Frage von Der Die Das:
Hello,
I have received yesterday my A1 and the switch, I noticed immediately this whistling noise. I was wondering after some Abhorchen and I noticed that it is the drive. When the camera then shuts down and she sounds like a jet s.wie this one off (All these examples do not sound in the original volume imagine!).
On my old Panasonic was the LW sounds much less. Can anyone confirm in comparison with his old camera.
I hope it is not a defect.
Thank you
The The The
Antwort von the machine:
So my XH A1 is not louder than my old Cam (SonyDCR PC5E).
Antwort von AndyZZ:
I hope it is not a defect.
Thank you
The The The Hope that there is a defect! Then you can actually claim and the warranty claim!
If there is no defect, then each XH A1 so loud and so a case for a ton.
Antwort von Der Die Das:
According to is relative,
she is holding in any case louder than the FX1, and the surprise me just a bit.
Antwort von Axel:
According to is relative,
she is holding in any case louder than the FX1, and the surprise me just a bit. Other XH A1 owners with assessments? Had many interesting.
Antwort von Der Die Das:
Wow, I'm excited when I just touched the front Microphone did, I had to find that it has played and wobbles. A high on the Japanese as part of the One A has bolted.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
A high on the Japanese as part of the One A has bolted. The praise is entitled, because loose should be suspended a good Microphone yes be synonymous. Sonyz.B power. with the VX2100 is not different.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Axel:
Wow, I'm excited when I just touched the front Microphone did, I had to find that it has played and wobbles. A high on the Japanese as part of the One A has bolted. I suspect that it must be. Is in all men in the Henkel built Stereomics so.
Antwort von Der Die Das:
Hmmm, I've at times s.der FX1 Comparison meddled where everything sits firmly bomb.
Antwort von Axel:
Hmmm, I've at times s.der FX1 Comparison meddled where everything sits firmly bomb. Sounds as if you feel a Monday device to have. We wait, which other users / owners say.
Antwort von the machine:
Hmmm, I've at times s.der FX1 Comparison meddled where everything sits firmly bomb.
Sounds as if you feel a Monday device to have. We wait, which other users / owners say. The loose Micro is not extra! Had been synonymous in my mind that would be broken ... but it is!
And my A1 is not noticeably loud.
Antwort von Der Die Das:
Hab Canon is called the Micro belongs firmly. Will you now probably time to get service.
Antwort von the machine:
Hab Canon is called the Micro belongs firmly. Will you now probably time to get service. Interesante! In dvinfo.net in the forum say it all the loose one! All canon then probably a problem with the micro-tightening ...
Would be cool if you tell us so on the current haelen;)
Antwort von Der Die Das:
Ei ei ei, the wild out and hergewackle but seems normal. Beautiful is not it but still!
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost.php?p=625900&postcount=25
Antwort von the machine:
Hab Canon is called the Micro belongs firmly. Will you now probably time to get service. AHE does;) as the Canon is so uninformed or service you have the time just so I said ...?
Antwort von Der Die Das:
I do not know what was going on with the service, but the guy s.anderen end of the line is even said that he was once such a device should get to see whether this is normal.
And if you believe something is said you have only the right stuff to a given story is told.
Antwort von Jan:
So now I will not play on Canon herziehen the company to MiniDV models drive noise problem of their head drum or the bad & the shading Microphone - is nothing new.
VG
Jan
Antwort von marty_mc:
Again back to the drive noise: Jip, synonymous s.meiner Camera There is a fairly "high" noise that I did not know it yet. Stört but only if it is extremely quiet in the room.
Tonte I had not yet done.
Antwort von Supe:
Hello!
My cam of the variety was not a loose Micro still audible noise during operation. only when one hears a "Klock", but nothing in the run.
Supe
Antwort von vidello:
Hi,
I was synonymous with the A1 following findings: a conspicuously loud drive noise, which with the sounds of an XM2 or XL1 is not verlgeichen. That's why I wanted to actually send to the service, but I think that I can with the contributions here will save.
Furthermore: A very striking scanning aperture, for example, when the economical rearing under light conditions shows significant jumps. Has anyone similar experiences?
In addition to all the outstanding features such as Picture, Focus, Focus and image stability encounter these two points in professional applications at very negative.
Best Regards, Dirk
Antwort von Jan:
The aperture jumps can unfortunately synonymous s.einer Sonyzb see PD 170.
That's why I leave the Aperture synonymous gladly settle for automatic Lowlight and just worry about me shutter and gain, especially in durable trim adjusters. With Aperture, you can open the already preset.
It's now time in the present class is only for JVC DV 5000, Digibeta and Co better.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
The aperture jumps can unfortunately synonymous s.einer Sonyzb see PD 170. At least so the V1 (HDV) an advantage: Even more (and therefore finer) stops.
