Frage von Kleinpetri:
Hi,
the birth of our son, I have a lot of searches and + Her outward for the first time a DV camcorder purchased (Pana GS500).
With the first results, I am thoroughly satisfied, the only point of criticism, however, are the strong feelings for my drive-recorded sounds. Admittedly, I lack any possibility of comparison, but I was not expecting so much. In addition, at the moment that I am quite obviously a lot of very very quiet scenes record, which is even more striking.
Overall, it seems to me the sound (ie the one which I actually accepted) but synonymous quite quiet to be - for example, the volume when watching on the television set are quite high - and then, the drive sounds pretty on.
Has someone similar - or perhaps just different experiences?
Many thanks for your support
and many greetings,
Small Petri
Antwort von tv-man_sh:
Overall, it seems to me the sound (ie the one which I actually accepted) but synonymous to be quite quiet It does not stop chapel in the background;)
I assume that you only use the small built-in mic. ?
From such a Microphone must not expect too much, even if there was only the recording of Atmo goes. At best, sound with an external mic. record. Camcorders expected external-yes .- In Mik have. As a type, but many tend to condenser microphones, with very quiet environment, the "room noise" strong emphasis.
As for the drive noise is concerned, can be made of this are difficult to judge. Is this because with the ear as "uncommon / unusual" or to perceive it only noticeable on a recording?
Antwort von voge42:
Thanks for the quick reply! :-)
It does not stop chapel in the background;) Sure, - agrees synonymous again - perhaps were / are synonymous my expectations too high - I can stop it difficult to assess.
I assume that you only use the small built-in mic. ? Yes.
From such a Microphone must not expect too much, even if there was only the recording of Atmo goes. At best, sound with an external mic. record. Camcorders expected external-yes .- In Mik have. As a type, but many tend to condenser microphones, with very quiet environment, the "room noise" strong emphasis.
There are of Panasonic still two (?) Matching external mics - which I find it quite expensive ... I wonder if it would solve the problem, or whether it sounds - because mechanically connected with the camcorder - the same record would be.
As for the drive noise is concerned, can be made of this are difficult to judge. Is this because with the ear as "uncommon / unusual" or to perceive it only noticeable on a recording? Definitely be recorded the same noises that you during the recording with the ear s.Gerät "can hear. _Während_ The recording come to me not really unusual aloud, but while playing they disturb me.
Many greetings,
Small Petri
Antwort von tv-man_sh:
There are of Panasonic still two (?) Matching external mics - which I find it quite expensive ... I wonder if it would solve the problem, or whether it sounds - because mechanically connected with the camcorder - the same record would be. I suspect the problem is due to the internal microphone is located very close s.Laufwerk and finally yes synonymous with fixed / s.Gehäuse camera is connected. What synonymous always a drive for producing sounds, gone the next depending Mik., The less it is considered to. I do not now how much you like of the envisaged Panasonic Miks. are. Comparison: For consumer purposes sufficient Sennheiser MKE-300 is approximately 130 EUR.
When operating such a Miks. on the hot shoe of the camera to watch, which makes it not for "long", since otherwise at WW-shots may be in the upper screen area to see.
Antwort von hm:
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There are of Panasonic still two (?) Matching external mics - which I find it quite expensive ... I wonder if it would solve the problem, or whether it sounds - because mechanically connected with the camcorder - the same record would be.
Good day,
I had my GS500 to the VW VMS2E purchased. Although it is on the hot shoe directly connected with the camcorder, but the front part of the Battery powered with a microphone can be moved and with a kind of rubber seal with the rigid part of the Mikes connected. Camcorders noises since I can practically no longer be identified.
