with artificial pan. Then vote the shares and no more so that the color temperature.
There still remain the possibilities of color correction in the further course of treatment.
As I said, I personally work on this condition s.liebsten with daylight filters and how beiti writes with passive brighteners. The results are useful.
Antwort von pingu2k:
You can filter the front of the camera are screwed, with no filter (films), which is before the light come.
Most often you need today, in fact, bluish conversion filter (CTB), Halogen light in order to convert daylight.
There are, however, synonymous daylight video lights (if synonymous, admittedly, not for the amateur-Budget), when mixed with halogen want, you need artificial light filter (CTO). Or you can box with the CTO film tape to the incoming daylight halogen lamps s.die align (at a window front but hardly feasible). Yes, I went to my original question of filters, which come before the light.
Antwort von pingu2k:
Still another question:
For example shooting in a church, daylight comes up through the colored window below Paterre probably burn bulbs (do at times that the church is not halogen or neon is used).
5400 K-martial without lights but I am probably a slightly yellowish-red illumination, in which masses would be quite cozy. Now, if light bulbs are too much but, I put the CAM to 3200 K.?
or, alternatively, what better illumination but the pastor would not be pleased, illuminated-CAM at 5400 K with 1 or 2 lamps + blue filter on the lamp / s, ie blue filter so that the yellow / red-units be reduced?
Then I would have actually synonymous again a daylight filter, because the halogen lamps?
Antwort von Natevi:
On your last question is no reasonable answer, since the composition of light, ie, what in the spectral intensity are available only through a measurement spot can be identified and then the choice of color should be.
But precisely in these situations is the white balance the resources of choice.
It is indeed the existing color from the given light source and determines the Camera store. The fits are generally quite good.
Ultimately, you can really only try, which may be of each case vary.
Antwort von pingu2k:
isses right ... but that blue filter, the yellow / red-reduced shares?
Antwort von Natevi:
've Simply a filter of Daylight Sachtler on the blue sky and addressed by a Taschenspektroskop considered.
There is a marked reduction in the yellow area, synonymous with a share of the Orange and the Green reduced.
The blue area is unaffected.
But please, this was not an exact quantitative statement, but a purely qualitative perspective ;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
You need about 3000 watts, not 300th Of the 300 W in blue will remain nothing left. A small stage with HMI 2.5 KW should do it.
Antwort von dirk.thiele:
So yes, the sun shines (in Portuale) and the classroom is reasonably bright. 3000 watts? Well I will make sample recordings and say how it was.
Of course I want to illuminate well. Werds times with aluminum / polystyrene try. Or, with 600 watts, which was 2 lights.
Antwort von beiti:
Or, with 600 watts, which was 2 lights. Denk but in planning it, that the blue conversion filter about 75% of swallows.
Antwort von Natevi:
No, this much is not, have just just nachgemessen.
A filter of a light Sachtler swallows 2 / 3 f-stop.
The aperture value in the measurement of 8 dropped to 6.3.
If the 75% would swallow, would be far too hot, somewhere has the power but out.
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) Or with 600 watts, which was 2 lights. This brings nothing. You need a directed light with high luminous intensity. Set ten 100 W light bulbs on it somewhere. This brings nothing. Is there a 1 KW lamp, what it brings.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
LED par 6, the spotlight could help? Low power consumption, but the light color? (Would it make if to artificial light Manual adjustment is missing from the camera? Someone with experience in shooting LED " For photos, the reasonably good.
Generally, however, the mediocre blend of setting, and to adjust Camera (light meter - measured the brightest and darkest of the reserved area) but may be shaded or a recording?
The sterile illuminate but is somehow not as the bearer?
Antwort von dirk.thiele:
Can it be a shady or recording?
The sterile illuminate but is somehow not as the bearer? I (who has put up the thread) am very excited even now, as I have with Alu / Styro or maybe 600 watts (3x300've synonymous, but that as I drag everything cameraman) go.
Sure, I will not s.der Front Page of the window everything already lit and s.der other semi, but everything (almost) equally well lit. Should not stop hobby and bungling look.
Antwort von PowerMac:
I still laugh. You want to illuminate with 600 W ... In a room with daylight brings nothing. Nothing. From 30 KW come out clean. 600 W for brightening? That one does not.
Antwort von beiti:
I (who has put up the thread) am very excited even now, as I have with Alu / Styro or maybe 600 watts (3x300've synonymous, but that as I drag everything cameraman) go. The passive brightening has the great advantage that it is proportional to the natural light stays. So when the sun is stronger reinstrahlt, the brightening is synonymous stronger.
Antwort von Natevi:
So, I'm now a fan of measurements and was therefore now in an area with similar conditions measured, so the windows to the west, nine time clock, so no direct sunlight, cloudy,
Measuring in space incl indoor lighting 12 light bulbs with fluorescent lamps per 4 a 18 W total = 864 W.
S.einer light in the room relatively dark place around 350 lux
without daylight around 240 lux, daylight only about 100 lux
If hot, in this situation outweighs the share of artificial, that is changing course, if direct sunlight increases the proportion of daylight.
In this space, I have already had some s.Filmchen created, it provided a brightening with 3 x 800 W with Daylight filters extent that I have with Aperture 5.6 at 1 / 250 was able to film, although I had a little more daylight.
Trying to say that everything is very specifically on the city depends if you are not just an absolutely professional equipment with many n.Leistung available, of a true independent, and think that you are visiting after a few try to usable images can achieve.
Antwort von Elenex:
I still laugh. You want to illuminate with 600 W ... In a room with daylight brings nothing. Nothing. From 30 KW come out clean. 600 W for brightening? That one does not. Had not noticed that you already had laughed. Yes, perhaps 30 KW come clean, but the shine equally synonymous all corners of the room and rings under the eyes?
Antwort von PowerMac:
I do not know any more even illumination than diffuse light.
Antwort von Elenex:
Perhaps a tip: Window Picture yourself never have the exposure and auto work. When panning or recordings in the darker areas of the space they already regulates self after (is not particularly nice, but probably appropriate times).
A degree of whitening is usually synonymous with the windows of the opposite wall where. Anything else and particularly without very elaborate lighting effect totally unnatural and can be seen as typically "German" coverage on TV so often admired.
So do not be afraid of the dark areas, they are simply
Antwort von PowerMac:
There is no typical "German illumination"
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Your headlights will not see you if you of incoming sunlight anleuchten want. You have until the sunlight trying to control.
There are ND films, before the windows hang / stuck, thus you get the light levels down can (or in the case of the church just a conversion of color temperature from the light make - although I do not at 3200K, 4000K but the filter would). Only then will you be sensible with headlights work.