Antwort von weitwinkel:
as shown in this report
Antwort von Jan:
Yes, I find s.der FX 7 much better resolved, one can even in the menu of AE slow / medium / fast feinjustieren.
In all, the PD 170, unfortunately, but not perfect - but close ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
In all, the PD 170, unfortunately, but not perfect ... This can be seen in this price range synonymous not expect synonymous when most applications 4 n.nicht just as "cheap" would call. Even for the ten times the purchase price must always be compromises, as I have noticed. And I bet it looks a user with a camera for the 50-times the purchase price is still so, simply because perfection never in all the score can be achieved.
So we make the best out of what we have! I think that is synonymous a part of art.
Antwort von Alexander Tschuggmall:
@ Canon Service
Did the Canon service times, because I wanted to know about what you input Console with s.Laptop the signal of the XH A1 receives.
The lady did not even know what the XH A1 is! : (
Antwort von orange:
My new XH-A1 is synonymous this "jet" drive noise. I noticed it immediately when I had the camera turned on.
Antwort von Jan:
@ Canon Service
Did the Canon service times, because I wanted to know about what you input Console with s.Laptop the signal of the XH A1 receives.
The lady did not even know what the XH A1 is! : ( Or Firewire?
VG
Jan
Antwort von ruessel:
There are the XH A1 for different manufacturers of a mechanical suspension for microphones, this is below a "tube" which is exactly in the Canon holder fits. Today is my part of Rode come, if the look works really synonymous.
Most noise in my XH A1 on the camera body to .... (as with most other cameras synonymous).
Antwort von Herbert Eisner:
Hi,
First time: I'm new here. I think Slashcam super.
Since yesterday I am the proud owner of the XH A1. What the drive noise concerns: True, there is a whistling sound a little. But what the noise is concerned, was my XM2 louder.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Hab Canon is called the Micro belongs firmly. Will you now probably time to get service.
AHE does;) as the Canon is so uninformed or service you have the time just so I said ...? They are so uninformed ... If you are unlucky you'll be redirected to someone who has no clue. For specific questions just contact the online support, as you respond in the normal case, a well-informed technicians.
Was very surprised at last a detailed reply to all my questions answered.
Under normal circumstances people are able to only half of my questions. The remainder will be sung-and toneless ignored ...
Antwort von GuitarRy:
Cheers,
Your just makes me very sad. I was convinced to buy this camera. (!!!)
I myself am an owner of a FX1 and XL1S. Both are "Sogut as" dumb.
A pfeifft the Camera? Gaaanz amiss. Maybe since all their patients Tinitus ;-)?
regards
Garry
Antwort von Frank B.:
I've already filmed concerts because it was in the breaks between the pieces so quiet, you would have a flea can hear coughing. For these concerts, etc. is the Canon XH A1 is not suitable? As seen as the experiences of users from?
If they should be so loud that the people after the camera turned around, or take pleasure in the music would be affected, it would be useless for me. Not to speak of that which is behind the tape is heard (but as you can so in a certain frame with an external audio recording) can be anticipated.
Frank
Antwort von Markus:
When concerts are probably adequate, separate microphones that are used to close s.Ort of the event are available. Otherwise, we would have only a general atmosphere of the location of the camcorder.
In such a case, relative to potential equity as synonymous operating noise of the camcorder.
Antwort von ruessel:
The noise of the drive XH A1 is a number of parameters. Even different types of tapes with me to make loud noises differently.
The volume with a good external Micro is dependent of the chosen sensitivity in the camera menu. In "normal", it is comparable with the FX1.
However, I would like something in my Delicate Sound have (quietly goes into the post office always), then catch the problems.
see synonymous: http://www.fxsupport.de/23.html
21.06.2007 16:45 XH A1 External Microphone holder
Antwort von Frank B.:
When concerts are probably adequate, separate microphones that are used to close s.Ort of the event are available. Otherwise, we would have only a general atmosphere of the location of the camcorder.
In such a case, relative to potential equity as synonymous operating noise of the camcorder. Hi Mark, I mean something else. It is clear to me that the sound if possible (for me necessarily) external to be recorded. My question relates to the self-noise of the camcorder. Is this annoying to the listeners of a classical concert where the camera near the listener is? I speak of a distance of about 2-3 meters.
Eg I do not want to pipe in the ear, if I am a concert with quiet tones listen. Even during the breaks, I might not hear whistling or humming.
Frank
Antwort von l21f:
Hello
... is this "drive noise-hype" is not some exaggerated (not only in the xh a1)?