Antwort von voge42:
Overall, it seems to me the sound (ie the one which I actually accepted) but synonymous quite quiet to be - for example, the volume when watching on the television set are quite high - and then, the drive sounds pretty on.
hmm,
video recordings for private, I have never been an external micro -
s.meiner PC100 needed.
can be found at the gs500 adjust the recording level?
gruß cj
Antwort von hm:
can be found at the gs500 adjust the recording level?
gruß cj Yes
Antwort von tv-man_sh:
Raise sound level (= Tonaussteuerung manual [if it is possible]), but will not solve the problem, because in raising the level to be synonymous perceived as interfering with increased noise. Moreover, there is a danger in the sudden volume change of the peak level device, which in digital recording should be simply avoided. The cleanest solution is and will remain, the sound with an external Microphone record synonymous when it is "only" to the atmosphere (atmospheric sound) goes.
Antwort von Kleinpetri:
There are of Panasonic still two (?) Matching external mics - which I find it quite expensive ... I wonder if it would solve the problem, or whether it sounds - because mechanically connected with the camcorder - the same record would be.
I suspect the problem is due to the internal microphone is located very close s.Laufwerk and finally yes synonymous with fixed / s.Gehäuse camera is connected. What synonymous always a drive for producing sounds, gone the next depending Mik., The less it is considered to. I do not now how much you like of the envisaged Panasonic Miks. are. Comparison: For consumer purposes sufficient Sennheiser MKE-300 is approximately 130 EUR. One (VW-VMS2E) costs also increased by the 130, - EUR, I find it quite ... happig, the other (VW VMH3E) is then again around 50, - EUR more expensive - and so much I had actually not want to spend again.
Thank you @ tv @ hm man_sh and for the tips and hints - I think that helps me just try it. I have now tested the VW dealer when VMS2E bought my confidence and will test it tomorrow - and then report back. ;-)
Even if I somehow "ugly" (annoying? * G *) believe that the little extra camcorder still a Microphone to use, I will probably just so friends. - For the calm, quiet interior shots ver "buzzing" to have, I would not synonymous. And outside, the effect w / more noise, perhaps not so much on. Unfortunately, we had only the best-Bah weather, so I no significant external recordings could make.
hmm,
video recordings for private, I have never been an external micro -
s.meiner PC100 needed.
can be found at the gs500 adjust the recording level?
gruß cj (...) will not solve the problem, because in raising the level to be synonymous perceived as interfering with increased noise. Moreover, there is a danger in the sudden volume change of the peak level device (...) I had the sound test times due to "manual", but the results were not in fact intoxicating, sometimes too quiet, sometimes too loud - and "my sounds" were synonymous nor there. :-(
So think positive: I am on the test with the external micro curious - just a shame that for now the money's gone Tripod ... :-)
Many greetings,
Small Petri
PS: In one of the HC96-thread here, I am more on the random noise test run of three MiniDV cassettes "gestolpert" and I had originally purchased the Fuji-TDK tapes, three tapes bought - maybe yes, the change was synonymous. ..?
Antwort von hobbycut:
Hmm, actually, it was previously Canon rather than known for the Panasonic drive noise was - times have changed?
My Panas had thus never been a problem.
Gruss, Hobbycut
Antwort von Markus:
I do not think that much has changed. You have to just "drive noise" in the search phrase to see how many users already noticed is unpleasant.
And always there are unrealistic expectations s.ein built-in Microphone and lack of knowledge about the audio recording in general. So begins each stop once in ...
Antwort von jotemwe:
Annoying drive noise. Habs unfortunately synonymous (JVC).
It can, however, in retrospect, at least partially removed. What is on this page: http://www.videoclub-ahrweiler.de/2cooltip.htm
under Noise / remove network humming. Is synonymous with drive noise.
Antwort von Kleinpetri:
Hi,
here the promised feedback: Operation successful!
With the VW VMS2E the noise almost completely disappeared. Only a slight high-frequency noise is still heard - but it is a whole class to become better!
The fact that this microcode own with its own power on / off switch, has of course advantages and disadvantages. The first ten minutes without sound are already "in the box" ... ;-)
Can someone tell me if the big brother of the microphones (ie VW VMH3E) only the active power on the accessory shoe covers and still on the external input connected Mic. be synonymous, or whether the alarm on the accessory shoe is transferred?
