Infoseite // Dissatisfied with my Canon MD101 - request for an alternative recommendation



Frage von MaP:


I've just before my last trip bought a Canon MD101. Sure, it was cheap and NEN film so that you can - but I'm upset a few points now very much:

* The integrated image stabilizer in my opinion, is scrap and will nix - the picture is not verwacklungsfrei to get when I get out of hand filme

* The image at twilight or darkness is synonymous grotte bad

* In a quiet environment the sound is bad, because the noise from the tape is heard

Is there a cam under 800 euros, which does not have these problems? If so, I would be willing to spend more money in the hands. Or are the differences in the higher price ranges (Panasonic GS320, etc.) are not so serious that the issue is worth more?

Thank you in advance for your answers :-)

Mp

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"MAP" wrote:
* The integrated image stabilizer in my opinion, is scrap and will nix - the picture is not verwacklungsfrei to get when I get out of hand filme


So an image Stabilization is not a 'Steadycam. The maximum of minimal filtered from trembling.
For quiet recordings: Tripod.
If Tripod set up does not work, at least one Schulterstuetze / Shoulder stand:
http://www.fotokoch.de/fotowelt/Cullmann_Schulterstativ_Travelpod_Titan_51116.shtml

Quote: * The image at twilight or darkness is synonymous grotte bad

That is when the small cameras nunmal so.
Correct, there's improvement, as far as I've seen only in well 4-digit range.

Quote: * In a quiet environment the sound is bad, because the noise from the tape is heard

External Micro. (or stop with a CameraLink Laufwerksgeraeuschen lower, but a little bit of what is in almost every thing, especially if the environment is very quiet)

The MD101 is when I see the right, really einstieg lowest class? (approx. 200 euros).
The 3CCD Panasonics (230 or 320), should in any case, better pictures, if you want to stay in DV.
For HD, the recommendation in the area occasionally: Canon HV20

And if you are lucky, says Jan synonymous nor what to know is always very good in the consumer area. :)

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Antwort von DeeZiD:

"Daigoro" wrote: So an image Stabilization is not a 'Steadycam. The maximum of minimal filtered from trembling.

Is safe for the electronic stabilizer of the MD101. The optical stabilizer of high Canons (HV20, HG10, etc.) takes on the other hand, has more visible if you are not just in the telecommunications sector is underway. Is of course still no substitute for Tripod or Steadycam.

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Antwort von MaP:

Thank you for the answers.

I had time a Hi8 Cam Of Canon with Optical Image Stabilization. That was really cool. If he was on, the picture was truly free of any tremor. The only "downside" was that when the camera pans slightly delayed mitging (hard to describe). Well, a real disadvantage for me that's not synonymous.
Pans were smoother somehow through this effect.

Did the not yet given up hope that such a system synonymous with today's DV Cams are.

Nochwas. If the computer image with a 3CCD lengths to better than my Canon MD101 or you can see the differences only with the microscope. Will halt avoid a lot of money I am now in the hand and take back a much better cam hab.

BTW: I read on the HV20, that despite the Picture opt. Image stability is still a trembling should be (because of the high resolution ???).

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Antwort von Markus73:

"MAP" wrote: Nochwas. If the computer image with a 3CCD lengths to better than my Canon MD101

At least for Panasonic devices, such as the GS230 and 320 a very clear yes. Colors and sharpness are much better here.

Gruß,
Markus

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"MAP" wrote: The only "downside" was that when the camera pans slightly delayed mitging
That speaks even for the stabilizer: in almost all the cameras are good instructions synonymous extra in it, you should be the stabilizer on the tripod and the pan off.
3CCD: in theory to a Einchipper are always superior, in practice, almost always. My VX1000 and the TRV140E is about gleichalt, but the color of performanceher are worlds between. I would now always Dreichipper draw, because the price difference is always next together (apart from the comfort saved 100 euros is not synonymous for years on a bad picture).
When HDV is it with the Picture trembling so far as it all camcorder more or less concerned. Here is synonymous somewhere a very good explanation for this effect ... search times, please ... in any case should be in even more of HDV Tripod work.
BG, Andreas

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