We have 2 st xh s.and it was not even the case that a noise on the strip was there (camera permitting) do not belong - either with us or any customer has anyone ever noticed the noise since not belong ... what you hear as all? even if I'm a ribbon in a room without noise vorcodiere I have nothing behind it - perhaps at full volume, its regulator nor a minimal self-noise of the quiet bandes - but what nix a mechanical Pfeiffer, rattle synonymous or what ever you have heard there may come close would. Maybe one or the other s.tinitus?
please, someone can send me a wav or mp3 link here inside a disk noise thus the times I can hear what you think and what you say? I would ever be interested ...
many talk about - but since there are certainly examples
danke gruss and rob
Antwort von Jan:
That is precisely the problem Rob - something which no user has replied - it shows everything already. Surely, 80% never mentioned the Canons in the hand held. I therefore synonymous my opinion only on older models of the Canon-related, but I have to give the drive noises are really only at very low O sound or full set to DB (DM XM 2) - Level I almost never 0 dB (depending on the camera differently) - maybe make some users.
I can at each camera will find any little things, especially if I'm the type Krümelkacker.
I know several friends synonymous with the shooting to earn their living, but very few - who can confirm identified Macken.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Axel:
Built Mic, remote source, hence the high level of manual: Sound unusable.
Standard built-in micro-micro-operator: still perceptible.
Standard micro in spider: Clean sound.
The camera body seems to be transferred.
And Korinthenkackerei is not. There are many situations where it clean sound in an unfavorable environment matters, and on its own. Never `NEN wedding film?
Antwort von l21f:
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Antwort von Markus:
Built Mic, remote source, hence the high level of manual: Sound unusable. That makes it so not synonymous. A built-in Microphone provides only one of the location of the Atmo camcorder, but never a good sound off of next. Since synonymous, it does not matter whether it is an A1 or any other camcorder.
Never `NEN wedding film? There has been a radio microphone s.der bride worth. This synonymous get a soft gehauchtes "Jaaaaahhhh clean with. ;-)
Antwort von Axel:
Standard built-in micro-micro-operator: still perceptible. 2) what is perceived? too high a level? drive noisy? Drive
at high noise levels. If the situation requires a weak signal capture
needs. Then one of these noises spoil the sound (see example below).
Built Mic, remote source, hence the high level of manual: Sound unusable.
That makes it so not synonymous. A built-in Microphone provides only one of the location of the Atmo camcorder, but never a good sound off of next. Since synonymous, it does not matter whether it is an A1 or any other camcorder. I have just written to the need for an external microphone to stress. From me comes the thread does not, but I can confirm that with the - otherwise excellent - Sennheiser ME 66
synonymous drive noises occur, namely, if it is not disconnected from the camera body is. Unlike the VX 2000 with the Sennheiser MKE 300 on the accessory shoe, where it was nothing to complain.
Never `NEN wedding film?
There has been a radio microphone s.der bride worth. This synonymous get a soft gehauchtes "Jaaaaahhhh clean with. ;-) Very interesting. Seems to me a bit impractical. As an individual film (a second man is in the budget is not in it) also a receiver next to the Camera on the (often folded) with tripod and altar between bride and groom to tow. Apart of the modern shoulder-free, narrow wedding dresses, the unobtrusive cabling impossible. But because the Jawort, the ring exchange and the "first" kiss anyway as close as possible must go, this is no problem.
Problems arise when the bride's father in the club hired spontaneously spends a toast, but s.anderen end of the hall talking. And there's nothing to be missed.
... None may be as an example here times online? I try with an Aiff snippets as attachment. This is ME with 66 in the microphone holder and automatic level.
Antwort von Markus:
[funk track brews - kamera] seems to me a bit impractical. So bad it's not. The bride is the beginning and once connected, the receiver is s.der Camera. Since there is no significant additional work necessary.
But: Do not forget, the station again after you. ;-)
Antwort von Erik:
Hello
I've accidentally read these posts and would like to briefly say something about.
Without someone to come too close, the problem is the A1, that this device will be sold economically. To access synonymous many amateurs then and then with right questions that a professional would never ask. It is holding in the nature of many people that quickly and error problems with the others to be sought.
Answers:
The original mic. at the Canon XH-A1 must be free (structure-borne sound).
Normally, but not the internal mic. used but on an oscillating mount bracket (eg Rode) and mounted an external Microphone used. Even better is the sound of course fishing.
As an external microphone, we need the Sennheiser ME series (64-67).
For animal recordings Sennheiser ME-62 with parabolic ball hopper (very good directivity).
Of course, the drive noise on certain highly sensitive microphones to perceive. We have very sensitive microphones set on a special cloth
the drive. Hardly visible and already is the Canon XH-A1 synonymous of the best microphones imperceptible.