Many greetings,
Small Petri
Antwort von cutaway:
Hello,
I would help to control the sound Headphones s.den connect your camcorder. Do I always synonymous and have the best results.
If we sound good in the video wants to have, you must use attachments. And that cost money. Anders is not the point.
Regards
Cutaway
Hi,
here the promised feedback: Operation successful!
With the VW VMS2E the noise almost completely disappeared. Only a slight high-frequency noise is still heard - but it is a whole class to become better!
The fact that this microcode own with its own power on / off switch, has of course advantages and disadvantages. The first ten minutes without sound are already "in the box" ... ;-)
Can someone tell me if the big brother of the microphones (ie VW VMH3E) only the active power on the accessory shoe covers and still on the external input connected Mic. be synonymous, or whether the alarm on the accessory shoe is transferred?
Many greetings,
Small Petri
Antwort von Eva Maier:
The Panasonic Micro will get everything on the accessory shoe
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Antwort von Kleinpetri:
Hi,
First I must apologize for my prolonged silence apologize. Our offspring is somehow bad schlafraubend ... I did not know that you can be sooo tired! ;-)
... I would help to control the sound Headphones s.den connect your camcorder. Do I always synonymous and have the best results. Ironically, this is no longer the GS500. :-( The headphone port, which to my knowledge still exists in the GS400 to the GS500 is the victim of cutbacks.
If we sound good in the video wants to have, you must use attachments. And that cost money. Anders is not the point. Thanks for the tip. He fits so closely to my experiences and synonymous with the terms of Mark! :-)
All in all, I am with the results that I have with the external microphone, so very happy and will - make it from the hassle of synonymous and financially within the framework remains - in this variant is likely to stay.
The Panasonic Micro will get everything on the accessory shoe Thanks for the info. I consider whether this Microphone not even the better for us, - if I am synonymous with the sound quality of the "smaller" very happy with. That upset me, but the on / off switch and the cable for the external microphone input. - If the big Micro but everything about the accessory shoe covers, then I find that much more practicable. I know not (yet), how will the power consumption at the expense of increased battery life, but I prefer to buy another battery to do so. Or I see something wrong?
Many greetings,
Small Petri
Antwort von Markus:
I know not (yet), how will the power consumption at the expense of increased battery life, but I prefer to buy another battery to do so. A spare battery is never wrong. But because of the additional power with attached microphone you need not worry. It is so small that the lifetime difference probably does not even with a stopwatch in hand could be measured. ;-)
Antwort von Kleinpetri:
... But because of the additional power with attached microphone you need not worry. It is so small that the lifetime difference probably does not even with a stopwatch in hand could be measured. ;-) That sounds good but that - thanks for the info! :-)
So I have the "big" Micro ordered and waiting eagerly awaiting the delivery.
Many greetings,
Small Petri
Antwort von Marcel H. Parker:
I did not want to open up extra thread, because it is thematically but somehow fits here. I have ne liebäugle now with the VW VMS2E for my Pana 180 and 230th Hab irgendwie not said much about Mikofon found. Both cams have no manual audio control the sound. But has the VW VMS2E as an external mic or something then regulates the remains Cam car?
Antwort von Kleinpetri:
Hab irgendwie not said much about Mikofon found. Both cams have no manual audio control the sound. But has the VW VMS2E as an external mic or something then regulates the remains Cam car? Hi Marcel,
synonymous if my answer is very late in coming: not the VW VMS2E even bigger VW VMH3E have a manual Aussteuerungsmöglichkeit. It runs everything on the camera.
Many greetings,
Small Petri
Antwort von OlliCologne:
Hello I had the problem of noise qietschenden band synonymous with the GS-250.
An external Micro is no need for quiet recordings.
It is s.den bands. Some books are just too tightly wound or stored incorrectly. Solution is quite simple. Squeaking tapes once again and rewind. That's it and then rest in a carton.