Anything else relating to tape: The A1 is a professional device and should not be with cheap tapes fed. A Porsche does not tolerate synonymous without cheap oil.
We need the Panasonic AY-DVM63AMQ tapes and have never been any perceived interference image. And people should not constantly tapes of different manufacturers use it in a tape to stay. What is important is synonymous that when the camera is not used for longer, then that the tape from the device is removed.
Perhaps someone with this letter was to start, perhaps, but not synonymous. In any case, I would not answer questions next.
I have daily 3 Canon XH-A1 in use because the image quality and s.Tag in the night / sound quality / control and not least the price is excellent. This device is an absolute tip device and can be purchased calmed synonymous when one is ready times in a book according HIMSELF training.
Much greetings from Switzerland
Antwort von Kino:
For original equipment belonged synonymous my A1 a MKE300. Kameragenerierte noises were never recorded.
The next step I bought MKH 416, which I found by now symmetric signal routing in a position with the Micro when necessary s.die sound source closer to come. Forewarned (synonymous in this thread) I decoupled the micro camera in the first bracket by foam, now subdued by the holder MZW415 (<20EUR in the bay). Again, I can no camera noise on the tape noted.
For the recording of a choir / orchestra, I needed a second micro recently and bought a used ME 66th Of course, immediately tried s.der Camera, as the ME66 a slightly larger diameter than the 416, hence the spider is not usable. Attention, here's what's new head drum sounds in the Headphones! Mechanical transmission by poor decoupling of the micro-keeper? No, because the same sounds were synonymous, when I use the ME66 in hand, next to the bracket held. ME66 on the hot shoe held (at Axels Befestigungsort suspected spider) Sound off!
I suspect therefore that there is less on the mechanical decoupling of the microphone, as on the on the (frequency dependent) polar pattern of the microphone tuned, Befestigungsort tribunal. For me this means: 416 s.die Camera, 66 s.die Angel or in the hand.
@ Erik
Please just answer a question: What is it for a special cloth that your sets on the drive? The density / volume of the mass would have on the fabric of an old, washed socks, so the necessary acoustic insulation to allow it?
Merci villmool
Christoph
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Antwort von Erik:
Hello Christoph
By Rode SM5 (Suspension Shock Mount) with clamp adapter on the same drive for us with the ME-66 synonymous rather drive to perceive sounds.
Blame is not the Canon XH-A1. Synonymous I can hear my heartbeat when I Microphone aufpegle fully and completely believe s.meine chest. Who's fault now, my heart or the Microphone :-)
Of course nobody, you have the top individual devices optimally apply.
The ME-66 Microphone, we have a swing bracket Beyer Dynamics of A 19/25 on the "hot shoe". The ME series of Sennheiser are highly sensitive and film for our purposes perfectly suitable. The MKH-series has been optimized by the human ear. Synonymous You have an extremely low self noise, while the ME-Series is not on our hearing and vote is a more even distribution over the entire frequency range offers.
(I think this is the answer to your guess?)
Perhaps you are interested in this homepage: http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_field_recording.htm
The Geräuschdämpfungstuch we ourselves have produced and is maintained on the tape drive.
It is very small and unlikely to fall.
In one test, we noticed that the drives of our Canon equipment approximately 5.5 kHz -6 kHz generate (but softly and not louder than other drives. Quiet or loud, of course subjective, the one in our company feel some noise as loud while the others are the same noises as quiet or non-intrusive, etc.). But back relating to:
In our test swallowed very densely woven cotton fabric that frequency band s.bestens. Three were cotton fabric with high density and together we have synonymous with extremely sensitive microphones set the tape drive no longer sounds recorded.
You can do it yourself synonymous test in which you turn on your camera, one dressed Headphones and various chemical species directly onto the drive and keep it. The differences are astounding. The substance should be in any case a high density and with such a test should not the camera directly on a highly reflective surface is.
Sometimes we go fishing, but the sound or draw with him separately as the Fostex FR-2LE on (When we two are in use). Then there's anyway no more problems.
Regards
Erik
Antwort von Schlafsack:
A brief note on the contributions of the "Brautverkabeln":
It is recommended, not the bride, but the pastor / preacher / pastor with a radio link to provide, since then the whole sermon / speech with good sound gets. If you have a ball as Lavaliermikro, the gesäuselte "jaahh" be synonymous usable.
Another advantage: The Micro can be inconspicuous and hide no less important, the sender synonymous.
I've even tried: goes well.
Antwort von Markus:
So I would synonymous the crying baby back left with a micro phone which, because they enable a continuous and clean recording for subsequent Störgeräuschreduktion has. ;-)
